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[customcuelathe]

I've been hoping to see a video as well. I really need to get another lathe to do finishing but if I can get a multipurpose machine all the better.

My 2 concerns are:

- The way the Gun Drill will be held in that QCTP. Just looks like there is a chance of pushing off to the side with a lot of pressure. I'd prefer it to be driven from the center-line of the toolpost/machine.

- The other is the support under that 30" bed looks kind of weak, especially at the feet.

I did see the the drive/coring section at SBE this year and it looked solid.

Brian
Your concern is well thought out and very valid, but in response to that, all I could say that the QCTP is secured with 2 x 1/4-20 bolts and the main drive is 9/16-20 bolt. For absolute assurance I will add a locking feature for the QCTP corner, just for a peace of mind for anyone who has any doubts, plus a lock on the slide too. I won't sell any unit if I wasn't sure it will perform.
I do have 4 units made up, my main preposterous in posting this, was to get a feel whether a coring lathe concept would be something cue makers would like to own. I have a clear direction now based on all your inputs. The next step is to prove the motor's capabilities.
Regards

 

[bruppert]

A 12 by 36 should be fine unless you need to taper with that metal lathe.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EISEN-1236G...330710097828?pt=BI_Lathes&hash=item4cffdb9fa4
Buy!!!

Thanks, and no I don't want to taper with it. I've just always been of the mind no matter which lathe you pick sooner or later you'll wish you had bought one a little bigger

That would actually work well. Don't have to buy a phase converter or a motor. I'd really like to make my own pins and live thread my A-Joints and ferrule tenons. Still have the same problem though, getting a 1200 pound machine into my basement.

 

[bruppert]

Brian
Your concern is well thought out and very valid, but in response to that, all I could say that the QCTP is secured with 2 x 1/4-20 bolts and the main drive is 9/16-20 bolt. For absolute assurance I will add a locking feature for the QCTP corner, just for a peace of mind for anyone who has any doubts, plus a lock on the slide too. I won't sell any unit if I wasn't sure it will perform.
I do have 4 units made up, my main preposterous in posting this, was to get a feel whether a coring lathe concept would be something cue makers would like to own. I have a clear direction now based on all your inputs. The next step is to prove the motor's capabilities.
Regards

Cool, look forward to seeing the machine in action. Like I said, I don't have to have another lathe right this minute so I'll see what your machine does before pulling the trigger on something else. But don't dawdle too long, I have a couple blocks of gorgeous Camphor Burl just itching to be be sliced and holed.

 

[rhncue]

Joey, I had a wood lathe, one of the old heavy cast iron Craftsman lathes, solid machine but I sold it. It took up a lot of room for doing only one thing. I'd like to get something I can do several things on, coring being one. I have several friends who own machine shops and one of them "might" let me core there but I know they don't want me gumming up their ways and coolant tanks with wood dust so I won't even ask.

I have room for a 13x40 which is what I really want but my shop is in the basement and I am not sure riggers could get it down there. I am in no hurry so I'll just hang onto my cash and keep looking, sooner later the right thing will come up. The Mrs. wants a Bass Boat for her B-day (how's that for a good woman?!) so maybe I'll just concentrate on that for now

Oh, and I owe you an email. I got your last one but I've been busy with other stuff and haven't messed with it. I'll get to it in the next couple days and let you know how it works out.

Rick, yes, Chris is great to deal with. I own a Deluxe and its been a decent, versatile machine. The majority of my issues may have been my somewhat unrealistic expectations out of a hobby lathe. I have a few small lingering issues but I have workarounds for all of them. The few things I've called Chris about he's helped me with. I was actually thinking of just buying a basic Deluxe which will do what I want (minus coring) and I can use the bars, rests, tooling, etc from my other machine. Just have to see how much after-bass-boat cash I have left.

I once moved from Cincinnati to Columbus and once there rented a small house. I put my big lathe (12-48) in the garage. My Enco 12-36 I put through the basement window which was one of those small, oblong ones you see in most of the older houses. I took the head and tail stock off of the lathe and then with the use of 3 come a-longs, I moved it through the window and set it up in the basement. 1 year later I took it out the same way, all with no help. It all can be done with determination

Dick

 

[Trent]

I just got back from vegas. I have couple of hot orders I need to ship right away. I will do the video as soon as I have some free time.
The motor's power is an optional choice.
is the . I have 4 different motors in stock, 1/2hp, 3/4hp, 1hp, and if needed 1.5hp. Its all at the customers discretion to choose and order which ever suits their needs.
Regards

Shouldn't you test this machine first then put the motor on it that's works best? Honestly I dought it would do a good job on anything less than the 1.5 hp motor and even then that may be pushing it for a machine that is not very rigid.

I'm curious to see the video as I've been sceptic since it arrived on here. But I would like to see it in action, after all a ccoring machine would be a nice addition to the shop.

 

[customcuelathe]

Just a thought bassel but you may want to try and make one good machine, and stop testing so much using the upfront money you get from the people that show interest in your lathe. From what ive seen at the last trade show you have a long way to go. Your personality sucks, and from what people are saying so does you customer :thumbup:service.
I could never justify buying a lathe from a person that acts the way you do, sorry but your lathes have a long way to go. Either go with a Porper or high tower stay away from this guy and his lathes

Just a reminder to everyone who reads this post Cuemakertostart is non other than the pathetic crazy guy who wants wants now now Randy white. I feel sorry to anyone who would sell you a lathe, oh wait I forgot, no one in their right mind would sell you anything. N

 

[Dave38]

The motor's power is an optional choice.
is the . I have 4 different motors in stock, 1/2hp, 3/4hp, 1hp, and if needed 1.5hp. Its all at the customers discretion to choose and order which ever suits their needs.
Regards

Not trying to stir the pot, but if a designer/engineer is selling a type of equipment like a coring lathe, he should already know the amount of horsepower it will require to do every type of coring of any type of wood, and should be tested as such before even thinking of selling one machine. The customer just wants to drill out some wood, and will normally have no real idea what it takes to do it. That is the designers/engineers job to develop and the salesman's job to sell. Offering different HP motors and telling the customer to select what they 'think' they need, is, IMHO, not a good way for your machine to perform as well as it can, as the customer will probably choose the wrong HP motor based on cost. That will make your lathe look bad, and then it all goes down from there.
Just my take on things, I know I won't buy something of this price range, unless I have been shown it can clearly do the job with any kind of wood without buying another motor, options, etc.
Dave

 

[customcuelathe]

Brian
Your concern is well thought out and very valid, but in response to that, all I could say that the QCTP is secured with 2 x 1/4-20 bolts and the main drive is 9/16-20 bolt. For absolute assurance I will add a locking feature for the QCTP corner, just for a peace of mind for anyone who has any doubts, plus a lock on the slide too. I won't sell any unit if I wasn't sure it will perform.
I do have 4 units made up, my main preposterous in posting this, was to get a feel whether a coring lathe concept would be something cue makers would like to own. I have a clear direction now based on all your inputs. The next step is to prove the motor's capabilities.
Regards

Guys
So for Thr delay in testing this model, I have been swamped at my day job plus building CBL ll machines. I am almost cought up and should have time to put one of the coring lathes together and video tape it's coring capabilities.
I will also have 3 Beast Cue Lathes ready to ship by mid to end of July. I will post pictures when I get back home next week.

Regards
Bassel. 248-884-4469
Custom Cue Lathes LLC
Customcuelathes@yahoo.com

 

[JoeyInCali]

Guys
So for Thr delay in testing this model, I have been swamped at my day job plus building CBL ll machines. I am almost cought up and should have time to put one of the coring lathes together and video tape it's coring capabilities.
I will also have 3 Beast Cue Lathes ready to ship by mid to end of July. I will post pictures when I get back home next week.

Regards
Bassel. 248-884-4469
Custom Cue Lathes LLC
Customcuelathes@yahoo.com

Any video on that coring yet ?
Thanks.

 

[customcuelathe]

Any video on that coring yet ?
Thanks.

Well
I never did do the videos, once I shipped the only complete unit I had last year, I never found the time to put together another one. Although I have 3 beds/ chassis. Now that I have couple of gun drills, I should get one ready. Hopefully I can take it with me to valley forge for demonstration.
I have been really busy on the personal side, and have not had any time for R&D lately. One the coring lathe took the back burner last year, it totally fell of my radar. I will do my best to get it ready very soon.
Regards

 

[Rabbit]

Well
I never did do the videos, once I shipped the only complete unit I had last year, I never found the time to put together another one. Although I have 3 beds/ chassis. Now that I have couple of gun drills, I should get one ready. Hopefully I can take it with me to valley forge for demonstration.
I have been really busy on the personal side, and have not had any time for R&D lately. One the coring lathe took the back burner last year, it totally fell of my radar. I will do my best to get it ready very soon.
Regards

You just now got a gun drill?? did you test these before you offered to sell them??

I was intrested in these and waiting to see the video.

 

[Rabbit]

you just now got a Gun drill does that mean you didnt test these before you started offering them for sale??

I was intrested in these and wanted to see the video of it coring.

 

[customcuelathe]

you just now got a Gun drill does that mean you didnt test these before you started offering them for sale??

I was intrested in these and wanted to see the video of it coring.

I am afraid you read too much into what I stated above.
First, I haven't sold any without testing
The unit I had at valley forge last year was sold to a friend as a repair lathe. He really liked the bed carriage setup.
Second I have had a guns till since I have started the thread, but now I have 4 of them. A good customer of mine asked me to make him one, so I bought a bunch and had my machinist concert them from coolant to air nasal.
Just thought I would explain before everyone starts to draw their own conclusion.
I know the machine works, I will eventually get it done, I just didn't think anyone wanted this.
Regards

 

[Dave38]

Don't take this the wrong way Bassel, but It's quite possible no one wanted it due to NO VIDEO showing it could do what you claimed. The fact that you sold the only one of these as a repair lathe makes one wonder...how good was it for coring...
Aside from that, you stated that you NOW have gundrills, implying that you didn't actually have even one when you offered this lathe, leading one to believe you didn't test it with an actual gundrill for coring before you showed it here.
Then you have offered the 'customer to chose the HP of motor' that may work or not work for the intended operation of the machine you are advertising for this operation, and you have no opinion as to which motor should be used???????????........
and you call yourself an engineer? These are the basic questions one would expect the designer and builder to be able to answer BEFORE someone spends $1000-$2500 on a machine. NEWS FLASH, CUEBUILDERS AREN'T RICH, NOR DUMBAZZES like you may want them to be.
Then you say you will do a video a day or 2 away.... then a year goes by and now here we are. Glad no one gave you money to build one of these. Otherwise it may be more like the thread involving Dave....Some advice, don't falsely advertise a product that don't exist, and just deliver a product that exceeds what you say about it...!!
Do the R+D BEFORE you advertise your NEW invention. It will save you a bunch of heartburn from people like me, that don't like getting burned by bad engineers.
Dave

 

[Rabbit]

Don't take this the wrong way Bassel, but It's quite possible no one wanted it due to NO VIDEO showing it could do what you claimed. The fact that you sold the only one of these as a repair lathe makes one wonder...how good was it for coring...
Aside from that, you stated that you NOW have gundrills, implying that you didn't actually have even one when you offered this lathe, leading one to believe you didn't test it with an actual gundrill for coring before you showed it here.
Then you have offered the 'customer to chose the HP of motor' that may work or not work for the intended operation of the machine you are advertising for this operation, and you have no opinion as to which motor should be used???????????........
and you call yourself an engineer? These are the basic questions one would expect the designer and builder to be able to answer BEFORE someone spends $1000-$2500 on a machine. NEWS FLASH, CUEBUILDERS AREN'T RICH, NOR DUMBAZZES like you may want them to be.
Then you say you will do a video a day or 2 away.... then a year goes by and now here we are. Glad no one gave you money to build one of these. Otherwise it may be more like the thread involving Dave....Some advice, don't falsely advertise a product that don't exist, and just deliver a product that exceeds what you say about it...!!
Do the R+D BEFORE you advertise your NEW invention. It will save you a bunch of heartburn from people like me, that don't like getting burned by bad engineers.
Dave

What he said :thumbup:

Thanks dave you said it better than I did. I was trying to be nice :sorry:

 

[customcuelathe]

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[Rabbit]

Dave
Quiet frankly, I would expect anything less from you. you are always have a negative thing to say about me, my products, or anything I say for that matter. I refuse to sink to you level and start a huge argument over nothing. You always start with you assumptions and speculations thinking you know it all. Well I am sorry to tell you that you don't know anything about me, or my products.
By the way, it's called R&D not R+D, just thought you should know Mr. Know it all.
This shit is getting old Dave, you need to grow up. Guys like you give Cue Builders a bad name.

Id be willing to say responses like this give suppliers a bad name

As someone who plans to make money off this forum i think you should treat everyone as a potential client and reframe from talking to people in this manner.

Also if your products are as good as you say they are and work as you suggest then you shouldnt have to defend them and yourself all the time.

Case and point I dont see anyone doggin the porper lathe or Mr. Hightower on here but ive done some research recently and there have been many many bad threads concerning you and your equipment.:sorry:

I was intrested in this item but after further research and your most recent post i think ill have to pass.

hopefully you can get your act together for yourself and the forum.

 

[pescadoman]

It's hard to get really excited when you want 1500.00 front for something that was never proven to even work.

You aren't doing yourself any favors with your attitude....

 

[Jim Baxter]

I can not see where Dave was out of line , just asking questions and stating facts , you should have aalready done . Jim

 

[Dave38]

Dave
Quiet frankly, I wouldn't expect anything less from you. you always have a negative thing to say about me, my products, or anything I say for that matter. I refuse to sink to you level and start a huge argument over nothing. You always start with your assumptions and speculations thinking you know it all. Well I am sorry to tell you that you don't know anything about me, or my products.
By the way, it's called R&D not R+D, just thought you should know Mr. Know it all.
This shit is getting old Dave, you need to grow up. Guys like you give Cue Builders a bad name.

Sorry for coming on so harshly, but my first job, for 7 years, was in a family appliance business and was taught that the family name was on the final product, so If I failed on a job, it meant the family failed. We sold new appliances, but mainly rebuilt ones with a one year warrentee on parts and labor. Any rebuilt unit was thoroughly tested many times before putting it out on the sales floor. We never made the customer be the tester to see if we missed something. You have some good ideas, but you don't seem to understand you can't make the customer pay $1800 for a unit that you yourself haven't tested under the harsh conditions that a cuemaker will put it thru. The cost of materials is roughly $300 or less for this coring lathe, so the other $1500 or so is supposed to be the R&D To ensure the customer is getting a great product. Am I wrong to believe this? Any purchase above $100 for cuebuilding, I look at very carefully. I need to know that money was well spent. I'm a part timer, my cues don't sell for $1000's like others. I sell to working joes that can only afford a couple hundred if even that. I have been burnt by a CNC maker for a machine I am still trying to rebuild correctly so it will do what the original builder said it will do. I haven't even done a single inlay with it yet and have owned it for 4-5 years now. So far I'm about $400 more into it then the original price. So when I see someone advertising a BETTER, CHEAPER product on here, as you had once touted when you first started, I tend to be very critical of said products's performance and the seller's/builder's/designer's service after the sale. It's nothing personal, it's only business, just from the consumer's end.
Again, my advice, is to make sure it works and performs to specs, BEFORE offering it. That means spending your cash to build and test before taking a dime from a potential customer for a product
Just my take on it, but as you can read,...I'm not the only one here that believes this.
Enjoy your weekend everyone.
Dave