Believe what you want. Watch good players on YouTube, no ghostball any where. Ghodtball is a joke. Pool is not played looking for such bs. Like CJ said ..I don't believe in ghost.
CTE: trusting the mechanics
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Believe what you want. Watch good players on YouTube, no ghostball any where. Ghodtball is a joke. Pool is not played looking for such bs. Like CJ said ..I don't believe in ghost.
You mean like most people have learned astronomy before "advancing" to astrology?
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chgo
Pat, when I think of someone using the ghost ball, to me It sounds like their trying to judge the spot where it would be sitting. It should be obvious that what ever system one uses with success, its identifying where the ghost ball is. To me and maybe others, saying you use the ghost ball method is implying you're judging an 1 1/8 behind the ob
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Great players maybe find that spot, but the connection has nothing to do with locating the center of the ghost ball .
Just jokin' with ya about not being able to see a ghost...
But I don't think ghost ball is really all about visualizing that 1 1/8" spot - or that other methods use any less estimation. I think they're all much more similar than we realize, particularly at the subconscious level where the real aiming is done.
pj
chgo
Hi Monty,
I've been aligning contact points for many a decade without any thought or vision of any ghost ball or ghost ball contact patch or any 1 1/8" half ghost ball or any thing like that.
One aligns or aims the contact point on the CB to hit the CP on the OB. There is a line that connects those two points & it has little to nothing to do with even a thought of a ghost ball. (at least not for me & am rather sure not for others as well)
Best Wishes to You & ALL.
Everyone uses the ghost ball to visualize the two balls colliding . Not saying they do it ALL THE time. But, they do use it.
They just don't want to admit it . :wink:
They just don't want to admit it . :wink:
So ghost ball makes people... Or creates bad habits, like shuffling and moving the cues alignment when down. Ok, I see poor players doing it all the time, fair enough. But, how does a CTE user adjust to hit the thick part of the pocket or the thin side of the pocket? Do they shuffle and move the cues alignment once at centre ball to hit it a fraction thinner or thicker? Does CTE cover cheating the pocket, playing combinations, using side spin without having to waggle the butt like and amateur? I strongly disagree that its a complete playing system as someone posted. Its an aiming system. Nothing more.
I agree. Its like with fractions. Its a visualisation method even though people don't want to admit it. Ghost ball or rather the ghost ball is very speed and spin dependant with SIT and CIT. So people obviously just visualise the balls colliding at a speed they want to hit and based on memory hit it. So if you play a slow half ball stun shot it will throw a lot... Start out with centre pocket ghost ball then imagine them colliding to allow yourself to adjust.
I'm still of the belief that finding the line of aim requires no system. Just practise.
*** I meant to quote post 33
For a player that really knows CTE, any adjustments that are needed are natural, precise, accurate and very simple........I have played this game for nearly 6 decades. Handling the situations that you listed are multiple times easier than any other approach I have ever been exposed to.
Stan Shuffett
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It's no different. You make those adjustments after the aiming system gives you the aim, same concept.
Ok maybe for you. But for someone who aims whilst standing... How ever they choose to aim... It is very difficult to then accurately judge to hit a certain part of the pocket once down on the shot by adjusting. Or when you have a ball and a half gap to one side of the pocket... They are much better adjusted for whilst standing. To do this well, a player has to find a line of aim that sends the object ball through the gap. A centre pocket line of aim won't help, and will likely distract a player.
You have 6 decades of table experience, so I'm sure it is second nature to you to adjust for parts of the pocket being blocked. But for someone who is new to CTE it would be tough, and would take time for them to learn how to do it... Or fill their memory bank with successful shots in other words. Any system... Or no system... If they practise it and learn to adjust then isn't it just like anything else in pool...you don't need a system, just experience which kind of makes using systems a waste of time IMO.
What I would like to see from you Stan is you making videos on combinations and hitting the 3 sections of the pockets for all perceptions. I feel it may help new comers to CTE learn faster and force them to use it every shot. You know how it is... League player, a 1-9 combo for the win... CTE won't help unless it's dead straight so they go back to guessing and miss making them doubt if CTE is usable in tough situations. I admire the curtain videos... But I can't ever remember having to shoot through a curtain for the win.
This isn't me having a pop at you by any means, im just expressing my opinion and letting you know what I feel is missing from CTE.
Cheers.
But for me, who doesn't use an aiming system as such (I just look at the pocket or what part of the pocket, then the object ball, then cue ball, then object ball.... Walk in and my cue is on the line of aim) I make no adjustments when down. I approach the line of aim head on, I don't cut across it.
Making adjustments after you have already found a centre pocket line of aim will cause all kinds of issues. Alignment, movement, unbalance in the stance, cueing across the ball, vision centre being off. Just to name a few. I find it hard that doing it this way will cause any improvements to consistency. Of a player can adjust after CTE has given them the line of aim for centre ball then they don't need to use CTE. They have proven they are capable of aiming precisely to hit a certain part of the pocket or make a combo. They prove they can aim without a system, basically.
There is nothing missing from CTE, absolutely nothing, ...my work is complete and my book will be out in 2016.
Your video ideas are excellent and will becsuper easy to do, showing just what you want see.
I will put your ideas on my list. I may not do any additional videos until my book is released......
Stan Shuffett
When doing this are you visualizing the edge of the gb to? Colliding??? at what point do you start the gb a rolling?
Ok .. I do believe in ghost.