CTE - Pro1 - RonV 90/90: All the same system (Long)

[pvc lou]

i'll second that.

Spidey's post does look and sound very informative and personable - but I don't understand a word of it.

I'm not trying to criticize Spidey or the systems he's describing - maybe they're easy to understand and work perfectly for those who do use them. I'm just saying Spidey's descriptions are totally Greek to me.

I only bring this up because I assume there are other readers who also don't understand but who are reluctant to say so because they don't want to look dumb (obviously that possibility doesn't bother me). Just letting them know they're not alone.

pj
chgo

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Spidey:

What's frustrating is that you think people are making balls through pure intuition...

Me:

I think intuition is a necessary final step, as I've said over and over.

Spidey:

How does your intuition on any shot make it better than 100 others intuition regardless of the method used?

I didn't say anything like that. What does it even mean?

Spidey:

Is everybody's intuition on the same wavelength? Is intuition transferrable or teachable?

What are you talking about? You get even less intelligible than usual when you're worked up.

Years ago on RSB when you were dispensing information as the guru of pool forums just as today, you preached something else to win your arguments, which is NOT what you've said over and over. Here's what you said:

Me from 12 years ago:

Trusting your intuition (or "left brain" or "instinct" or
being "in stroke" or whatever) too often means you're just letting these
unconscious mini-corrections cancel out other unconscious errors (in your
choir, some off-key singers are cancelling out some other off-key singers).

The short term result may be that you're making shots, but it's limiting (it only works with the shots you "know" and doesn't give you a knowledge base on which to build), unreliable (if you hit a slump, what caused it and how do you recover?), unteachable and probably some other things I haven't thought of today.

And PLEASE don't tell me this was 12 years ago and you've since learned differently and have evolved to be the "Great" player you are today because of intuition. This is 180 degrees from what you post today and was the final word back then from you.

I said then that I don't think total reliance on intuition is best - I say today that intuition is a necessary part of your system (and any aiming method). What's contradictory about those statements?

And, by the way, it doesn't sound to me like I was trying to win an argument back then - nor am I trying to win one now. Sounds to me like you're the one who wants to argue. Going back to another decade and another forum for a quote of mine in order to try to show me contradicting myself 12 years later is a good example of the "politics and hatred" you say gets in the way of knowledge.

Chill out, Dave.

pj
chgo

 

[cookie man]

Seek out Stan Shuffit at the DCC. His son Landan will be playing in the 9-ball, and I want no part of him.

I am always up for learning something new and I do believe that these systems work, just by watching Bustamante, he is definitely doing some type of pivot.

I guess one of the many parts that I dont understand is how do you decide how much you offset your initial addressing of the CB before the pivot. How do you decide how much depending on the angle of the cut.

Like I said before, I am dying to learn but have trouble grasping this stuff over the phone as I did talk to Hal a couple of times years ago, or by diagrams on the internet, it's confusing.

If anyone is going to be at the DCC this weekend and would not mind helping a brother out, let me know. I get there tonight and will be leaving on Sunday some time.

Joey

 

[crofftt]

The pivot thing

Hello,
I think I understand the CTE system as I see the pictures.
But the pivot swing is that always 1/2 ball ?

Want to make a "point" to point searchers ...A simpel way to know where to "contact" point is , is to follow this rule . The point on OB thats is the farthest from the pockt is your point.
You can control is by just play the OB straight in the pocket with you cue and look where you aim, its always the farthest point.
Having said that its useless to aim with your cue to that point cos your CB is round so you never gonna get that point without compensate .

you can easily control this by testing it out. Place a OB against the cousion and make a 90° shot, this means that both CB & OB have the thinnest contact to get in ...if you aim with your cue midball on the cueball you hit a half ball. If you are looking for contact points the more you gonna miss.

If you play pool or snooker you should be aibel to see in 3D cos you have the rounding of your ball but we see and think in 2D and you getting trapped everytime in aiming.

Hope you have something on this.