Confidence in the IPT

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centered5050

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Personally, I have complete confidence in Kevin and Deno paying the players, and getting ready for the Chicago tournamet. The Chicago tournament will be the most exciting, dramatic and intense tournament of the year.with the players trying to get into the top 41 for the King of the Hill, and the rest of the players trying to make the top 100 for a 2007 tour card. The IPT is a few weeks late with the checks, but this is not your 20, 30, 40, or $50,000 added tournament, we are talking about $3,000,000 in prize money, and Sigel told me it cost more to produce the tournament, than the payout. I think everybody should cut them some slack, and take a wait and see attitude for a while longer....I'm hoping for the best.

I support the IPT tour 100% and I'm waiting for Chicago to get here..
2006 tour card member Michael Zimmerman
 
Okay I'll stop laughing long enough to say good luck. You think Sigel would tell you that, hey the IPT is making a fortune off these tournaments. ??? Open your eyes Mike. The tournament was scheduled for months. KT knew he had to pay out $3 million. It wasn't like it was the show Deal or No Deal and someone accidently won the grand prize. I could go on and on about how ridiculious and ez it is to cut 200 checks in 30 minutes. About how much PR damage this has done to the IPT. Even if there is a Chicago tournament, it won't be the biggest or best ever. Moral is down, overall interest is down (see the qualifiers being played if you don't believe me), and KT the marketer has done so much damage, who knows if it can ever be fixed.
 
centered5050 said:
Personally, I have complete confidence in Kevin and Deno paying the players, and getting ready for the Chicago tournamet. The Chicago tournament will be the most exciting, dramatic and intense tournament of the year.with the players trying to get into the top 41 for the King of the Hill, and the rest of the players trying to make the top 100 for a 2007 tour card. The IPT is a few weeks late with the checks, but this is not your 20, 30, 40, or $50,000 added tournament, we are talking about $3,000,000 in prize money, and Sigel told me it cost more to produce the tournament, than the payout. I think everybody should cut them some slack, and take a wait and see attitude for a while longer....I'm hoping for the best.

I support the IPT tour 100% and I'm waiting for Chicago to get here..
2006 tour card member Michael Zimmerman
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Good luck to you Mike!!
 
Unfortunately, right now it appears pretty crappy because of Kevin's get-paid-as-you-lose promises. All the best to you Mike. I hope it works and you players get some kind of leverage down the road. Right now you all are on the very narrow end of the stick.

Good playing by the way. Obviously you are one player that deserved his spot on ability alone!

John
 
If you really feel that way then you should enter a qualifier. Call them up. I am sure they will tell you where the entries are low. Hell, you might be the only one to enter.

If checks and/or an explanation are not fortcoming by the end of the week then all is lost. Abandon ship. Man the lifeboats. Cut all ties. Blame Mike Sigel.

Jake
 
The number of entrants at a particular venue is suppose to be secret. However, I know for a fact that some players had access to this information.


That was when the qualifiers were busy. I'm sure that they'd be willing to work with you for that nice juicy $2,000 by suggesting a good location...
 
<<I'm sure that they'd be willing to work with you >>

I am a player sponsor so I know for a fact that is true. But remember, the current qualifiers are for enty into the event at which 2007 Tour Cards are the "prize."

There are no "qualifiers" for the Chicago event which is for the 150 existing IPT Tour members.

So, if you enter and place 1-2 in the current qualifiers, you are entered into the 200 player 2007 Tour Card tournament in Vegas from which 50 players will be awarded cards for NEXT year. You win no money...you just get your card and you have 1 chance in 4 of doing so.

This is not a criticism of any kind. Just commenting on the facts as I understand them.
 
Right. These qualifiers qualify you to play in the final qualifier in December. And if you finish 3-6 in a qualifier you win free entry into another of the remaining 70 qualifiers.

Since IPT staff is still working on the qualifiers one has to wonder what is going on with the IPT.

The membership club seems to be going strong with more videos coming October 1st. The website is being updated on a regular basis. IPT staff are still working on the qualifiers. So it is not like they just up and left.

Perhaps KT will keep the membership club and just drop the tournaments as a lost cause. Or sell that part as is rumored.

Maybe KT's real intention was to video tape all the pros playing and then put the videos in the membership club library where members can pay for view.

Okay. It looks like everyone will just have to wait until Monday, October 2nd to find out what the future holds for the IPT. I suspect that is when the announcements will be made.

Jake
 
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Life ...

would be pretty dull without the IPT in it now. It fuel injected my already existent enthusiasm for Pool, making every Pool event seem more exciting and interesting besides just the IPT events. Even the US Open now, given current situation, seems almost anticlimatic.

I enjoyed the events, the website, especially the statistics being developed and improving every event, the professionalism shown to the players, and I could see how their influence could spread to lower ranks thorughout Pool to make the whole sport better for us.

Yeah, I would hate to just go back to 'What kind of tip do you use' threads if the IPT doesn't make it ...... excuse me, I have to go listen to my daily 'Banking with the Beard' song, it puts me in a good place ...
 
If all the qualifiers do not happen, and there are open spots for the next field of 200, could someone (first come first served) pay and just get in?
 
Would the tour not attract more players if the qualifiers were a more sensible entry fee?

Like, $200 rather than $2,000.

I feel sure that this would have a postive effect on the number of runners..
 
"Sigel told me it cost more to produce the tournament, than the payout."

You are one naive dolt if you believe that it cost over three
million dollars to run that tournament, lol.
 
professorpool said:
Would the tour not attract more players if the qualifiers were a more sensible entry fee?

Like, $200 rather than $2,000.

I feel sure that this would have a postive effect on the number of runners..
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Good thoughts!

$200 to play the qualifiers and if you qualify $2k to purchase the card would even be fair. Right now I know several players that were willing to pay even the $2k qualifier $ until the mysterious check problems from Reno.

Now it is like someone dropped a bomb and people are running as fast as they can the other way from the IPT qualifiers(who will get crushed in the stampede?).

It seems everyone is forgetting a group that is very interested in pool that has more money than KT could dream of that is just watching from the sidelines. Chief O.B. Osceola and the Seminole Indian Tribe have turned the Florida Pro Tour into the highest paying regional tour to date. There have been rumors of them financing some $100k tournaments for the past few years.

They may just be watching all of the good and bad moves the IPT is making for some future plans of their own. The Seminole Tribe is a class act all the way.

As usual....just my own thoughts....................;)
 
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If all the qualifiers do not happen, and there are open spots for the next field of 200, could someone (first come first served) pay and just get in?
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Doubt that could happen,or that 200 is a relevant number right now for a couple of reasons:-

1. The "next field" (after Chicago which isn't an Open event anyway) is the 2007 tour card qualifying event at The Wynn which was never planned to be a 200 runner field in the first place.The original number of runners envisaged was 250,not 200.The numbers are now flexible and could be as many as 275/280 because that field will consist of all the current card holders who don't make the top 100 money list and who want to play in the 2007 qualifying event plus the 1st/2nd in all of the approx 100 scheduled pre-qualifying events.

2. Presently looks like there might be approx 75/80 of the current card holders finishing outside the top 100 and thereby eligible to play if they want to.There would therefore need to be less than approx 60 qualifying events actually take place for the The Wynn field to drop below 200 runners.

3. There is no way that "turn up and pay and play" is going to happen in principle anyway.For all the criticism of IPT,some of it justified some of it not,they have never wavered on that principle for any tournament and it would be outrageously unfair to those who have pre-qualified for IPT to move the goalposts like that at The Wynn.


Under the circumstances it is pretty clear that the field at The Wynn will consist of the ejected card holders who want to play plus the qualifiers,whatever that total numer transpires to be.Your speculative scenario is clearly a non-starter:)
 
memikey said:
Doubt that could happen,or that 200 is a relevant number right now for a couple of reasons:-

1. The "next field" (after Chicago which isn't an Open event anyway) is the 2007 tour card qualifying event at The Wynn which was never planned to be a 200 runner field in the first place.The original number of runners envisaged was 250,not 200.The numbers are now flexible and could be as many as 275/280 because that field will consist of all the current card holders who don't make the top 100 money list and who want to play in the 2007 qualifying event plus the 1st/2nd in all of the approx 100 scheduled pre-qualifying events.

2. Presently looks like there might be approx 75/80 of the current card holders finishing outside the top 100 and thereby eligible to play if they want to.There would therefore need to be less than approx 60 qualifying events actually take place for the The Wynn field to drop below 200 runners.

3. There is no way that "turn up and pay and play" is going to happen in principle anyway.For all the criticism of IPT,some of it justified some of it not,they have never wavered on that principle for any tournament and it would be outrageously unfair to those who have pre-qualified for IPT to move the goalposts like that at The Wynn.


Under the circumstances it is pretty clear that the field at The Wynn will consist of the ejected card holders who want to play plus the qualifiers,whatever that total numer transpires to be.Your speculative scenario is clearly a non-starter:)
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Thanks I thought you point would be the case, I just thought maybe with the current situation, the extra 2 grand here and there would be difficult to pass up on the KT end.
 
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