CTE Stepping Cue Ball.

I really don't, because none of that is necessary. The half ball hit, in CTE use, is nothing more than a starting point when the initial angle seems to look like closer to a 30 degree angle than say a 15 or 45.
A half ball HIT is always a half ball HIT.

If you want to start a pre shot routine with a center to edge reference, that is not a HIT.
 
So… fractions with a side of mumbo jumbo.

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Dang PJ, I know, for sure, you can comprehend writing better than that. Who said anything, at all, about applying, anything? There is no side anything,,,,,,,,, get the shot in your vision correctly and aim at the center of the white ball, (that is the cue ball).
 
Is somebody teaching something here?

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They have and they still should be. But posters like you have made sure that will not happen. Your constant bitching about CTE even though you’ve never learned it or been interested in it has totally ruined the aiming forum. Pat yourself on the back.
 
They have and they still should be. But posters like you have made sure that will not happen. Your constant bitching about CTE even though you’ve never learned it or been interested in it has totally ruined the aiming forum. Pat yourself on the back.
lol

The Aiming forum was created to quarantine CTE because of this constant dynamic:

Non-CTE user: Can you explain how that instruction makes sense?

CTE Defender:
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I did order the book because I had some money to burn and I was curious.

Unfortunately, the book is exactly like the videos. Nonsensical jargon gibberish. The book might as well have a pin up calendar to Hal Houle. Can't go 4 pages without an entire paraph on him.

I have no idea who Hal Houle is, I don't see any Mosconi cup teams with him on it. If you Google his name you just get the aiming section on AZB, so who the hell cares about him.

But if I had to describe the book, here it is in a summary.

It's beyond me how that actor got through that without busting out laughing. I wonder how many takes it required.
 
lol

The Aiming forum was created to quarantine CTE because of this constant dynamic:

Non-CTE user: Can you explain how that instruction makes sense?

CTE Defender:
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Nah. It was created because internet trolls couldn’t leave CTE alone. You are a prime example. 20 plus years posting against and you’ve never bothered to learn how to actually use it. Never bothered to experiment on the table to see if it would be good for your game or not. Just years and years of troll comments.
 
No, actually you don't even have to look at the object ball, or pocket, once you approach the cue ball, so I can't imagine what you would make an adjustment to. I have learned not to take much of anything related to CTE on Dan's word.
There's your problem. You are gullible. You shouldn't take my word for anything any more than you should take the word of some guy who spent a career teaching little kids how to read -- a noble pursuit to be sure, but not exactly physics. Look at the science and discuss the claims made, which is what I have always tried to do.
 
Actually, CTE is easily explained if you have the mathematical aptitude to understand it.
OK, shoot. Several of us have advanced math backgrounds.

It is a fractional ball perception, or initial ballpark positioning of the vision relative to the cue ball and object ball orientation to the pocket, and then adjusting that vision in the 3rd plane (height and distance from the cue ball to the eyes) to those relative positions. This 3rd angle projection (which is really a very complex compound angle relative to cue ball and object ball centers) can be mathematically explained with the implementing of a few kinematic equations. But that may confuse people since the variables for those equations would always differ on every shot, so Stan, with his level of dedication, has over the years contrived no less than 4 different ways of explaining to people how to get their vision adjusted close enough to make most shots without adjusting their aim after addressing the object ball. Without that adjustment to vision after the perception and before cue ball address, all 1/2 ball hits would cut at 29 degrees. Simplified, with 2d fractional ball aiming the only variable is the diameter of the balls, since nothing else changes the angle. But with the addition of the 3rd or 3d perspective applied, then many more variables apply, even now the distance between the balls, and distance from the balls to the pocket matter as variables which can perfectly define exactly where the vision center needs to be placed relative to every shot with the application of kinematic formulas, which are used in pretty much anything engineered to achieve and objective relative to motion. These variable are why a 1/2 ball hit on 1 pair of balls cuts say 26 degrees and yet the same 1/2 ball hit on 2 other balls positioned differently on the table would be cut maybe 34 degrees, and so on. It's just math, but it's not just simple math as used to define basic fractional aiming. But, again, to simplify things, Stan explained at least 4 other ways to do it close enough. I think he did good.
Wait... was that the explanation? I asked you earlier to tell your best joke because you said you were a funny guy. Is this the joke?
 
There's your problem. You are gullible. You shouldn't take my word for anything any more than you should take the word of some guy who spent a career teaching little kids how to read -- a noble pursuit to be sure, but not exactly physics. Look at the science and discuss the claims made, which is what I have always tried to do.
yo would be a lot more more credible after all these years if you would once and for all prove why CTE does not work, instead of all the stupid little 1 liners you and pj come up with.

And the joke, whatever I posted I was pretty sure you wouldn't get it. I was right.
 
yo would be a lot more more credible after all these years if you would once and for all prove why CTE does not work, instead of all the stupid little 1 liners you and pj come up with.

And the joke, whatever I posted I was pretty sure you wouldn't get it. I was right.
You never replied to that joke post, or at least I didn't see it.

You don't understand the argument. I was never about proving that CTE doesn't work. Clearly, some people play better after adopting CTE so as far as they are concerned it works. My interest was in examining the claims Stan makes that supposedly prove that it works in the magical way he claims. I'm talking about the "phenomena that was never supposed to be" or the ability to use the same perception and pocket shots at different angles. When people point out that this is not supported by geometry, the counter argument is that it can't be shown in a book. It's a 3D creation of the mind, or whatever. The point is that when CTE supporters have already swallowed whole, nothing seems to be able to shake their faith.

So what to do? I tried to use Stan's own videos wherever I could to illustrate inaccuracies and flawed logic. I believe I have done that on more than one occasion but, again, it seems once you've signed on to CTE all logic goes out the window. I think it is still an interesting topic and it is good for newbies looking into CTE to see both sides of the story.

But using your idea of proving it doesn't work, what do you do when you prove that 2+2 does not equal 5 yet you still get people saying it does?

I'm all ears waiting for you to provide mathematical proof for CTE like Brian did for Poolology. I always said I'd be a bigger cheerleader than JB if someone could do something as presumptuous as actually provide hard evidence for Stan's claims.
 
i must say you guys have a lot of perseverance? to continue this for 20+ years 😱 😱 😱 😱
 
You never replied to that joke post, or at least I didn't see it.

You don't understand the argument. I was never about proving that CTE doesn't work. Clearly, some people play better after adopting CTE so as far as they are concerned it works. My interest was in examining the claims Stan makes that supposedly prove that it works in the magical way he claims. I'm talking about the "phenomena that was never supposed to be" or the ability to use the same perception and pocket shots at different angles. When people point out that this is not supported by geometry, the counter argument is that it can't be shown in a book. It's a 3D creation of the mind, or whatever. The point is that when CTE supporters have already swallowed whole, nothing seems to be able to shake their faith.

So what to do? I tried to use Stan's own videos wherever I could to illustrate inaccuracies and flawed logic. I believe I have done that on more than one occasion but, again, it seems once you've signed on to CTE all logic goes out the window. I think it is still an interesting topic and it is good for newbies looking into CTE to see both sides of the story.

But using your idea of proving it doesn't work, what do you do when you prove that 2+2 does not equal 5 yet you still get people saying it does?

I'm all ears waiting for you to provide mathematical proof for CTE like Brian did for Poolology. I always said I'd be a bigger cheerleader than JB if someone could do something as presumptuous as actually provide hard evidence for Stan's claims.
nah, I think I've spent more time explaining than I should have, assuming some of you were actually trying to "get" it, but you have no desire to understand, hell I explained it at least 2 times already. All you guys want to do is pick Stan apart,,,,,,,,,, a lowly school teacher as you described him. You guys need a life.
 
nah, I think I've spent more time explaining than I should have, assuming some of you were actually trying to "get" it, but you have no desire to understand, hell I explained it at least 2 times already. All you guys want to do is pick Stan apart,,,,,,,,,, a lowly school teacher as you described him. You guys need a life.
You're like a walking cliche of the CTE true believer. You've got all the bases covered:

- I could explain it to you if I wanted to,
- It's been explained to you already over and over,
- You have no interest in learning,
- You've never tried to learn it, only to pick it apart,
- It's not worth my time
- Yadda, yadda, yadda, bullshit.

I never said being a teacher was lowly. I went out of my way to say otherwise, but apparently you don't understand that comment any better than the transmission thing. Stan has no business telling professional scientists and engineers that they don't understand his brand of science.

We're still waiting for you to show us the CTE math. Your "5 axis" bullcrap spin didn't work. Try again.
 
Stan has no business telling professional scientists and engineers that they don't understand his brand of science.
And you're obsession with Stan continues. Stan has had professional scientists and engineers to his house. They all have agreed that CTE works exactly how Stan describes it. They all had success using CTE. Could they do the math on it, no. But then again CTE is a visual system and the math most likely will never be done for it. That's been long established. There has been no hiding about that. Full disclosure has been out there.

Now instead of your constant wrong accusations why not get out of your mom's basement, go to a pool hall and actually try and learn CTE so maybe at some point this year you will actually make a useful post concerning CTE.
 
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