Collection/Counterfiet

Rak9up

Rak9up

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Do many cuemakers use any feature or multiple features that is not known to the public.
Like marks or signatures under the wrap, a notch in a joint pin thread. Anything that would show it has to be a cue made by you.
To help
A. prove its authentic if/when it becomes collectable
B. find out if someone else is counterfieting your brand of cue
C. If it is a cue out of the norm for your normal constuction they would still know it was made by you.

I would think in todays market you would need several features to protect yourself
 
Many CM's sign their cues. While it is easily reproducible, so are the other things you mentioned. (Unless they keep it a secret)
 
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Rak9up said:
Do many cuemakers use any feature or multiple features that is not known to the public.
Like marks or signatures under the wrap, a notch in a joint pin thread. Anything that would show it has to be a cue made by you.
To help
A. prove its authentic if/when it becomes collectable
B. find out if someone else is counterfieting your brand of cue
C. If it is a cue out of the norm for your normal constuction they would still know it was made by you.

I would think in todays market you would need several features to protect yourself
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I see your point but your question is very broad. It would really depend upon who the cue maker is, and how high end their cues are. To my limited knowledge outside of the signature or logo on the cues butt cap there are no secret marks.
 
The answer is yes and I've done it to every one of my cues since I started. I don't think you will get anyone to admit what they do, that would defeat the purpose.
 
DoubleD, I guess I should have explained a little bit better. I've done a few things the same way since I started. Not to protect my cues from being copied, but just because that's the tools that I had to do the job. I would think that only a handful of the elite cue makers need to worry about a cue of theirs being copied and at that point most serious collectors would have it verified prior to purchasing the cue.
 
Hi,

A lot of cue makers sign there cues. This is a great identifier but can be problematic if the cue is refinished.

In my way of thinking, a inlayed or engraved Marker's Mark is the best way to go just because it is permanent. Not to mention I personally have a sucko signature penmanship. :help:

JMO,

Rick
 
I can think of one CM who signs his cues in "invisible" ink that shows up under black light.

Gary
 
I know that Keith Kustoms does bunch of stuff different than most cue makers. Bender and Southwest engrave/laser etch (???) their pins. plus the construction should be similar with there other stuff. I don't think counter-fitting is a huge problem in the cue world, some one correct me if I'm wrong.

best,

Justin
 
antiques like fiestaware pottery or Roseville was basically cheap stuff when it originally came out. Nobody ever imagined it would become collectable... so many items were broken years later it was so hard to find complete sets then it became very collectable.
I think cues will be much the same in the future you never know what will brand will be "hot" and highly collectible years from now.


Thanks for the inputs....wasn't prying for secrets just curious if anyone was looking down the line

Plus for me personally I would think with countries like china that can copy almost anything putting secret marks only protects the cuemaker..any counterfiet cue sold is one less cue you sold, and also the consumer is protected knowing what he has is real if he so chooses to resale the item.
 
I have seen signature under wrap as an example, but I don't know if it was done for protection.
 
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