could 526 be broken?

Will it

Could it be broken? Probably .... Will it? No, it won't, not without incentive to do so.

Besides a lot of guys could sure get discouraged trying to break it, like missing on ball 347 or 478 or 224 countless times.

Since Kia has supported Pool tournaments in the past, wouldn't it be great to get a carmaker to give away a new car to the person that breaks Mosconi's record first.

or

If Diamond would give away a new Diamond table to the person that breaks it first.

or

Even a cuemaker to make the record breaker a cue.

or

A company to guarantee 2 years worth of sponsorship to the player that breaks the record.
 
unbelievable

PoolBum said:
Speaking of which, the actual record for consecutive free throws is an astounding 5,221 by Ted St. Martin.
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Now that's one record I didn't know about.....more than astounding, it's incredible.........I wonder if the foul line distance and size of hoop and basketball were "regulation"........

My God, you get any professional to try and make 500 in a row, let alone 5,000!
 
Snapshot9 said:
Could it be broken? Probably .... Will it? No, it won't, not without incentive to do so.

Besides a lot of guys could sure get discouraged trying to break it, like missing on ball 347 or 478 or 224 countless times.

Since Kia has supported Pool tournaments in the past, wouldn't it be great to get a carmaker to give away a new car to the person that breaks Mosconi's record first.

or

If Diamond would give away a new Diamond table to the person that breaks it first.

or

Even a cuemaker to make the record breaker a cue.

or

A company to guarantee 2 years worth of sponsorship to the player that breaks the record.
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what if someone already has it on video and is waiting for an incentive to show it? the incentive shouldnt matter, Mosconi never had one and if he did who knows how many balls he would have made that day(assuming he stopped because he was tired like was said).
 
Snapshot9 said:
Besides a lot of guys could sure get discouraged trying to break it, like missing on ball 347 or 478 or 224 countless times.
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I know what you mean, I got to 8 the other night and was tired so I had to stop, and the night before I got to 11 and missed-i was so pissed off I kicked the wall and broke my foot.:grin:
 
a video as evidence?

burns420 said:
what if someone already has it on video and is waiting for an incentive to show it? the incentive shouldnt matter, Mosconi never had one and if he did who knows how many balls he would have made that day(assuming he stopped because he was tired like was said).
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I'm not very learned about such things, but in this day and age, couldn't a video be rigged in some way to show a long run of balls? I mean like splicing or somehow altering it imperceptibly to show a record being broken?

Seems somebody could just do something like this on his home table, and put it on Youtube?
 
Fatboy said:
I know what you mean, I got to 8 the other night and was tired so I had to stop, and the night before I got to 11 and missed-i was so pissed off I kicked the wall and broke my foot.:grin:
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Yeah, 11 is where a lot of guys can just sense another 515 are on the way. It's tough.
 
In all of pool 526 is THE record. A straight pool high run doesn't require a worthy opponent. It transcends generations. 14.1 was still widely played and the measuring stick of greatness for 30 years and no one broke it. No one has come close.

Yes Irving Crane ran 309 on a much tougher 10 foot table... but are the extra two feet worth 217 balls? 309 is only 59% of the way there.

If someone could break the record they would.

Just sitting and counting to 526 is a pain in the ass.

It was important enough to that a notarized affidavit was written up. The affidavit still exists.

http://americanhistory.si.edu/archives/d9744.htm

http://americanhistory.si.edu/archives/images/d9744-4.jpg

I heard form a guy that a guy he knows heard about a guy that ran XXX balls one time... I don't buy story's of high runs at a tournament full of pool fans and no one took the time to watch.

Mosconi has irrefutable undisputed proof. He has the record. Until he is beat he ranks #1.

I repeat, if someone could break the record they would. Just To Have The Record.

Also for anyone wondering who would sit and watch the 54 year old record shatter... the line starts after me.
 
I like the DCC idea of the 8' challenge. That way they have many days to try and break 526
 
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JCIN said:
If there was a $1,000,000 prize for doing it I think it would fall within a year. Barring something along those lines I just do not see someone putting forth the time and effort.

I would love to see John Schmidt put a 4x8 and video camera in his house and shoot at it. I think he could do it. The return on investment of time and mental anguish is questionable however. Could you imagine having a ball skid on 526 ? A guy might go jump off a bridge :D
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Right you are, Justin. There is no question that Schmidt could run in excess of 526 on a 4 x 8 with bucket pockets. I suspect he'd get that done within 3 days time! There are probably 10 guys today who could beat that record quickly on the easy equipment.

Doc
 
MoonshineMattK said:
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Yes Irving Crane ran 309 on a much tougher 10 foot table... but are the extra two feet worth 217 balls? 309 is only 59% of the way there.
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In my view, of the two records, Crane's 309 on a tougher 5 x 10 is the one that will never be broken, although I believe there are guys that might be able to do it if they had access to the equipment.

Although the 5 x 10 playing surface (6050 square inches) is 1-1/2 times the playing surface of a 4 x 8 (4050 square inches), the 5 x 10 is almost exponentially tougher than is a 4 x 8. In other words the larger table is more than 1-1/2 times more difficult on which to achieve a high ball run.

Crane's record has always been far more impressive to me than Mosconi's.

Doc
 
average distance from the pocket and pocket size

Doc,

I suspect when you calculate average distance from the pocket and the size of the pockets that the angle of acceptable accuracy gets mighty small on that five by ten. I used to practice banks on a snooker table including long rail banks. Although I made six in a row many times that was my record. It just seemed impossible for me to maintain the level of focus needed for longer than that. I know Crane had to have some tough shots in that 309 plus you have to be constantly aware of being able to reach the next shot. That is one thing not mentioned about Mosconi's run on a 4x8, it is a lot easier to work on a 4x8 than a 4.5x9 and much much easier than working on a five by ten.

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gulfportdoc said:
In my view, of the two records, Crane's 309 on a tougher 5 x 10 is the one that will never be broken, although I believe there are guys that might be able to do it if they had access to the equipment.

Although the 5 x 10 playing surface (6050 square inches) is 1-1/2 times the playing surface of a 4 x 8 (4050 square inches), the 5 x 10 is almost exponentially tougher than is a 4 x 8. In other words the larger table is more than 1-1/2 times more difficult on which to achieve a high ball run.

Crane's record has always been far more impressive to me than Mosconi's.

Doc
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wahcheck said:
Now that's one record I didn't know about.....more than astounding, it's incredible.........I wonder if the foul line distance and size of hoop and basketball were "regulation"........

My God, you get any professional to try and make 500 in a row, let alone 5,000!
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Yes, it was regulation size and distance. I saw Ted St. Martin give an exhibition once. He was just a farmer who had an incredible ability to shoot a basketball accurately from just about any distance. He shot two handed, and shot the same way every single time.

They had a challenge portion to the exhibition where you got to shoot 10 free throws to see if you could beat him. I hit 9 out of 10 and he stepped up and sank 10 in a row in about 20 seconds.

He also once made 1,704 free throws in a row during halftime at a Phoenix Suns game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_St._Martin

His record of 5,221 in a row took 7 hours and 20 minutes! He also made 84 in a row from 30 feet.

http://www.sharpshooterfreethrows.com/about.html
 
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