Color Of Money Vs The Hustler
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The Hustler is a great movie by any standard...
I would rate it as a Top 20 American movie ever made.
The Color of Money is a good movie, but probably not one of Martin Scorcesee's better movies. It has it's ups and downs.
As for the pool scenes I would say they are about a toss up.
And the appearance of Keith McCready in CoM is a definite bead on it's side of the ledger. He steals the movie in every scene he is in.
I would rate it as a Top 20 American movie ever made.
The Color of Money is a good movie, but probably not one of Martin Scorcesee's better movies. It has it's ups and downs.
As for the pool scenes I would say they are about a toss up.
And the appearance of Keith McCready in CoM is a definite bead on it's side of the ledger. He steals the movie in every scene he is in.
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Willie
The great thing about the Hustler to me is even today the amounts that Fats and Fast Eddie were playing for are still a good bit of money today and that makes it seem more realistic, especially knowing people that play for those amounts. JMO.
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Honestly, the two movies together are amazing. A lot of movies come out with a sequal a couple years later, but The Color of Money really shows the road Fast Eddie took after playing fats. I think the two together are great flicks and make a great story.
All of TCoM hate is stupid. First off, you cant hate Tom Cruise because of his crazy ass religous beliefs. And its not as unrealistic as you say. The barender that says "wanna go for $1000"....hes not running a pool room....hes tending a bar...which happends to have a table. I would say the Color of Money and the Hustler were both equally realistic and equally unrealistic.
I for one voted for the Color of Money simply because the hustler was a love story with some pool in it, the Color of Money was a pool story with some love in it.
All of TCoM hate is stupid. First off, you cant hate Tom Cruise because of his crazy ass religous beliefs. And its not as unrealistic as you say. The barender that says "wanna go for $1000"....hes not running a pool room....hes tending a bar...which happends to have a table. I would say the Color of Money and the Hustler were both equally realistic and equally unrealistic.
I for one voted for the Color of Money simply because the hustler was a love story with some pool in it, the Color of Money was a pool story with some love in it.
The Hustler was my pick.
The Color of Money was a fun film to watch, but not a classic
I think Tom Cruise is a good actor, my favorite Cruise performance: A Few Good Men (with Jack Nicholson)
Also, I liked Forest Whitaker's performance in COM (he hustled Newman in one of the scenes)
Also, I would definitely say Paul Newman ranks right there with George C. Scott in acting ability
The Color of Money was a fun film to watch, but not a classic
I think Tom Cruise is a good actor, my favorite Cruise performance: A Few Good Men (with Jack Nicholson)
Also, I liked Forest Whitaker's performance in COM (he hustled Newman in one of the scenes)
Also, I would definitely say Paul Newman ranks right there with George C. Scott in acting ability
punter said:
Amos said, "Do you think I need to lose weight?"
Let me walk you down memory lane, here's something to reminisce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBvyB2dTnlQ
other than the scenes Keith was in they can keep cruise's know it all attitude in every movie he makes, he has ragening case of short mans disease, the more of keith in theat movie the better it would have been, also the line"do you think i should lose some weight?" was great, I used that line a few times it really pisse$ people off. I used it on Tommy To Good in Stocton, he went on tilt and I busted him-he is easy to bust, he never had much $$$.
but
the hustler is 10X better of a movie,
the real question is why hansent been a pool movie simce-junkies aint a movie, so it dosent count,
but
the hustler is 10X better of a movie,
the real question is why hansent been a pool movie simce-junkies aint a movie, so it dosent count,
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The Hustler by a wide margin
Of course I voted for The Hustler. After all, I'm 65 years old and have been around pool since 1960. I'm guess that among pool people 60 years and older, The Hustler would out rate Color of Money by about 10 to 1. And if you were to ask 50 professional movie critics to rate the two movies, I doubt if a single one of them would rate Color of Money higher.
As for Cruise, I think he has developed some decent acting skills, though these are not shown in every one of his movies. I believe he gained a lot from being in films like Rainman where he was paired with a terrific actor. I had the priviledge of watch some of the shooting of Rainman and noticed that on occasion Cruise would seek advice from Hoffman about how to play a scene.
Of course I voted for The Hustler. After all, I'm 65 years old and have been around pool since 1960. I'm guess that among pool people 60 years and older, The Hustler would out rate Color of Money by about 10 to 1. And if you were to ask 50 professional movie critics to rate the two movies, I doubt if a single one of them would rate Color of Money higher.
As for Cruise, I think he has developed some decent acting skills, though these are not shown in every one of his movies. I believe he gained a lot from being in films like Rainman where he was paired with a terrific actor. I had the priviledge of watch some of the shooting of Rainman and noticed that on occasion Cruise would seek advice from Hoffman about how to play a scene.
The question should be " What is your second best pool movie after The Hustler?
I have a hard time relating to some scenes in the COM. Especially the one where Vinny is is raking in the dough and is dancing while twirling his cue. I don't think I would have gotten out of there in one piece.
I have a hard time relating to some scenes in the COM. Especially the one where Vinny is is raking in the dough and is dancing while twirling his cue. I don't think I would have gotten out of there in one piece.
They're hard to compare for me. I guess I like The Hustler more but the way the actors used to act back then is kind of tough to watch, imo. Like, everything was so dramatized. I think modern acting is a little more realistic in terms of how people actually converse with one another and, as a result, I would typically choose a more recent movie over one from the '60's and earlier. In this particular case, however, I think I like The Hustler more.
dabarbr said:
The COM was written by two guys (Scorcese and Richard Price) who knew little about Pool, other than to be observers at a couple of tournaments. They relied a lot on Newman to give them guidance in shooting the scenes, mainly because it was attempting to be an updated remake of The Hustler.
The Hustler was taken almost directly from the book written by Walter Tevis, who followed Pool and its players all over Kentucky and Ohio, watching them in action and listening to their stories. His biggest influence was Eddie Taylor, who he watched play in Louisville. If Fats was patterned on anyone, it was more Taylor, a robust well dressed Southern gentleman, than anyone else. Taylor was a legend in the South at that time. For good reason I might add.
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The Hustler was just plain good. Newman was great, Gleason was great and George C. Scott was the stone cold nuts. The best line in that movie is at the end when Eddie beats Fats and Bert goes " where do you think you're going... Eddie.... you owe me MONEY". The first time you see that movie you're like "Oh shit he's gonna kill Eddie"