"CTE" South Carolina to Shreveport La

JoeyA said:
SPECIFICALLY, what "CTE marketing claims" do you have a problem with?

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Why not just answer the damned questions when they come up?

Of course, yours isn't a serious question. Otherwise you'd spend more time responding to questions about unproven and ridiculous claims than you would flopping around, claiming you've been attacked.

Ghost ball takes you and your game to the next level. It also connects to the geometry of the table. Most of the top pros use ghost ball. If you can't figure it out, you just aren't trying or don't want to. All of the ghost ball info is out there, but everyone should get a hold of me to clarify. There will also be some follow-up info, but not because the first info is incomplete. One of our resident ghost ballers will be along shortly to bark and not back it up.

Have a wonderful day.
 
Banks said:
Why not just answer the damned questions when they come up?

Of course, yours isn't a serious question. Otherwise you'd spend more time responding to questions about unproven and ridiculous claims than you would flopping around, claiming you've been attacked.

Ghost ball takes you and your game to the next level. It also connects to the geometry of the table. Most of the top pros use ghost ball. If you can't figure it out, you just aren't trying or don't want to. All of the ghost ball info is out there, but everyone should get a hold of me to clarify. There will also be some follow-up info, but not because the first info is incomplete. One of our resident ghost ballers will be along shortly to bark and not back it up.

Have a wonderful day.
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Banks, cut out the same garbage vomit that's been thrown out over the last 15 years.

WHAT QUESTIONS HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED WITHIN THIS LINK AFTER DVD1 AND DVD2 THAT ARE ALL FREE FOR THE TAKING? WHAT OTHER TOP PRO INSTRUCTOR PUTS THIS AMOUNT OF WORK INTO THEIR PROGRAM FOR FREE?!

https://www.youtube.com/user/stanandlandonshuffet

So what's the question? Guaranteed the answer is in THE LINK or DVD's.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Banks, cut out the same garbage vomit that's been thrown out over the last 15 years.

WHAT QUESTIONS HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED WITHIN THIS LINK AFTER DVD1 AND DVD2 THAT ARE ALL FREE FOR THE TAKING? WHAT OTHER TOP PRO INSTRUCTOR PUTS THIS AMOUNT OF WORK INTO THEIR PROGRAM FOR FREE?!

https://www.youtube.com/user/stanandlandonshuffet

So what's the question? Guaranteed the answer is in THE LINK or DVD's.
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Those are some basic issues that, to my knowledge, have never been addressed. I really don't care about the link. From all of the sidestepping and flat out ignoring of these issues, coupled with the unrelenting marketing, i just toss the entire thing into the garbage pile.

Your question has been addressed, too. Like that answer?
 
Patrick Johnson said:
You mean "it's aiming from another dimension that was never supposed to be" doesn't do it for you? How closed minded can you be?

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Pretty close-minded. Just ask me my stance on mustard! :eek:

Ok, I've got a long drive ahead of me.. I'll be back later to catch up on all of the new rehash. :thumbup:
 
Banks said:
Those are some basic issues that, to my knowledge, have never been addressed. I really don't care about the link. From all of the sidestepping and flat out ignoring of these issues, coupled with the unrelenting marketing, i just toss the entire thing into the garbage pile.

Your question has been addressed, too. Like that answer?
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Basic issues to your knowledge?? You HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE. Whatever you're talking about are in the DVD's and THE LINKS.

https://www.youtube.com/user/stanandlandonshuffet

Yep, I love the answer. You've shown yourself to be nothing more than a CLUELESS hating CTE troll who can't answer questions addressed to you when asked. It's called hypocrisy.

If it's in the garbage pile, then go on with your life as it is and everyone will be happy.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Basic issues to your knowledge?? You HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE. Whatever you're talking about are in the DVD's and THE LINKS.

https://www.youtube.com/user/stanandlandonshuffet

Yep, I love the answer. You've shown yourself to be nothing more than a CLUELESS hating CTE troll who can't answer questions addressed to you when asked. It's called hypocrisy.

If it's in the garbage pile, then go on with your life as it is and everyone will be happy.
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Blah blah blah.

Just answer the simple question..

Where's the data to show that cte "connects to the geometry of the table"?

If I'm a troll, y'all are scammers.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
You mean "it's aiming from another dimension that was never supposed to be" doesn't do it for you? How closed minded can you be?

pj
chgo
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Take it here, TROLL. https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/burea.../our-divisions/division-advertising-practices

Still haven't seen you put anything on video to prove exactly which part fits your description, Mr. Gutless Wonder.

And to keep the OP in the forefront, Stevie Moore posted:

Headed to Louisiana Tuesday June 16 for the bar table tourney there in Shreveport and am in need of making a few dollars to pay for my expenses. Anyone in or around this area or on the way to Shreveport I would love to do a group of 2-4 or one on one training in center-to edge aiming. This information will take you and your game to next level. GUARANTEED!!! PM me and let's get you started on the strongest perceptual pool playing journey of your life.

Please email me at stevietheblade@gmail.com for scheduling as I don't frequent this site.
 
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Banks said:
Blah blah blah.

Just answer the simple question..

Where's the data to show that cte "connects to the geometry of the table"?

If I'm a troll, y'all are scammers.
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The data is more balls go in the pockets when Stan, Landon, and Stevie are using CTE as it's prescribed to connect to the geometry of the table than you at the table playing any game with whatever you use.

You like that answer?


And to keep the OP in the forefront, Stevie Moore posted:

Headed to Louisiana Tuesday June 16 for the bar table tourney there in Shreveport and am in need of making a few dollars to pay for my expenses. Anyone in or around this area or on the way to Shreveport I would love to do a group of 2-4 or one on one training in center-to edge aiming. This information will take you and your game to next level. GUARANTEED!!! PM me and let's get you started on the strongest perceptual pool playing journey of your life.

Please email me at stevietheblade@gmail.com for scheduling as I don't frequent this site.




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SpiderWebComm said:
The data is more balls go in the pockets when Stan, Landon, and Stevie are using CTE as it's prescribed to connect to the geometry of the table than you at the table playing any game with whatever you use.

You like that answer?
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About as meaningful as any other answer you fanatics give. Thanks for showing that you still can't answer a single question directly. Maybe if you tried with a different font color..
 
SpiderWebComm said:
The data is more balls go in the pockets when Stan, Landon, and Stevie are using CTE as it's prescribed to connect to the geometry of the table than you at the table playing any game with whatever you use.


They were pros before using CTE. They can claim they have gotten better but there aren't any measurable results to show that they are making more balls now than before.
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Banks said:
About as meaningful as any other answer you fanatics give. Thanks for showing that you still can't answer a single question directly. Maybe if you tried with a different font color..
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You certainly haven't answered or done anything to prove otherwise. How can you?
You don't even know where to start with CTE

But here's your big chance, BANKS. When somebody has that as his screen name it's assumed you're good at it and your favorite game.

Here's Stevie explaining and demonstrating CTE for YOUR SPECIALTY, BANKS, and how it connects to the geometry of the table:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mlnRiAXA8

OK, your turn. How about a short video with the same setup showing how YOU bank balls? I'm predicting the double talk starting like Pat Johnson because you're in the same category...GUTLESS WONDERS and BIG MOUTHS.

And to keep the OP in the forefront, Stevie Moore posted:

Headed to Louisiana Tuesday June 16 for the bar table tourney there in Shreveport and am in need of making a few dollars to pay for my expenses. Anyone in or around this area or on the way to Shreveport I would love to do a group of 2-4 or one on one training in center-to edge aiming. This information will take you and your game to next level. GUARANTEED!!! PM me and let's get you started on the strongest perceptual pool playing journey of your life.

Please email me at stevietheblade@gmail.com for scheduling as I don't frequent this site.




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nine_ball6970 said:
SpiderWebComm said:
The data is more balls go in the pockets when Stan, Landon, and Stevie are using CTE as it's prescribed to connect to the geometry of the table than you at the table playing any game with whatever you use.


They were pros before using CTE. They can claim they have gotten better but there aren't any measurable results to show that they are making more balls now than before.
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Landon was a pro? What data is there to show the same number of balls or less? Are YOU calling them liars?

And to keep the OP in the forefront, Stevie Moore posted:

Headed to Louisiana Tuesday June 16 for the bar table tourney there in Shreveport and am in need of making a few dollars to pay for my expenses. Anyone in or around this area or on the way to Shreveport I would love to do a group of 2-4 or one on one training in center-to edge aiming. This information will take you and your game to next level. GUARANTEED!!! PM me and let's get you started on the strongest perceptual pool playing journey of your life.

Please email me at stevietheblade@gmail.com for scheduling as I don't frequent this site.




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SpiderWebComm said:
nine_ball6970 said:
Landon was a pro? What data is there to show the same number of balls or less? Are YOU calling them liars?

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Why do you single Landon out?

Landon has been a pro caliber player for a number of years. His father being a strong player, having a table at home, and playing from an early age have at least as much to do with his level of play as the aiming system he uses.

Stevie Moore made 19k in 2012 and more every year before that. In the last 3.5 years he has made less than 6k tracked by azbilliards. Logic says that he would make more against other players if he had become a better player as a result of using CTE. He instead has decided to focus his time on teaching instead of playing apparently.

I have tremendous respect for Stevie and his game. I would take a lesson from him if he came to Texas. I believe he has a lot to offer. I just do not believe CTE has helped has game as stated.
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nine_ball6970 said:
SpiderWebComm said:
Why do you single Landon out?

Landon has been a pro caliber player for a number of years. His father being a strong player, having a table at home, and playing from an early age have at least as much to do with his level of play as the aiming system he uses.

Stevie Moore made 19k in 2012 and more every year before that. In the last 3.5 years he has made less than 6k tracked by azbilliards. Logic says that he would make more against other players if he had become a better player as a result of using CTE. He instead has decided to focus his time on teaching instead of playing apparently.

I have tremendous respect for Stevie and his game. I would take a lesson from him if he came to Texas. I believe he has a lot to offer. I just do not believe CTE has helped has game as stated.
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You included Landon as being a pro, that's why. He wasn't and isn't as far as I know.

I guess you can believe whatever you want. I believe all 3 of them when they say it has. They're all upstanding individuals and true gentlemen. There's no reason to disbelieve them.

Some people believe in God and others don't. I'm not going to try to sway you one way or another on that issue nor CTE. Don't learn it, don't try it, or don't use it. Simple as that.

And to keep the OP in the forefront, Stevie Moore posted:

Headed to Louisiana Tuesday June 16 for the bar table tourney there in Shreveport and am in need of making a few dollars to pay for my expenses. Anyone in or around this area or on the way to Shreveport I would love to do a group of 2-4 or one on one training in center-to edge aiming. This information will take you and your game to next level. GUARANTEED!!! PM me and let's get you started on the strongest perceptual pool playing journey of your life.

Please email me at stevietheblade@gmail.com for scheduling as I don't frequent this site.




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Patrick Johnson said:
"I do exactly the same thing and get different results" is an explanation?

I think that's the definition of something else...

pj
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I think you think too much instead of doing, that is unless you continue doing whatever the same thing it is that you've always been doing which will give you the same results.

Keep using contact point coupled with ghost ball intertwined with some lizard like head bobbing topped off with a pinch of "feel" at the end.

And to keep the OP in the forefront, Stevie Moore posted:

Headed to Louisiana Tuesday June 16 for the bar table tourney there in Shreveport and am in need of making a few dollars to pay for my expenses. Anyone in or around this area or on the way to Shreveport I would love to do a group of 2-4 or one on one training in center-to edge aiming. This information will take you and your game to next level. GUARANTEED!!! PM me and let's get you started on the strongest perceptual pool playing journey of your life.

Please email me at stevietheblade@gmail.com for scheduling as I don't frequent this site.




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I can not say which side of the CTE argument I fall on because I have not tried it yet. It seems to me that CTE is mostly about perception, how the shooter perceives the shot line. The thing that confuses me is all of the energy that you guys put into telling the few in the world who will listen how someone's perception may or may not be "correct". To me that is about the same as telling them they are wrong for liking a particular shade of blue or not liking that shade of blue. If CTE helps someone pocket balls better than I guess it works for that person, it must help them perceive the shot line better. If it does not help someone pocket balls better than I would say that it does not help that person. But because it is about perception it is going to be unique to each individual, not right or wrong.
 
fastone371 said:
I can not say which side of the CTE argument I fall on because I have not tried it yet. It seems to me that CTE is mostly about perception, how the shooter perceives the shot line. The thing that confuses me is all of the energy that you guys put into telling the few in the world who will listen how someone's perception may or may not be "correct". To me that is about the same as telling them they are wrong for liking a particular shade of blue or not liking that shade of blue. If CTE helps someone pocket balls better than I guess it works for that person, it must help them perceive the shot line better. If it does not help someone pocket balls better than I would say that it does not help that person. But because it is about perception it is going to be unique to each individual, not right or wrong.
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You explained it, in a nut shell.

I took lessons from Stan, and CTE was taught to me. And prior to my lesson I watched the videos Stan published on YouTube, and came to the lessons with questions. I had also bought the first DVD approximately a year earlier and watched it too.

My understanding of the aiming system from the DVD was nonexistent. I didn't get it.

During my lessons my goal was to get the perception understood. As each shot was presented to me I would only focus on the cue ball when shooting the shot. I would miss shots into the side pocket from 11" away. If I shot the same shot my previous way of aiming, I'd make the shot 100-100x. But my goal was to understand the perception. I felt after visualizing the shot and coming down onto the table with my sweep, that in order to better understand the concept, I had to look at the cue ball during my stroke.

I came home and practiced the shots Stan has in his student handbook. I practiced always going down into my shot and continue to look at the cue ball during my stroke.

This in my opinion helped speed up the learning curve of this aiming system.

I can also say that by using this system, I don't use my old way of measuring where to hit the rail for a bank shot. In the past, I would mark the rail by where the two intersecting lines meet (I'm sure some of you know what I mean to explain). Now, I just use CTE and do a sweep from the correct side.

I have tried to share this concept to some friends of mine, but quickly lose them, because I'm trying to explain a perception. It's not easy to do for someone, who is impatient or set in their ways of playing, and have a closed mind. I've also quit trying to share it with people. My excitement from wanting to share the concept with others is quickly lost when they say they play by feel or just use a ghost ball. Ok, keep doing it that way.

I believe in the system. It has helped me with my game. I plan to keep using it for my game.

I also believe Stan is trying to help the pool community, by sharing his understanding of this concept. And I appreciate him doing so.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
You certainly haven't answered or done anything to prove otherwise. How can you?
You don't even know where to start with CTE

But here's your big chance, BANKS. When somebody has that as his screen name it's assumed you're good at it and your favorite game.

Here's Stevie explaining and demonstrating CTE for YOUR SPECIALTY, BANKS, and how it connects to the geometry of the table:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mlnRiAXA8

OK, your turn. How about a short video with the same setup showing how YOU bank balls? I'm predicting the double talk starting like Pat Johnson because you're in the same category...GUTLESS WONDERS and BIG MOUTHS.

And to keep the OP in the forefront, Stevie Moore posted:

Headed to Louisiana Tuesday June 16 for the bar table tourney there in Shreveport and am in need of making a few dollars to pay for my expenses. Anyone in or around this area or on the way to Shreveport I would love to do a group of 2-4 or one on one training in center-to edge aiming. This information will take you and your game to next level. GUARANTEED!!! PM me and let's get you started on the strongest perceptual pool playing journey of your life.

Please email me at stevietheblade@gmail.com for scheduling as I don't frequent this site.




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I've said it before and I'll say it again.. Stevie appeared to get worse with the addition of cte. As long as we get to say things that others have to disprove.. cte makes you worse and causes brain damage. Contrary to things the fanatics say, those could probably be proven without a doubt with real data.

How do i bank? I find the angle and make adjustments for spin, speed and cit/cis.

Speaking of gutless wonders and big mouths.. how about you start spouting off about that one time in that one tournament or that one run you had that one time. Since you've been a fanatic, why haven't you repeated or bettered that old feat? I offered up a challenge before and you clammed up real quick there, kiddo. Go Barton someone else.

I'm decent at the game and at banking, considering how long I've been playing. When someone has "comm" in their name, you'd figure they be good at communication. :rolleyes: Now, scurry off and spin a web of nonsense somewhere else.
 
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