I have never seen so much trouble getting balls frozen using the magic rack... Since they are using the Cyclops balls is that the issue? I thought they were supposed to be tighter tolerances than the Aramiths???
CSI 10 Ball...... Magic SlugRack?
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It's not the balls. They have made the MR too flimsy... this generation of it. The balls don't have any support, so they just lean where ever. The film/material they use is too thin by at least 5 thousands. Johnnyt
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I agree. They made it thinner but did not make the holes smaller so you got balls that can shift.
Thanks.. Did not know they had changed materials... A slow rolling ba is still going to turn even if it's as thin as a human hair so I am not sure why they did that unless there was some cost/manufacturing benefit
I know what you're saying, but the material is so thin it buckles if there is ANY nap at all on the cloth. JUNK. Johnnyt
and it just goes on and on and on...month after month, year after year, decade after decade...
And I would still prefer to suffer thru it over your solution Paul... Your way is akin to playing golf and instead of driving the ball from the tee you walk out 300 yards and place your ball in the center of the fairway... You say the break is all luck and I say if it was then you would't have the guys who break better winning the matches and tournaments in most instances....
The next evolution of your idea should be just to set the balls up exactly the same for each person since the layout has luck involved....
I know it works for your tournament and some people may agree with you... I am going to ask Fleming about maybe doing straight pool but let the guys run all 15 and break the balls wide open and keep shooting regardless of making a ball on the break... So many times a player gets unlucky and scratches off the pack or gets stuck in the middle of it just from bad luck.. I think we will se Mosconi's record shattered in the next event........
Not even close. There is enormous skill in controlling the cue-ball, controlling the 1-ball, and hitting the balls hard enough to get a good spread. Nobody places anything. Just get rid of the problem.
By the way, nobody carries on about the 14.1 break. No problem there. It is ok the way it is if that is if that is what you want to play.
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Definitely skill in controlling both the CB and the 1 ball.
You know what takes even more skill?
Doing the above AND making a ball.
I'm not sure what the problem is. I've seen more goofy things on that table over the last three days than I've seen in the last 30 pro natches I've watched. Balls not freezing with the MR with brand new balls and new cloth. Multiple odd roll offs on slowly hit balls. Also on some shots it seems the cueball takes off faster than it should and picks up speed causing guys to way overrun their positions. After the last match last night Dechaine was swearing that the cueball was out of round lol.
You realize that CSI owns Magic Rack, don't you? (I believe I am correct on this)
This isn't the first time folks have had issues with it. People are even trying to unload them in the F/S forum. The cutouts 'wear' over time, and given what their main purpose is, and the fact that racks are not sitting tightly, why would you continue to spend all the time it takes to use them until they're fixed? On a side note, I'm not so sure it's the racks themselves at times, but rather the mating of the rack with the table and cloth isn't perfect due to foreign matter such as dirt and chalk. This keeps the rack from laying perfectly flat and that will cause loose racks as well, in theory.
The whole purpose of the rack is so you don't have to fiddle with it once you rack the balls. If you do, then what is the point, or more to the point...which would be quicker at that point, the magic rack or a regular rack given the time it takes to mess with the magic rack?
You are not correct on this.
CSI is the North American distributer. Johnnyt
There's no question, IMO - the magic rack gets to a tighter rack more quickly than a triangle.
It's not a question of whether they're automatic or perfect. Its how they compare to triangles in speed, consistency, and tightness. I think they're superior in every way.
As evidenced by all the fiddling and complaining this weekend, right?