Corey D on Aiming
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Great video. Just goes to show that everyone has an opinion when it comes to the most efficient or quickest way to develop aiming skills, and that opinion is typically wrapped around whatever method they use themselves.
One actually has to step outside of their comfortable box in order to appreciate the value and benefits of a good aiming system. And determining whether or not any system is "good" is a matter of personal results. If you struggle to pocket certain shots, and then try a system that immediately improves your percentage on those shots, then that's a good thing. It's that simple.
I like John's words about a "delivery" system. A good aiming system should provide a standard aim line, a line for delivering the cb so that it pockets the ob. From this line a player must learn to adjust for spin.
It's funny that John knows there is much more to playing great pool than simply aiming shots, but then he says if aiming systems really worked there would be a bunch more pro players. Lol.
The reality is.... a good aiming system can help a player develop pro-level pocketing skills without having to hit a million balls, but being a hell of shot maker is just one element of the game, and it certainly doesn't make you a pro-level player.
One actually has to step outside of their comfortable box in order to appreciate the value and benefits of a good aiming system. And determining whether or not any system is "good" is a matter of personal results. If you struggle to pocket certain shots, and then try a system that immediately improves your percentage on those shots, then that's a good thing. It's that simple.
I like John's words about a "delivery" system. A good aiming system should provide a standard aim line, a line for delivering the cb so that it pockets the ob. From this line a player must learn to adjust for spin.
It's funny that John knows there is much more to playing great pool than simply aiming shots, but then he says if aiming systems really worked there would be a bunch more pro players. Lol.
The reality is.... a good aiming system can help a player develop pro-level pocketing skills without having to hit a million balls, but being a hell of shot maker is just one element of the game, and it certainly doesn't make you a pro-level player.
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Think Cory plays well because he has spent time practicing.
Profundity can be found in many surprising places. This entire post is excellent.
Thank ye.
And which aiming system is good ?
Trying to depend on an invisible "ghost ball" sure isn't one.
Maybe the "parking meter system" is better...?
That's funny Stan.
Funnier than your claims that pros don't use ghost balls or contact points .
And that Hal told you that .
Cool story .
A twitching system sure isn't a good one .
That depends on the user. A player can practice trouble shots over and over again until they're no longer trouble shots, or they can use any system that they think will help speed up that learning/development process. In my opinion, a "good" system is one that provides positive results without having to invest the same amount of practice time that would otherwise be required without using a system.
For me and many others, Poolology is a good system. For others it might not be. Like I said, it all depends on the user. Still, the end goal is to reach a point where you no longer have to rely on a system, unless your system is your psr.
Having a system is not going to shorten your training time imo .
We already know one system has taken one person some 20 years and he's still struggling with it .
Training till the mind's eye takes over won't take more time than having a system .
Visualizing the two balls colliding and setting up on that visualization is not going to take more time .
It actually can, depending on the system. If it doesn't, then the player should find another system.
Imagine two different methods for trying to learn how to play a guitar. One method is to just pick it up and watch how others play it, then try your best to figure out the fingering for all the chords. With a good ear, good observation, and plenty of trial and error practice time, you will eventually learn a few chords. After that you'll repeat them enough to know them by heart.
The other method uses a chord chart that outlines the exact finger positions of each chord. There is no trial and error. It's right there in front of you and all you have to do is follow the chord chart enough times until you can make the chords without looking at the chart anymore.
Compared to pocketing pool balls, the first method is like having no aiming system. The second method is having a good aiming system. It's can be a quicker, more efficient way to learn.
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That's comparing systematic practice vs just winging it .
There is no proof a system is better than someone shooting the same shot over and over again till he masters it .
There are kids in the Philippines and China who can give you the 7-out but have never heard of any aiming system .
They just know how to hit the shots from mind's eye .
Let's not even talk snooker . It seems like nobody cares about fancy systems there .
They would certainly laugh at pivoting systems . When they go down, they go down on the line of the shot in a 5-point alignment system.
It's comparing systematic learning to trial and error learning.
Kicking and banking systems, for example. A player can practice kicks or banks for a hours and hours, and eventually they'll develop a pretty good eye for aligning kicks and banks. Because after enough trial and error they finally begin to start having more success, and therefore give their mind more repetition. Using a system, however, bypasses all that time consuming trial and error and gives their mind the successful alignments right from the start, allowing positive repetition to occur immediately. There's no way that's not a faster learning process.
And many snooker players actually learn via fractional type aiming, which is a system. Traditional it's a trial and error system, but it doesn't have to be anymore. Instead of estimating or guessing which of the 5 lines a shot is closest to, the player can actually know the line without having to hit a ton of shots before finally developing the ability to just be able to recognize which line to use. That's a huge difference when it comes to learning, as far as how much time is invested. .
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For those that don’t know, Corey picked up a cue for the first time at age 14. By age 16 he was a national level player. Corey learned to play in my home room, Drexeline Billiards, in the Philly burbs.
How can it be guessing when after shooting the same shot over and over again, you start getting the shot picture ?
In snooker, no practice stroke practice session is taught. That way you get to train your mind's eye and start getting the shot picture fast .
I'm not denying that old school trial and error works. After enough misses and makes, you finally do begin to see shots better.
I'm simply saying that there are faster methods to reaching that point of development. Regardless of the skill you want to master or learn, you must first aquire the needed knowledge and then be able to repeat the skill over and over, successfully, in order to burn in into your mind so that it feels natural.
Kicking and banking systems, for example..... A player can practice kicks or banks for a hours and hours, and eventually they'll develop a pretty good eye for aligning kicks and banks. Because after enough trial and error they finally begin to start having more success, and therefore give their mind more repetition. Using a system, however, bypasses all that time consuming trial and error and gives their mind the successful alignments right from the start, allowing positive repetition to occur immediately. There's no way that's not a faster learning process.
