Controversial question- how long do you keep a dead player on Fargo?

[benjaminwah]

I saw today that Chang Jun Lin is still on Fargorate, I dared to make a post on the Matchroom Facebook page about it and people are losing their minds.

What’s the logic on keeping a dead player on there? Isn’t it a CURRENT standing list?

Want to honor the memories of dead players? Maybe make a best of all time page?

I am a fan of his, met him in Vegas and was saddened by his untimely death.

 

[benjaminwah]

Would removing him affect people’s ratings? That seems to be a legitimate issue for Fargorate to address. The wins over him and to him shouldn’t be inconsequential.

 

[garczar]

why does this matter really?? answer? it doesn't. Why don't you contact Mike if it bothers you. My guess is FR is not even aware of it.

 

[Vahmurka]

Would removing him affect people’s ratings?

I just chimed in to suppose it will. Provided on how FargoRate works, as per Mike Page described. FR numbers for players depend on those racks played against their opponents, to such extent that even if a certain player was on hold for a year or two, his FR is going to fluctuate, based on how his opponents are performing during such a hiatus from the game.

 

[Vahmurka]

(garczar, as usual, tends to forget this is an open forum for any pool-related questions we have , and seems to fail just walking by anything he does not feel fitting his own framework)

 

[Bob Jewett]

The matches Chang played are valid data. They make the ratings of the other players more accurate.

Practically, how could FR keep track of the lives/deaths of the 300,000 players in its database? About 2% of the players will die each year or about 16 per day.

 

[MitchAlsup]

A few years ago a friend of mine died.
I got a birthday greeting from her from LinkedIN then later a "congratulate her for a k-th year at CompanyX"
I tried to tell them that she had died, when, where, and cause.
They responded that they needed response from HER in order to quit sending greetings.....

Go figure !!

But that is the insanity of computers.....

 

[Bob Jewett]

A few years ago a friend of mine died.
I got a birthday greeting from her from LinkedIn then later a "congratulate her for a k-th year at CompanyX"
I tried to tell them that she had died, when, where, and cause.
They responded that they needed response from HER in order to quit sending greetings.....

Go figure !!

But that is the insanity of computers.....

LinkedIn is a Microsoft company.

 

[David in FL]

The matches Chang played are valid data. They make the ratings of the other players more accurate.

Practically, how could FR keep track of the lives/deaths of the 300,000 players in its database? About 2% of the players will die each year or about 16 per day.

Yep

Data is data

 

[benjaminwah]

The matches Chang played are valid data. They make the ratings of the other players more accurate.

Practically, how could FR keep track of the lives/deaths of the 300,000 players in its database? About 2% of the players will die each year or about 16 per day.

Good point. But seeing a dead guy go up on the ratings based on his former opponents current matches is a bit bizarre....

 

[Black-Balled]

The matches Chang played are valid data. They make the ratings of the other players more accurate.

Practically, how could FR keep track of the lives/deaths of the 300,000 players in its database? About 2% of the players will die each year or about 16 per day.

Valid points, sunshine.

 

[spartan]

Not sure what the fuss is about.
Fargo just has to hide (not remove) deceased players and not show them in list of top 100 players. Matches of deceased will remain in the system- obviously cannot remove matches of deceased. Just like they hide those high 800+ who don't have enough robustness. Just an administrative tweak. These players will remain in the database just like we all will still have an account here in azb after we die. Assuming azb does not close down before we die

 

[dquarasr]

I die a little each time I miss an easy $ ball…

 

[sjm]

Not sure what the fuss is about.
Fargo just has to hide (not remove) deceased players and not show them in list of top 100 players. Matches of deceased will remain in the system- obviously cannot remove matches of deceased.

That's exactly how I see it.

 

[mikepage]

Not sure what the fuss is about.
Fargo just has to hide (not remove) deceased players and not show them in list of top 100 players. Matches of deceased will remain in the system- obviously cannot remove matches of deceased. Just like they hide those high 800+ who don't have enough robustness. Just an administrative tweak. These players will remain in the database just like we all will still have an account here in azb after we die. Assuming azb does not close down before we die

Yes, exactly. Turns out Chang (and Mika…) are already marked as deceased in our system. That means they are intended to be excluded from the top player lists. And they are in fact excluded with the lists the way most people access them—through the mobile APP.

There are also lists accessed from the website through which we recently learned deceased players are not excluded. That is our error, and we are working on fixing it.