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I think Corey THOUGHT he was in top gear after he beat Warren and his blood was probably pumping, though I don't know how that's possible when playing 1Pocket.

And Shane probably KNEW he was in HIGH gear, resulting in him giving that insane weight. But I've never SEEN a TOP pro giving another TOP pro (not a ABCD player) such weight. I apologize if I'm mistaken.
 
Anyone know, and will say what they were playing for? Not that it matters as it still would be an awesome display if they were just playing for a $100. Johnnyt
 
Icon of Sin said:
Your first sentence is a bit condescending...

Other then that. I have seen Shane run those massive 10ball packages, ever since the first TAR match and multiples after that, but with the 5 and 6 ball it shouldnt be too hard for Corey to return with some of his own as long as he gets a decent break going.

I didnt watch the match but I assume Corey's shoulder/arm is still messed up and he still isnt breaking hard?

I'm a fan of Shane's and have seen it a bunch. Shane getting in stroke is unstoppable. He just goes.

That spot is just massive. Corey obviously liked it and thought so too to still play all the way to being down 11 games.
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I don't mean to be condescending, but it's different when you see him do it in person. When he hits high gear the room just feel electric. It's truly unreal.

I know we have all seen him run packages, but that's my point. We just take for grant it, what the kid can really do. Couple that with the fact, Corey is not the Corey of old. There was a reason he was passed over for the MC team. That reason... HIS BREAK.

In 1p you think Shane would give him a similar spot? Something like 11-5??? HELL NO.

It's all good Icon. I get what your saying, I've just seen Shane outrun the nuts so many times, not much surprises me with him.

Again, sorry to come off dick-ish, it was not intended, and I appololgize.

Cheers!
 
Johnnyt said:
Anyone know, and will say what they were playing for? Not that it matters as it still would be an awesome display if they were just playing for a $100. Johnnyt
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they played a race to 21 for $1400 shane won 21-10 corey lost all the money he won in the one pocket tournament shane made 3 and 7/8 inch pockets look like he was playing on a barbox after the match corey said he needs the 4 and the 5 ball next time they play and shane just smiled
 
Icon of Sin said:
Really? That spot isnt a big deal? He just gave another top player the 5 and 6 in 10ball. One that has a great break as well. That spot is insane, especially against a player of Corey's caliber.
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Sorry but no, Corey is in no way a top player anymore. He "was" once one of the best on the planet but that was a long time ago when he focused on the game and was a true professional and treated pool like a full time job.

THIS is why Corey, Rodney, Hatch, and every other American besides SVB is called "second tier". They are simply not there anymore, they are not equals to the best players in the world like SVB, Orcullo, Ko, and the other elites.

If you think the spot is not a big deal, reverse it, let Corey try to spot SVB the same thing and win a race to 21. He has NO CHANCE winning that way, whereas SVB just beat him like that. There is a BIG GAP between SVB and Corey at this point and this match just illustrates that point very clearly.
 
Shane is currently that much better than most of the field... At least here in the states.. Hasn't translated out of country yet...

Doing the scoring and replays I have noticed he just makes fewer errors per balls pocketed... Once he gets a shot he is out or you are not going to like it if he can't....

At every event you will have several players looking like a favorite and playing near flawless for a few matches but they always seem to falter at or before the finish line...

Case in point right now is Niels... Niels is playing so good that it's scary but he has a letdown every tournament it seems... If he plays top gear even Shane won't like it in a single match but something seems to always make him stumble along the way...

Last time someone was in the place Shane is may have been Mika's run a few years ago... He played flawless every single match it seemed... Darren got close with his run but it was more grit and grind than flawless pool....

The only thing everyone can hope for is that Shane burns out again.. He had a letoff a few years ago and while he was still winning some events he wasn't the favorite going into every tournament.. Right now until he burns out you might be able to take him against the field in any 9ball or 10ball event and come out good.. Likely a mortal lock if you took him against the field to finish top 3 and got action......

The rare thing to me is he can do it for longer sets than just tournament races... Focus like that for a race to 9-11 is one thing... Doing it to 21 or 30... That's the insane part.....

Chris
 
I think pool trax had logged shane doing only a couple of 2 packs vs efren on the last TAR match? Was he having a bad day?

I remember the odds were for a 4 or 5 pack on some of his previous long race 9b matches. Maybe the TAR match vs Corey.
 
So Corey does all the hard work in beating Kiamco in the 1pkt finals. Plays really strong. Only to see his winnings robbed by Shane afterwards, lol. I would of emptied out on Corey with that spot considering the tight pockets of that table don't favor Shane's break. Glad I don't gamble.

Truly impressive display by Shane.
 
SVB is awesome and my favorite player but I'm about 45 minutes into this and he's getting every roll. I think he played well enough to win anyway but without these early rolls it wouldn't have been the curb stomping that it was.
 
Shane is a monster, but it's really something different to be sitting a few feet away watching him demolish people. And he's a really cool guy.

Last night he had Lizard barking at him for a game... Shane offered him the 5/6/7 and all breaks for $1000 a rack or up to $5000 a set. The guy is in kill mode and he's making those tables look easy. The nine ball tourney starting today is going to be fun to watch.
 
Celtic said:
Sorry but no, Corey is in no way a top player anymore. He "was" once one of the best on the planet but that was a long time ago when he focused on the game and was a true professional and treated pool like a full time job.

THIS is why Corey, Rodney, Hatch, and every other American besides SVB is called "second tier". They are simply not there anymore, they are not equals to the best players in the world like SVB, Orcullo, Ko, and the other elites.

If you think the spot is not a big deal, reverse it, let Corey try to spot SVB the same thing and win a race to 21. He has NO CHANCE winning that way, whereas SVB just beat him like that. There is a BIG GAP between SVB and Corey at this point and this match just illustrates that point very clearly.
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Don't get too carried away. I think Corey is second tier, borderline top tier. Give Corey, SVB's break, and see how many guys wanna play him.

The break is HUGE and Corey doesn't have one. That's the problem. He needs to get to a point where he can break like SVB. (not likely to happen.) He shoots plenty straight enough.

(In case any one was wondering about Shane and tight pockets, his old practice table is like 4" or so. (maybe a hair less.) It's actually set up in LampShade's basement now. the thing is BRUTAL to play on.)
 
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Picture this.
Corey is clean-shaven, wearing light slacks and a red or white polo.
On his head, a white ballcap with black letters across the front:
"PING"

Doesn't he just look like a golfer? I can imagine him hunkering down over a putt,
glancing up at the cup every so often, before taking a measured swing...

This is corey's way of announcing to the world that's he's ready
to start his pro golf career.
 
CreeDo said:
Picture this.
Corey is clean-shaven, wearing light slacks and a red or white polo.
On his head, a white ballcap with black letters across the front:
"PING"

Doesn't he just look like a golfer? I can imagine him hunkering down over a putt,
glancing up at the cup every so often, before taking a measured swing...

This is corey's way of announcing to the world that's he's ready
to start his pro golf career.
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If TAR returns, their first match should be John Schmidt vs. Corey Deuel in golf!!!
 
jhanso18 said:
Don't get too carried away. I think Corey is second tier, borderline top tier. Give Corey, SVB's break, and see how many guys wanna play him.

The break is HUGE and Corey doesn't have one. That's the problem. He needs to get to a point where he can break like SVB. (not likely to happen.) He shoots plenty straight enough.

(In case any one was wondering about Shane and tight pockets, his old practice table is like 4" or so. (maybe a hair less.) It's actually set up in LampShade's basement now. the thing is BRUTAL to play on.)
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It seems like Corey has gotten better at One Pocket, but somewhat worse at rotation games
 
When the other guy doesn't let you to the table with an open shot...it does not matter what the spot is. This happens from time to time with the rare - air guys. I was lucky enough to see Tademy like this in'90. I've heard stories of Keither (as JAM eluded to). If the break is landing perfect and they are in stroke big-time, these R-A guys are not going to miss after the 5 ball. The spot just doesn't matter.

And how hard Corey breaks makes no difference. Shane breaks at 70%...his words. Charlie Bryant used to break twice as hard as SVB. But, he didn't control the break. Shane doesn't break to make balls. He breaks to make a ball, shapes on the 1, and all others evenly spread. If that happens, he is going to run.

Respect, Courage, and Commitment!
 
That's a crazy spot for a player like Corey... and SVB won 21-10?!?!

This I gotta see when I get home with a good broadband connection...
 
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