CTE (Center To Edge) or NOT

CENTER TO EDGE or NOT

  • I use CTE (Center to Edge).

    Votes: 36 31.0%

  • I do not use CTE (Center to Edge).

    Votes: 80 69.0%
  • Total voters
    116
  • Poll closed .
ShootingArts said:
I can't see edges anymore making CTE tough I suspect. Gonna talk to you about it next time we meet though.

Hu
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Anytime Hu. I don't know much about aiming systems but a Miller Lite will make me reveal the real secret of CTE. :grin:
JoeyA
 
Sounds like a plan!

JoeyA said:
Anytime Hu. I don't know much about aiming systems but a Miller Lite will make me reveal the real secret of CTE. :grin:
JoeyA
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Sounds like a plan. Past due getting together anyway but these danged visitors we have been getting from Africa have been keeping me stepping and fetching plus the machine shop has been busy.

Hu
 
Pii said:
Whats CTE.............
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I'm no expert, but it is a way to approach EVERY cut shot from the same reference point (ie. center of cue ball, and edge of object ball....CTE).....not straight ins, or slight cuts........

thats as short as I can think to explain it......next would come volumes on how it really works.....which I think it does, but I don't know how.

yet
 
I honestly cannot make balls with any sort of consistancy if I conciously think about half ball, quarter ball, contact points, fractions...whatever. This type of thinking only tightens me up...it just feels completely unnatural to me.

The emptier my head is, the better I play. I conciously think only about patterns, strategy, etc...at least, that's what I'm trying to do.

Just my 2 cents
 
Gerry said:
I'm no expert, but it is a way to approach EVERY cut shot from the same reference point (ie. center of cue ball, and edge of object ball....CTE).....not straight ins, or slight cuts........

thats as short as I can think to explain it......next would come volumes on how it really works.....which I think it does, but I don't know how.

yet
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Hello,

You can use CTE for slight cuts and straight in shots! For the last month or two I have been shooting almost every shot with CTE and I've been pretty happy with my potting success.
 
Hello Dave(spidey),

I noticed when I line up pre pivot, I visualize ETC. I use the edge of the cueball to the OB center, I find it easier to find the line and then body pivot. Does visualizing ETC change anything, effect the variables of the system? I would think not?

J.W.
 
JAW725 said:
Hello Dave(spidey),

I noticed when I line up pre pivot, I visualize ETC. I use the edge of the cueball to the OB center, I find it easier to find the line and then body pivot. Does visualizing ETC change anything, effect the variables of the system? I would think not?

J.W.
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It really doesn't. I lock onto CTE with my torso and position my right foot on one side of the line or other. I prefer CTE because I'm "positioning" based on where the CTE line exits the back of the CB to my body. I use the ETC line as a double-check verification.

Your way is fine...make sure CTE is your double-check verification.

Dave
 
I determine the cut angle and aim at the correct point on the OB (or off the edge of the OB for >30 deg cuts).

No imaginary lines, no pivots, no controversy.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
It really doesn't. I lock onto CTE with my torso and position my right foot on one side of the line or other. I prefer CTE because I'm "positioning" based on where the CTE line exits the back of the CB to my body. I use the ETC line as a double-check verification.

Your way is fine...make sure CTE is your double-check verification.

Dave
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What's CTE again?
 
It looks like one in three people use CTE. That surprises me. I would have guessed a lower percentage than that.

Anyway thanks for the votes.
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
It looks like one in three people use CTE. That surprises me. I would have guessed a lower percentage than that.

Anyway thanks for the votes.
JoeyA
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I'm almost certain that the percentage is quite a bit lower than the poll reflects at the moment. What we often fail to take into consideration on polls such as this, is that one particular side is often more motivated to respond than the other.

In this case, CTE users are generally very interested in increasing the awareness and acceptability of their systems in the mainstream pool world and would be far more likely to vote. Those that aim by feel or ghost ball are more likely to just think "yeah I aim like most of the rest of the pool world, so what", and would generally be less motivated to offer their opinion or to vote.
 
Poolplaya9 said:
I'm almost certain that the percentage is quite a bit lower than the poll reflects at the moment. What we often fail to take into consideration on polls such as this, is that one particular side is often more motivated to respond than the other.

In this case, CTE users are generally very interested in increasing the awareness and acceptability of their systems in the mainstream pool world and would be far more likely to vote. Those that aim by feel or ghost ball are more likely to just think "yeah I aim like most of the rest of the pool world, so what", and would generally be less motivated to offer their opinion or to vote.
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I think I agree. If you take EEEEVERYONE who hits this board as a member, I'm guessing maybe 10% user CTE... and that might be high.

You have to figure most people play the way they were brought up.... ghost ball or feel.
 
I just aim and shoot and the ball goes in.
There is no deep pondering going on wondering what type of system i used to aim the ball.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I'd like to see a poll of the top 10 in the world and how they aim. That's what's important to me.
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Here is an article where dozens of pros talk about how they aim, and many of them were top 10 pros.
http://www.sfbilliards.com/PnB_aiming.pdf

Only two of the pros that are mentioned appear to use a form of CTE aiming. One is Efren, and the other is Nesli O'Hare, who happened to have been taught by Efren to use his system.

I did not count Sammy Jones because he only spoke of the two shots at the extreme ends of the spectrum, and many people that do not use any CTE happen to think of those two particular shots in the exact same way. I also did not count Ray Martin as a CTE guy because what he is talking about is seperating the cue ball into at least 32 parts (and possibly an infinite number), and only using one spot on the object ball that always remains the same (I would have to assume he is talking about the contact point). He posts here for time to time so maybe he will clarify if needed.

Although far from being complete, I think the sampling in the article was large enough to determine that only a small percentage of the pros use a CTE aiming method.
 
Poolplaya9 said:
I'm almost certain that the percentage is quite a bit lower than the poll reflects at the moment. What we often fail to take into consideration on polls such as this, is that one particular side is often more motivated to respond than the other.

In this case, CTE users are generally very interested in increasing the awareness and acceptability of their systems in the mainstream pool world and would be far more likely to vote. Those that aim by feel or ghost ball are more likely to just think "yeah I aim like most of the rest of the pool world, so what", and would generally be less motivated to offer their opinion or to vote.
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Very good point. REP coming your way.
JoeyA
 
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