Cue ball - valley cougar magnetic by aramith
- Thread starter ROB.M
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What's the issue? They need 3 parts: 1. An inner core 2. A metallic surface. 3. An outer surface.
The inner core should be the same material as their regular balls. Then What's the issue with using a regular ball?
The inner core should be the same material as their regular balls. Then What's the issue with using a regular ball?
I'd think it would be the size.
How do they get the mag "rope" inside an existing 9-ball anyway?
Jeff Livingston
OnePocketBanks
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I thought the magnetic cueball was out of style? I haven't seen one in many years.
Not every barbox out there is a Diamond. Believe or not, there are still barboxes that rely on magnet technology to separate the cueball.
I think, by nature, teh Aramith Magnetic ball is gonna do slightly weird shit. Due to it's design of having a layer of metal close to the surface of the ball makes the ball "perimeter weighted".
Eric
It appears they are recycling pool balls into a valley ball and retailing them for $20-$30 a ball..In the the pic disregard the shattered ball'
Is this the norm? If so how Clever.....
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Rob.M
This is quite normal. Aramith takes balls that have cosmetic defects and coats them in their magnetic batter so to speak to make them magnetic. the valley magnetic cue ball and cougar ball both use this process. you pretty much have a normal 1-15# ball that has this outer magnetic shield. definitely check your nails in your pockets as over time they will tend to move and could chip any ball no matter what brand
This is so, SO true. The Cougar ball is basically an Aramith green "S"-logo'ed ball OEM'ed by Valley.
When the "weight" of the ball is focused on its center (i.e. a "plugged" ball), the ball behaves in the classic manner as described in R. Givens' "The 8-ball Bible". But when you move that weight to the outer perimeter of the ball (i.e. a foil-wrapped ball like the Cougar / "S"-logo'ed ball), the ball behaves very strangely. Also, that outer "shell" of the ball has to be made of a tougher material than the rest of the ball, because it has to resist chipping in such a thin coating. So, the way the ball interacts with the cloth is different as well.
As to Aramith "recycling" old pool balls to act as the "core" of these foil-wrapped balls, that's old hat -- it makes good business sense to take an old ball's diameter down slightly to act as the core. It's been covered many times here (to the OP: use the Search function).
-Sean
OnePocketBanks
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These cueballs are not advisable to use. They react differently than traditional cueballs, and your brain will be unlearning the way that a real cueball reacts.
It appears they are recycling pool balls into a valley ball and retailing them for $20-$30 a ball..In the the pic disregard the shattered ball'
Is this the norm? If so how Clever.....
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Rob.M
Absolutely normal.
Freddie
The one in the background was the version of magnetic cueballl prior to that Green Aramith bar box ball pictured.
It's a spring that is insert cast. The overall weight is pretty close to a regular cueball, but on slick surfaces, they could do some funny S and J hooks. Most bars would never notice.
Prior to the green Aramith cuball, the insert spring cueball was the best bar box ball going.
Freddie <~~~ it's like deja vu all over again
They turn down a regular ball (or a second that didn't 100% pass the quality check) using a centerless grinder (as all balls are ground).
They must dip or cast subsequent layers (magnetic and then outer).
Unfortunately, to keep the ball in the middle, there must be a way to hold the inner ball, so after all is said and done, there will be a port or circle leftover that they would have to fill up. This will always be the weakest part of the ball and if there is a breakage, more than likely it will be in the shape of the plug/holder.
Freddie
Cue ball
I understood the process of of recycling a pool ball when I originally seen the cougar ball like this. Took a few seconds tho' the reason posted is because I'm asking why the high price of the aramith mudd ball if it's a metallic veneered rejected numbered ball? They will never have a badd ball in a manufacturing process with a recycling program...
If there recycling pool balls then where do I send the milk creates of pool balls to get my deposit back??? Apparently the old,chipped up no good aramith balls would be golden to them for this application in there state of the art process that must costs so much for the accurate roll and play ability
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Rob.M
I understood the process of of recycling a pool ball when I originally seen the cougar ball like this. Took a few seconds tho' the reason posted is because I'm asking why the high price of the aramith mudd ball if it's a metallic veneered rejected numbered ball? They will never have a badd ball in a manufacturing process with a recycling program...
If there recycling pool balls then where do I send the milk creates of pool balls to get my deposit back??? Apparently the old,chipped up no good aramith balls would be golden to them for this application in there state of the art process that must costs so much for the accurate roll and play ability
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Rob.M
Never been a fan of the mudball !
Hey Rob sup bro
Hey Rob sup bro
The reason they use the flawed balls is because they are cosmetic flaws, they still roll and weigh true since there is no plug. for that reason instead of tossing them they put the outer magnetic shell around the ball and sell it as a magnetic. it's a small shell over the original ball and because of this they do tend to chip and wear down faster.
cue ball
"As to Aramith "recycling" old pool balls to act as the "core" of these foil-wrapped balls, that's old hat -- it makes good business sense to take an old ball's diameter down slightly to act as the core. It's been covered many times here (to the OP: use the Search function)."
I for one am glad he did not do a search otherwise many of us that did not know this information still wouldn't.:wink:
"As to Aramith "recycling" old pool balls to act as the "core" of these foil-wrapped balls, that's old hat -- it makes good business sense to take an old ball's diameter down slightly to act as the core. It's been covered many times here (to the OP: use the Search function)."
I for one am glad he did not do a search otherwise many of us that did not know this information still wouldn't.:wink:
