CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett

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dr_dave said:
Agreed. We still don't have a clue what Pro-One is. All we do know is that it is a version of CTE; although, I'm not even sure about this, based on what we have heard so far. It will be nice to have something concrete to discuss after Stan's DVD comes out. Until then, any discussion and debate concerning Pro-One is meaningless, IMO. However, if Pro-One is based on CTE, then much of the discussion and debate to date has been pertinent ... but we still don't know.

Regards,
Dave

PS: By "we," I mean the collective AZB community. People who have had private lessons with Stan are the exception. They presumably know what Pro-One is but are not allowed to described it to anyone.
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I had a private lesson with Stan, don't recall him saying don't describe it to anyone, that would be my choice. PRO-ONE is the final chapter of CTE.imo
 
cookie man said:
dr_dave said:
Agreed. We still don't have a clue what Pro-One is. All we do know is that it is a version of CTE; although, I'm not even sure about this, based on what we have heard so far. It will be nice to have something concrete to discuss after Stan's DVD comes out. Until then, any discussion and debate concerning Pro-One is meaningless, IMO. However, if Pro-One is based on CTE, then much of the discussion and debate to date has been pertinent ... but we still don't know.

Regards,
Dave

PS: By "we," I mean the collective AZB community. People who have had private lessons with Stan are the exception. They presumably know what Pro-One is but can't (or refuse to) describe it to anyone.
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I had a private lesson with Stan, don't recall him saying don't describe it to anyone, that would be my choice.
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Your point is well taken, and I have edited my post to be more appropriate.

cookie man said:
PRO-ONE is the final chapter of CTE.imo
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I sincerely hope you are right.

Regards,
Dave
 
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Neil said:
... NO ONE is saying that you NEVER need to consider where the pocket is. You need to know it's general location so you know if you need a thin or a thick lineup. But, you do not need to know it's exact location.
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But they say you do need to know the precise location of your chair afterward. Any truth to that?

Jim...I'll take anything at this point!
 
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Jal said:
But they say you do need to know the precise location of your chair afterward. Any truth to that?

Jim
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ah, man. This keyboard is never going to be the same...

Lou Figueroa
good one
damnit
but a good one
nonetheless
 
Jal said:
But they say you do need to know the precise location of your chair afterward. Any truth to that?

Jim...I'll take anything at this point!
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Yes there is! Because it wil be so long before you need it, you might forget which one was yours when you finally do need it!:D
 
dr_dave said:
Your point is well taken, and I have edited my post to be more appropriate.

I sincerely hope you are right.

Regards,
Dave
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Thank you but wasn't necessary. I think it's the same with any info, yea I paid for it and I have the right too discuss it if I want, or not too if I want. I definatly respect Stan way way too much to discuss it on here.
 
dr_dave said:
Your point is well taken, and I have edited my post to be more appropriate.

I sincerely hope you are right.

Regards,
Dave
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And I sincerely hope you are wrong. I would hate to think that we have reached the end of the road. Years from now, here's hoping that players have continued to refine what we are doing, and develop even newer and better ways to approach the game.

One of the things I love best being an instructor is that I am constantly learning new things. I hope the trend continues.

Steve
 
pooltchr said:
And I sincerely hope you are wrong. I would hate to think that we have reached the end of the road. Years from now, here's hoping that players have continued to refine what we are doing, and develop even newer and better ways to approach the game.
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Steve,

I was just joking about the "final chapter" because that's how cookie_man described "Pro-One." It sounds like "Same-Aim" is also a "chapter" in the illustrious CTE "book." Based on past experience, I'm sure we have a long future ahead with many more "chapters" of CTE.

Regards,
Dave
 
I am glad to see the atmosphere changing.
I have NO issue with Lou,PJ or Dr Dave for that matter.
I got hung up in the sh1t slinging. For that I apologize
Petey
 
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Lou:
[GMT] wasn't on any mission other than to show that you can't have an aiming system without taking into account where the frippin' pockets are. That was the only mission he was on. Intellectually it amazed him that so many could be bamboozled.
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Neil:
MANY,MANY times, he was informed that he was wrong in this statement.
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Problem is, he was right in that statement.
Neil:
NO ONE is saying that you NEVER need to consider where the pocket is. You need to know it's general location so you know if you need a thin or a thick lineup. But, you do not need to know it's exact location.
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Problem is, that's impossible. So obviously impossible that it boggles the mind you could reach adulthood without knowing it.

Although GMT is an ass, he's absolutely right about this, and all of you are absolutely wrong, no matter how well CTE works for you or how many mindless videos Spidey posts or how nice a guy Hal or Stan is or what the price of tea in China is.

(How many CTErs do you think read this and only heard "CTE doesn't work"?)

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Problem is, he was right in that statement.

Problem is, that's impossible. So obviously impossible that it boggles the mind you could reach adulthood without knowing it.

Although GMT is an ass, he's absolutely right about this, and all of you are absolutely wrong, no matter how well CTE works for you or how many mindless videos Spidey posts or how nice a guy Hal or Stan is or what the price of tea in China is.

(How many CTErs do you think read this and only heard "CTE doesn't work"?)

pj
chgo
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Did you or GMT include the ROTATION aspect of CTE in your analysis?
It is a big part. Eyes and body. I just cant understand how one can say.....I Have Done The Math, Without lnowing the
correct variables
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
Problem is, he was right in that statement.

Problem is, that's impossible. So obviously impossible that it boggles the mind you could reach adulthood without knowing it.

Although GMT is an ass, he's absolutely right about this, and all of you are absolutely wrong, no matter how well CTE works for you or how many mindless videos Spidey posts or how nice a guy Hal or Stan is or what the price of tea in China is.

(How many CTErs do you think read this and only heard "CTE doesn't work"?)

pj
chgo
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Ok, so you say this is a system of pocketing balls but not an aiming system? that is your argument?
 
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This is still going on because these PJ,GMT,LOU guys pick and choose what they want to answer and will go off topic to avoid easy direct questions.It just boggles the mind how these guys think they are so bright. lol
 
peteypooldude said:
Did you or GMT include the ROTATION aspect of CTE in your analysis?
It is a big part. Eyes and body. I just cant understand how one can say.....I Have Done The Math, Without lnowing the
correct variables
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It has nothing to do with "The Math", and it isn't only about CTE (or, for that matter, only about pool). It's just the simple logical fact that you can't hit a precise target without somehow calculating or knowing precisely where it is. If your aiming information is only as specific as "thick or thin", then your resulting aim can only be as accurate as "thick or thin".

It doesn't take any math or even knowing the specifics of the system to know this without a doubt. This is very basic and simple logic that applies to pool, basketball, target shooting or anything else involving aiming.

It truly amazes me that this needs to be explained.

pj
chgo
 
Neil said:
Yes there is! Because it wil be so long before you need it, you might forget which one was yours when you finally do need it!:D
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Touche!

Neil, you guys are sharp, as witnessed by you're invariably coming up with a defense of the indefensible. I marvel. So may I suggest that you profitably spend the next ten years (about the time this thread is wrapping up) earning a Phd in math, then using the high-school part of that to rid yourselves of these anomalies in your thought processes. Heaven knows, I've got quite a few myself, but the doctors say nothing can be done. At least you guys have a definite therapeutic regime available, and one which would take less time than getting a straight answer from Hal or Dave S. I am green with envy. :) :) :)

Jim
 
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