CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett

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Patrick Johnson said:
It has nothing to do with "The Math", and it isn't only about CTE (or, for that matter, only about pool). It's just the simple logical fact that you can't hit a precise target without somehow calculating or knowing precisely where it is. If your aiming information is only as specific as "thick or thin", then your resulting aim can only be as accurate as "thick or thin".

It doesn't take any math or even knowing the specifics of the system to know this without a doubt. This is very basic and simple logic that applies to pool, basketball, target shooting or anything else involving aiming.

It truly amazes me that this needs to be explained.

pj
chgo
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ohhhh i now see where you are coming from! please dont respond to any of my posts directed at you. lol
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
It has nothing to do with "The Math", and it isn't only about CTE (or, for that matter, only about pool). It's just the simple logical fact that you can't hit a precise target without somehow calculating or knowing precisely where it is. If your aiming information is only as specific as "thick or thin", then your resulting aim can only be as accurate as "thick or thin".

It doesn't take any math or even knowing the specifics of the system to know this without a doubt. This is very basic and simple logic that applies to pool, basketball, target shooting or anything else involving aiming.

It truly amazes me that this needs to be explained.

pj
chgo
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Pat, I actually DO know just where you are coming from. First, let me say that the other aiming examples you gave, you would be correct. However, for this aiming system, on a pool table, you are wrong. I know exactly how you feel. You are pulling your hair out because we can't see the obvious. The problem is, you are seeing it from a scewed viewpoint. From YOUR viewpoint, with the other sports, you are correct.

Now, I have no idea what the math would be for this, or how to figure it out. But, I am convinced that the math would explain it. I am convinced of that because of the simple fact that it works. Therefore, the math has to be there somewhere.

If you would simply give it an honest try, then you would see what we are saying, what part you are missing, and then go from there.
 
dr_dave said:
... We still don't have a clue what Pro-One is. All we do know is that it is a version of CTE; although, I'm not even sure about this, based on what we have heard so far. ...
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Quoting Stan, from an earlier post of his:

"Constant left to right pivoting for right-handed players is the major variation of PRO ONE from Hal’s method of CTE. For lefties, the pivot would always be from right to left."​

So I'd say the "One" in the name of the technique relates to always pivoting from one side (rather than from two sides under CTE).
 
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AtLarge said:
Quoting Stan, from an earlier post of his:

"Constant left to right pivoting for right-handed players is the major variation of PRO ONE from Hal’s method of CTE. For lefties, the pivot would always be from right to left."​

So I'd say the "One" in the title relates to always pivoting from one side (rather than from two sides under CTE).
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I pivot from 1 side only. Left to right I am right handed
I had help thouigh . Before the help, I pivoted from both
I am looking forward to getting my DVD and getting Stans input
Fellow players are taking notice to the change in my game.
I never thought it possible for a 41 yr old , 20 plus year player could gain that
last ball I needed to upset great players
 
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Neil said:
Pat, I actually DO know just where you are coming from. First, let me say that the other aiming examples you gave, you would be correct. However, for this aiming system, on a pool table, you are wrong. I know exactly how you feel. You are pulling your hair out because we can't see the obvious. The problem is, you are seeing it from a scewed viewpoint. From YOUR viewpoint, with the other sports, you are correct.

Now, I have no idea what the math would be for this, or how to figure it out. But, I am convinced that the math would explain it. I am convinced of that because of the simple fact that it works. Therefore, the math has to be there somewhere.
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Unless it works for a reason other than "the math". That's the possibility you seem unwilling to consider, even though "the math" apparently doesn't explain it for you either.

If you would simply give it an honest try, then you would see what we are saying, what part you are missing, and then go from there.
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Give what a try? The reason I can't see what you're saying is that you're not saying anything. And don't bother telling me again that it's "available" - I'm not going to Kentucky or shelling out $40 for something that can't be described at least well enough to not sound ridiculous.

pj
chgo

P.S. Thanks for the calm reply.
 
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Stans Site Now Accepting Pre-Orders Of CTE/Pro One

I just checked Stans Website & found that he is set up to accept Pre-Payment by PayPal or credit card for the Pro One DVD.
The release date will be announced in early Dec.

His website is at:
http://www.justcueit.com/

Ordered mine, so now it's just a matter of waiting.
Looks like a long couple of weeks, but I'm looking forward to getting it.
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
Unless it works for a reason other than "the math". That's the possibility you seem unwilling to consider, even though "the math" apparently doesn't explain it for you either.


Give what a try? The reason I can't see what you're saying is that you're not saying anything. And don't bother telling me again that it's "available" - I'm not going to Kentucky or shelling out $40 for something that can't be described at least well enough to not sound ridiculous.

pj
chgo

P.S. Thanks for the calm reply.
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This is a lost cause that should be left to sleep for 1000 years guys. This ego was built to be right 100% of the time and would choose death rather than admit he is wrong.

cte doesn’t work because it can’t work, and it can’t work because i don’t understand how it possibly could work. <<< pj,lou,gmt
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
... I'm not going to Kentucky or shelling out $40 for something that can't be described at least well enough to not sound ridiculous.
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After fighting the good fight for all these years, you don't even want a peek at the video? That's harder to believe than "It works!". :D

Best,
Mike
 
champ2107:
cte doesn’t work because it can’t work, and it can’t work because i don’t understand how it possibly could work. <<< pj,lou,gmt
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If this simple point is really so completely over the heads of CTE users, what does that say about CTE?

pj <- think I already said it...
chgo
 
champ2107 said:
Have you even considered that fact you may be wrong and this is completely over your head, honestly? i am serious by the way.
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Have I considered the possibility that the natural laws of our universe have been suspended for CTE? Believe it or not, that seems less likely to me than the possibility that some AzB aiming system believers are logically challenged.

There's obviously no point in pursuing this - as Lou says, were clubbing baby seals here.

pj <- at least we're hitting 'em where they can't feel it
chgo
 
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Your ego was built to be right 100% of the time and you would choose death rather than admit your ever wrong.

cte doesn’t work because it can’t work, and it can’t work because i don’t understand how it possibly could work. <<< pj,lou,gmt

i get to repost :thumbup:
 
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champ2107 said:
Your ego was built to be right 100% of the time and you would choose death rather than admit your ever wrong.

cte doesn’t work because it can’t work, and it can’t work because i don’t understand how it possibly could work. <<< pj,lou,gmt

i get to repost :thumbup:
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Bingo!! Spot on!! :groucho::groucho::groucho::groucho::groucho:

(5 Groucho's trumps 10 stars!!!!!)
 
PocketPoint said:
I'm just saying, if there's so much value in CTE then a bunch of CTE players should be placing high in major tournaments. Maybe they are, I don't know what systems the top players use.

If CTE works so well, then go and win the US Open!
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Actually, that almost happened :cool:
 
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