Complaint Filed?
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Since his headquarters is in Chicago....the Illinois AG's Office would be the first contact point, along with those players seeking monies filing with their own prospective states' AG offices.
They'll need to rattle as many cages as they possibly can...because only the squeaky wheel will get the grease!
Lisa
They'll need to rattle as many cages as they possibly can...because only the squeaky wheel will get the grease!
Lisa
jjinfla said:
They could also maybe possibly contact the AG in Nevada and the District Attorney for the county that Reno is in. Or maybe even contact the Nevada State Gaming Commission to see if there is anything they can do to help. Seeing as it was a type of compitition..Somebody has to help these players somehow... Gotta be a way......mike
Here Come De Judge..Here Come De Judge
Judge Judy ? I mean, I know that she has a $5,000 limit, but that could pay 'someone'........ (Bernie ?)
Doug
Judge: Have you ever been up before me.
A.) I don't know, what time do you get up ?
Judge: Order in the court, order in the court.
A.) I'd like a large popcorn and a beer
Judge: I'm sentencing you to 99 years.
A.) Well, that's life.
Judge Judy ? I mean, I know that she has a $5,000 limit, but that could pay 'someone'........ (Bernie ?)
Doug
Judge: Have you ever been up before me.
A.) I don't know, what time do you get up ?
Judge: Order in the court, order in the court.
A.) I'd like a large popcorn and a beer
Judge: I'm sentencing you to 99 years.
A.) Well, that's life.
cueball1950 said:
The sad reality may be they won't care. It is probably civil anyway and they won't get involved. In the grand scheme of things it is small potatoes.
Yesterday
http://www.local10.com/news/10177559/detail.html
Millions of dollars and they file bankruptcy. They deal with this stuff everyday in every city in the US, the IPT will be just one more file on someones desk. KT I am sure isn't worried in the least what players do or try to do, he will just go on his merry way.
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Hey guys,
Crimes have been committed here. MANY!!! Go after these clowns!
Crimes have been committed here. MANY!!! Go after these clowns!
jjinfla...<<Has any of the 200 IPT players even bothered to go to the police, or call up the States Attorney's office, and file a complaint?>>
Trust me on this. Until serious PROOF is obtained, this is primarily a CIVIL contract matter, not a criminal matter. If any criminal conduct appears to be established during any civil suit then the plaintiff's attorney would be the appropriate party to notifiy the state and/or federal authorities.
<<If no one files a complaint then there is no crime. There has to be a victim.>>
That is incorrect. The authorities can and often to file actions on their own initiative.
Finally, if you accuse someone of criminal conduct and then cannot prove that it is true, you can be found guilty of defamation and the offended party would not even have to prove damages. Damages would be presumed.
Not a criticism at all. KT disgusts me....Just advice to be cautious.
Finally, as I remarked in another post, NYC Dude has informed us that he has started the legal ball rolling and it seems to me that he should be taken at his word.
Regards,
Jim
Trust me on this. Until serious PROOF is obtained, this is primarily a CIVIL contract matter, not a criminal matter. If any criminal conduct appears to be established during any civil suit then the plaintiff's attorney would be the appropriate party to notifiy the state and/or federal authorities.
<<If no one files a complaint then there is no crime. There has to be a victim.>>
That is incorrect. The authorities can and often to file actions on their own initiative.
Finally, if you accuse someone of criminal conduct and then cannot prove that it is true, you can be found guilty of defamation and the offended party would not even have to prove damages. Damages would be presumed.
Not a criticism at all. KT disgusts me....Just advice to be cautious.
Finally, as I remarked in another post, NYC Dude has informed us that he has started the legal ball rolling and it seems to me that he should be taken at his word.
Regards,
Jim
jay helfert said:
Lets start with FRAUD! Using the mails to defraud is Federal. Accepting credit cards across state lines in the continuation of a fraud. They have been waiting to nail this guy. Now they can.
FILE! Call the Feds, the D.A., whoever. Wait no longer. He and Dumbo deserve to be bunkmates in the slammer for this one.
macguy said:
OH HOW TRUE!! In the grand scope of life, this is not even a hiccup. Look how long it took authorities to go after Ken Lay and Enron...And that was BILLIONS.
And we are know that halloburton in an indicment waiting to happen. Can you see the supreme court, of any state, hearing a suit brought by "pool players"?
Just a thought here.
If the whole IPT thing, was just a failed business plan, and not a direct intent to defraud, and if the players now file suit, aren't they scaring off any future investors to take a chance on pool? "Fail and we will sue you". Who would invest with that caveat?
If the whole IPT thing, was just a failed business plan, and not a direct intent to defraud, and if the players now file suit, aren't they scaring off any future investors to take a chance on pool? "Fail and we will sue you". Who would invest with that caveat?
Fleece3 said:
Someone has pulled the fleece over your eyes.
Fleece3 said:
No one who probably shouldn't be scared off in the first place. These tournaments should not be a gambling game beyond the competition it's self. The players need to have some kind of assurance they will be paid as should the venue or any other persons involved in the production. Thats not too much to ask. Promoters should be accountable prier to the tournament, I.E. prize money in escrow. Everything about the IPT from the start was a joke, the players operated on a wing and a prayer. You know the first KOTH didn't have to happen. They didn't sign the deal with the venue till just days before the start of the tournament. I know that for a fact.
The KOTH could have been canceled on a moments notice. I think they were still considering whether or not to go forward with the tournament as players who were told they had to be there were buying their plane tickets. This thing operated at the wimm of KT and could have folded at any time. It could just as easily been the KOTH that didn't get paid if he decided to pull out right out of the box. I would say, any money anybody got from this guy they were lucky to get, it was just a matter of time till the s&it hit the fan dealing with this wac job.
Did you ever read this psychiatric thing from the court, it is interesting reading.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0826051trudeau4.html
