could 526 be broken?

Snapshot9 said:
be broken anytime soon. A good run comes on its own. If you plan to break the record, it will never happen.

When I ran 11 racks of 9 ball, I wasn't counting, my opponents were though.
It was a 3 man ring game, $50 a man per game, and I was down $1,500 before the run.

11 RACKS! WOW!
That's VERY sporty shooting.

You almost got even.:mad:
Did the other players just quit because they didn't want to see you string any more racks and get even? :wink: j/k
JoeyA
 
Once

I thought I saw a listing of high scores once.

I would be curious to see the high scores of the "masters" of straight.

Ray Martin, Miz, Rempe, Allen, Petey, etc. These eastern boys were born and raised on it.

Does anyone have that somewhere?

Thanks.

ken
 
why

why is it important to "break" that record?

I mean, it's one of the stats which exemplifies Mosconi's greatness.....if some-body broke it, would it take away from Mosconi's stature? Seems I read somewhere he himself said the run didn't stop 'cause he missed, but he quit because he got tired....whether or not that's true, I think he was letting his ego out at the time....

Some guy named Eufemia purportedly broke the record, but it wasn't "recognized"....

Even if somebody ran 1000 balls someday, I would still consider Mosconi to be the greatest straight pool player of all time..........and that's just IMHO...
 
wahcheck said:
why is it important to "break" that record?

I mean, it's one of the stats which exemplifies Mosconi's greatness.....if some-body broke it, would it take away from Mosconi's stature? Seems I read somewhere he himself said the run didn't stop 'cause he missed, but he quit because he got tired....whether or not that's true, I think he was letting his ego out at the time....

Some guy named Eufemia purportedly broke the record, but it wasn't "recognized"....

Even if somebody ran 1000 balls someday, I would still consider Mosconi to be the greatest straight pool player of all time..........and that's just IMHO...


When I was about 8 years old, I played pool for the first time. When I got home, I immediately grabbed my Guiness Book of World Records and looked up "pool" in the index. It said, "See Billiards". I looked it up and saw "Willie Mosconi, 526 consecutive balls pocketed." The record may be a bit out-dated. It may have little relevance to today's game however, it is the answer to the great question, "What's the most number of balls someone has made without missing?" which is really the first thing any non-poolplayer asks. I knew the name "Mosconi" before I could pocket one ball in a row.
 
ShootingArts said:
That is a high run I don't remember hearing about and illustrates my point in my post to Scott. Most high runs aren't set in conditions acceptable to all so they are only remembered by a few and mostly forgotten.

I'd like to see a new high run set on a nine foot table with standard range pockets. That would give people an apples to apples record to shoot for.

Thanks for the info.

Hu

What I don't understand is hwy is Mosconi's record considered official if it was on the 4x8. There have been many I would think who could have challenged that.

I'm not saying it's not impressive, but far from the most impressive things I've seen or heard about.

But with what it is, A lot of things would have to go the shooters way, I don't care if it happened on 2 ft pockets. As I heard Freddy say one time, The amazing thing is shooting that long and not scratching.
 
thebighurt said:
There has to be incentive. $ 200,000 maybe even $ 100,000 and I think it would fall within 3 months. Put up enough money and Efren might put the time in.

Firstly, who is going to put the money up, actually few care. @ndly, who is going to watch it?
 
wahcheck said:
why is it important to "break" that record?

I mean, it's one of the stats which exemplifies Mosconi's greatness.....if some-body broke it, would it take away from Mosconi's stature? Seems I read somewhere he himself said the run didn't stop 'cause he missed, but he quit because he got tired....whether or not that's true, I think he was letting his ego out at the time....

Some guy named Eufemia purportedly broke the record, but it wasn't "recognized"....

Even if somebody ran 1000 balls someday, I would still consider Mosconi to be the greatest straight pool player of all time..........and that's just IMHO...

Of course,,,, on a 4x8.
 
ironman said:
Firstly, who is going to put the money up, actually few care. @ndly, who is going to watch it?


It's so hard to say who would watch it since pool is so poorly displayed on tv compared to other sports.


Just food for thought:

1. Imagine if football games only used two or three fixed cameras
2. Imagine if televised poker tournaments didn't reveal hands
3. Imagine if baseball games displayed no statistics other than the score


Many of the successfully televised sports have done A LOT for the viewer. I'm not saying it translates well for pool but I am saying there's a lot of room for improvement.
 
promotion

The big reason that Mosconi's record is considered official is that it was heavily promoted and widely known. Seems like affidavits were collected from watchers too.

However, like you, I don't see any particular reason that the run on somewhat oddball equipment should be the official record. It is a lot like setting a basketball free throw record at a closer distance using a bigger hoop. This is one of those cases where our opinion doesn't matter however. To hold the record of the highest run ever someone has to beat 526 and do it at a public event. What is tougher, they have to have witnesses that claim to have sat through every minute of it.

Hu


ironman said:
What I don't understand is hwy is Mosconi's record considered official if it was on the 4x8. There have been many I would think who could have challenged that.

I'm not saying it's not impressive, but far from the most impressive things I've seen or heard about.

But with what it is, A lot of things would have to go the shooters way, I don't care if it happened on 2 ft pockets. As I heard Freddy say one time, The amazing thing is shooting that long and not scratching.
 
He doesn't get mentioned in threads like this very much but Babe Cranfield claimed several runs in excess of Mosconi's. Others have claimed he had a handful in the 600 range...but without video footage or a signed afidavit 100 names long...
 
mosconiac said:
He doesn't get mentioned in threads like this very much but Babe Cranfield claimed several runs in excess of Mosconi's. Others have claimed he had a handful in the 600 range...but without video footage or a signed afidavit 100 names long...

I've heard from the guys in Syracuse that they had affidavits and still couldn't get Babe's run of over 600 in the record books. I don't know how many signatures they had.
Now that I think on it, it seems to me that they didn't have anyone who saw it from start to finish. I'm not sure.
 
wahcheck said:
Seems I read somewhere he himself said the run didn't stop 'cause he missed, but he quit because he got tired....whether or not that's true, I think he was letting his ego out at the time....

Mosconi was pretty good at letting his ego out. Of course, he had the accomplishments to back it up.
 
JCIN said:
If there was a $1,000,000 prize for doing it I think it would fall within a year. Barring something along those lines I just do not see someone putting forth the time and effort.

I would love to see John Schmidt put a 4x8 and video camera in his house and shoot at it. I think he could do it. The return on investment of time and mental anguish is questionable however. Could you imagine having a ball skid on 526 ? A guy might go jump off a bridge :D


I'm suprised that 526 hasnt been broken.


John should do it, he could parlay that feat into something good for himself. Nobody will put up the $$$ for it anyways. If I played like John I would make an effort and take a shot at it, he would know after a few months if he could do it or not. Knowing your capable of it and not doing it is a waste of talent. If he can do it he should make it happen, his "Stock" sure would go up, he could cash in on it strong, look at the 526 it is still the talk of the town 40 something years later.
 
TX Poolnut said:
The thought that no pros capable of getting close to 500 don't care enough to try to break the record without a paycheck, makes me sad.

If I could get close to 400 or 500, I'd do it just to make history. I wouldn't need to be paid 10 cents to do it.


its just dumb not to break it, any good biz man would look at that oppertunity and make the most of it. Its a lock for how ever beats it-they will have more oppertunitys to make $$$, If I ran 600 I would go to every media outlet and say i broke Mosconi's record, Jay Leno or someone would pick it up. That would help pool. If there is someone capable of running it they owe it to pool to break it and promote pool. The take,take, take mentality is raping pool of any future.
 
ShootingArts said:
It is a lot like setting a basketball free throw record at a closer distance using a bigger hoop.
Hu

Speaking of which, the actual record for consecutive free throws is an astounding 5,221 by Ted St. Martin.
 
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