Clothing the rails on a bar box...help!

[End_Rail_Oneida]

I feel like an idiot for asking but I just recently put the cloth on my bar box table by myself. I was impressed with the job I did until I tried to put the cloth on the rails. Now I feel very very stupid...lol

Can someone help me? How do I cut the cloth so it will wrap around the rails?

Any suggestions would be wonderful!

It's on the bar box tables, and I have 2 more to go... It's not that I am cheap and can't go out and hire somebody, but I love what I am doing and want to learn...

Thanks in advance!

Justin
End Rail Billiards

 

[realkingcobra]

I feel like an idiot for asking but I just recently put the cloth on my bar box table by myself. I was impressed with the job I did until I tried to put the cloth on the rails. Now I feel very very stupid...lol

Can someone help me? How do I cut the cloth so it will wrap around the rails?

Any suggestions would be wonderful!

It's on the bar box tables, and I have 2 more to go... It's not that I am cheap and can't go out and hire somebody, but I love what I am doing and want to learn...

Thanks in advance!

Justin
End Rail Billiards

I replied to this post already once, don't know what happened to it...so, what area are you in, as in where are you located?

Glen

 

[realkingcobra]

I don't mean to sound facetious, but if you take a look at the views to your thread and subtract the posts, thats one of the reasons you haven't received a reply to help you. I know and understand that you like to recover your own pool tables, and I respect that, but please understand and respect my answer as well. Somewhere around you there is a billiards technician that didn't make a dime off of his learned trade because you wanted to do it on your own, in which case, my hats off to you but, I don't know of any billiards technician that's willing to just give up his hard learned trade secrets to help you out with your rails. This is kind of like...your project, your responsibility to learn how to do the work that you're doing, just as each and every one of us billiards technicians has had to go through to learn our trade, trial and error. I don't mean to offend you, and I certainly don't speak for all billiards technicians on AZ, but for the vast majority that I do know, the answer would be the same...sorry, I can't help you, I have bills to pay, so, in the words of a whore, I can't afford to give away what I do, but I will sell it. The answers to your questions will be out on DVDs soon enough to help you when you want to take on the project of recovering your pool tables again.

Glen

 

[End_Rail_Oneida]

I replied to this post already once, don't know what happened to it...so, what area are you in, as in where are you located?

Glen

You did respond to this in the room owners discussion forum where I originally posted it. You told me to post it in this forum because that's where you guys all hang out. So I took your advice and re-posted it,here. Then you bashed me up a little bit! I do understand and respect what you are saying. So, my apologies to those technicians with whom I offended.

 

[realkingcobra]

You did respond to this in the room owners discussion forum where I originally posted it. You told me to post it in this forum because that's where you guys all hang out. So I took your advice and re-posted it,here. Then you bashed me up a little bit! I do understand and respect what you are saying. So, my apologies to those technicians with whom I offended.

Now, explaining how to recover valley bar rails is not all that easy to someone learning how to do it unless you have some kind of a basic knowledge of recovering them. I asked you where you're located in the hopes that I might be able to find someone in your area that would be willing to stop in and see you, and maybe lend you a hand in your learning, or at the very least, if you're in my travels shortly...I'd be willing to stop in and work with you for just a bit. I still have no idea as to where you're located at...so could you help me with that please...so I can try and help you.

Glen

 

[End_Rail_Oneida]

Now, explaining how to recover valley bar rails is not all that easy to someone learning how to do it unless you have some kind of a basic knowledge of recovering them. I asked you where you're located in the hopes that I might be able to find someone in your area that would be willing to stop in and see you, and maybe lend you a hand in your learning, or at the very least, if you're in my travels shortly...I'd be willing to stop in and work with you for just a bit. I still have no idea as to where you're located at...so could you help me with that please...so I can try and help you.

Glen

Glen, I am quite far from ya...

I am in Upstate New York about 10 minutes from the Turning Stone Casino...

Thanks for your help so far. I do have a professional coming into work on my 9-footers this week. He will also do the rails for me on my bar boxes...

Thanks again,
Justin

 

[LCCS]

rails

pm sent sir

 

[Mr Penguin]

Try our video. It will pay for itself the first time. Step by step easy to follow. We cover in excess of 1000 sets of coin rails per year. The video is $35 with free shipping. You'll be glad you did.

Mr Penguin

visit us on the web at www.penguinamusement.com

 

[barefoot3zk5]

RKC , when you thinkin your new video will be available ? Wanting and willing to pay to see your glueing technique. You ever pass through NE Ms??Thanx, Howard

 

[Dartman]

RKC , when you thinkin your new video will be available ? Wanting and willing to pay to see your glueing technique. You ever pass through NE Ms??Thanx, Howard

We (and lotsa other folks) have been waiting on this for a longggg time.
I now have inside information that it will be available soon :killingme: :killingme:

Sorry, couldn't resist

 

[Mr Penguin]

The video you want is out and has been for quite some time. $35 includes free shipping. Here's how it's done with no folds, cuts or seams. The way Valley did it and the way we do it. Watch Rachel cover a set of 93's in 14 minutes start to finish.

www.penguinamusement.com

 

[LCCS]

interest

I think the table, probably got done. This is an old post. LOL AS far as the videos go.
Glen will be making several videos on a lot of different things, not just coin operated rails.

 

[realkingcobra]

The video you want is out and has been for quite some time. $35 includes free shipping. Here's how it's done with no folds, cuts or seams. The way Valley did it and the way we do it. Watch Rachel cover a set of 93's in 14 minutes start to finish.

www.penguinamusement.com

Stapling bar table rails from end to end is so old school, and way to many staples to remove the next time the cushions are replaced. My way only involves at the most 18 staples on an end rail. Folds in the side pockets are better than no folds, as the no fold method puts to much pressure on the point of the cushion which causes the point of the cushion to wear through the cloth, and unless you're installing Mecury Ultra, cloth like Simonis with no folds in the side pockets causes a rounding(snooker) effect to take place in the side pockets.

Glen

 

[Mr Penguin]

So who would staple end to end? You dont seriously put folds on coin rails do you?

 

[realkingcobra]

So who would staple end to end? You dont seriously put folds on coin rails do you?

Do you recover feather stripped rails and NOT put folds in the side pockets? Fred, do you think folds in the side pockets are a BAD thing, or sign of shabby work?

Glen

 

[realkingcobra]

So who would staple end to end? You dont seriously put folds on coin rails do you?

If you read a little further back on AZ, you'll see that mechanic's have already discussed the "fold or not to fold" and you'll see that the majority of mechanics out here do NOT put folds in the side pockets of bar table rails because for the most part, we don't care for how it makes the pocket turn out, or the fact that it causes the point of the cushion to wear through the cloth. What are the benefits of NOT having a fold in the side pockets?

Glen

 

[LCCS]

folds

I will agree with you Glen, but i will also say that alot of mechanics do not know how to do rails with out the folds. We use alot of Mercury Ultra and we do not fold the side pockets.
Ron

 

[realkingcobra]

I will agree with you Glen, but i will also say that alot of mechanics do not know how to do rails with out the folds. We use alot of Mercury Ultra and we do not fold the side pockets.
Ron

That's because Mercury Ultra is like a pair of pantyhose, it'll stretch around anything, no matter how much you stuff into them...:rotflmao1:

Glen

 

[ChrisShanklin]

I am horrible at not having folds on the side rail, everyone here has validated my issue now. So now I have a reason, plus I think everyone is right.

 

[realkingcobra]

I am horrible at not having folds on the side rail, everyone here has validated my issue now. So now I have a reason, plus I think everyone is right.

Right about what Chris, to fold or not to fold....that IS the question..LMAO...there is no reason to not have to fold, nor is there a reason to fold...it's a choice, and I choose not to do the no fold method, because I just don't care for the finished product though I can recover the cushions without folds...LOL

Glen