Consider me an Idiot ............

RussPrince said:
Why is making a ball on the push out a foul? Don't think I've heard that one before
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Jaden said:
It wouldn't be a foul, but whether it came back up or not would depend on what was agreed to before hand. If it was agreed that money ball spots up made out of turn, then it spots up. If not, it stays down..

That's why it is so important to clarify rules when matching up.

Jaden
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You cannot ever, in any 9 ball game, shoot an opponents money ball in on a foul or pushout or whatever you want to call it without it spotting up.

Learn to play.

ONB
 
Jaden said:
no they don't say that failing to hit the lowest numbered ball on the table is a foul. Depending on the rule set, they usually say that with the EXCEPTION of a push, you must first hit the lowest numbered ball and then one ball must be legally pocketed or a ball must touch the rail.

The exception is always the push out, when anything can be shot. Typically, the money ball (9, in 9 ball) would be spotted while other balls stay down, so handicap balls being spotted back up would be a gray area and that should be agreed upon before you match up...

Jaden
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It's not a "gray area". Learn to play.

ONB
 
I'll play you any time...lol

Old Nine Baller said:
It's not a "gray area". Learn to play.

ONB
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What, am I you dipshits' new target to try and piss off get to leave the forums??? Keep it up, before too long, no one that knows jack shit about pool will be left and you and your ilk can spout your nonsense unencumbered...

Jaden
 
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There are no rule books for ball spots...

Old Nine Baller said:
Learn to play and to gamble before posting your all-encompassing pronouncements.

ONB
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There are no rule books for getting ball spots... It's what the players agree to. If you don't know that, then you are the one who knows nothing about gambling...

Jaden
 
Of course he doesn't...

Banks said:
So, you're saying you want to post up something? :confused:
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My recent post that I don't typically gamble is what is letting him spout his mouth off. If he wanted to, I'm sure there's no shortage of stakers on my end.

But when I do gamble I do it selectively. I would never knowingly gamble with a douche like him...I prefer a gentleman's game.

Jaden

wait a day or two and my tv table match from the mezz west state event will be on youtube. Anyone who has a question about my ability will have it answered then...lol
 
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Is there an exception to the rule?

Actually if you're giving a player "the last 4" and the 6/7/8/9 are on the table you can shoot the 6, 7, or 8 in on a "roll out" WITHOUT them spotting back up.....if you shoot in the 6 ball, the 5 (or 4) becomes one of the "last 4" money balls.....the 6 ball would stay down.

Besides that it is universally true that "money balls" never stay down on a foul/roll out.



Old Nine Baller said:
You cannot ever, in any 9 ball game, shoot an opponents money ball in on a foul or pushout or whatever you want to call it without it spotting up.

Learn to play.

ONB
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Old Nine Baller said:
You cannot ever, in any 9 ball game, shoot an opponents money ball in on a foul or pushout or whatever you want to call it without it spotting up.

Learn to play.

ONB
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I agree with this....ANY money ball is treated like the 9-ball when I play.
 
CJ Wiley said:
Actually if you're giving a player "the last 4" and the 6/7/8/9 are on the table you can shoot the 6, 7, or 8 in on a "roll out" WITHOUT them spotting back up.....if you shoot in the 6 ball, the 5 (or 4) becomes one of the "last 4" money balls.....the 6 ball would stay down.

Besides that it is universally true that "money balls" never stay down on a foul/roll out.
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Besides what? You said nothing in your first paragraph.

I've already stated that moneyballs never stay down on a foul/pushout.

ONB
 
Jaden said:
wait a day or two and my tv table match from the mezz west state event will be on youtube. Anyone who has a question about my ability will have it answered then...lol
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Your "ability" has not been called into question. Your knowledge of the rules of engagement has.

You don't know anything about gambling at anything but you act like you do.

P.S. I don't know or want to know anything about your past history. We are talking about now.

Learn to play.

ONB
 
Old Nine Baller said:
Your "ability" has not been called into question. Your knowledge of the rules of engagement has.

You don't know anything about gambling at anything but you act like you do.

P.S. I don't know or want to know anything about your past history. We are talking about now.

Learn to play.

ONB
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I must've missed it.. who are you again? :confused:
 
Old Nine Baller said:
Besides what? You said nothing in your first paragraph.

I've already stated that moneyballs never stay down on a foul/pushout.

ONB
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He actually made a point there and gave an example about a money ball being made WITHOUT being spotted back up.
In his example, the moneyball just changed.
 
lol...

Old Nine Baller said:
Your "ability" has not been called into question. Your knowledge of the rules of engagement has.

You don't know anything about gambling at anything but you act like you do.

P.S. I don't know or want to know anything about your past history. We are talking about now.

Learn to play.

ONB
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I don't know anything about gambling, yet, I was in an article in Card Player magazine in 2006.

I don't know anything about gambling. You should probably quit while you're ahead, errr behind...

Jaden
 
Really...

So you guys are saying that ALWAYS in gambling the money ball gets spotted back up???

That is funny, because I will always purposefully make an opponent's money ball combo or carom when it's available, and not ONCE has it been spotted up, but I have seen players agree that money balls are ALWAYS spotted back up when made out of turn.

So again, it comes down to what is agreed upon by both parties.

I will also say that I would err on it being spotted back up if it had not been discussed before hand and it sure as shit isn't a FOUL to make the opponents money ball on a push...lol

Jaden
 
Jaden said:
So you guys are saying that ALWAYS in gambling the money ball gets spotted back up???

That is funny, because I will always purposefully make an opponent's money ball combo or carom when it's available, and not ONCE has it been spotted up, but I have seen players agree that money balls are ALWAYS spotted back up when made out of turn.

So again, it comes down to what is agreed upon by both parties.

I will also say that I would err on it being spotted back up if it had not been discussed before hand and it sure as shit isn't a FOUL to make the opponents money ball on a push...lol

Jaden
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I believe this started regarding a pushout/foul.
 
If you have a push...

Banks said:
I believe this started regarding a pushout/foul.
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If you have a push and the runout is difficult, but a money ball is sitting in the pocket, the choice should be easy, you call push and shoot in the money ball.

If it's the nineball it gets spotted. If it's another ball that you are spotting to the opponent, it should be discussed whether or not out of turn money balls get spotted up or not before play starts, if play starts without discussing it, it should be spotted on a pushout only but not any time it is made in play.

If I made my opponents money ball after calling push and he went to grab the cb. I'd say, WTF are you doing and I'd stop him right there. A push can hit any ball or no ball and make any ball or no ball with the opponents option to take it as it lays or pass it back to the pusher.

Jaden
 
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