Cue identification
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anytime one of these unknown high-quality cues that resembles a big name but isn't quite right pops-up, i think phillippi first
I had cue few years ago had same weight bolt and stiched ring work. I was told it was Richard Black
Here are few that I know are scruggs. I notice it looked Alot like 2nd pic with longer but and the same ringwork above and below wrap. Also the little barbells or lines in each of the boxes is the same. These are reasons I thought it could be a scruggs
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Nice looking cue. Resembles a Scruggs in many fashions but also several things that seem off.
Butt cap seems long & no logo. More unusual is the 5/16x14 pin being flat faced & not piloted, all of his flat faced joints I've seen are big pin, maybe a custom order. At any rate a top flight looking cue. Good luck in your research.
Butt cap seems long & no logo. More unusual is the 5/16x14 pin being flat faced & not piloted, all of his flat faced joints I've seen are big pin, maybe a custom order. At any rate a top flight looking cue. Good luck in your research.
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justinb386
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It's 5/16 x14 flat face. Micarta joint. Boxes are ivory. Ivory ferrule shaft. I got a few leads it could be scruggs but not positive any help would be great.
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I really love the looks of that cue. Very unique looking.
Rings in buttsleeve and above wrap are similar to an early Mottey I had, and he is also famous for his box cues, but I never saw one if his with that buttsleeve design. I would think Scruggs as well. The Mottey I had with the similar ringwork can be seen on proficientbilliards.com website in cue gallery under Mottey - 8 pointer Will try remember to check back here to find out what the final answer is.
Here are few that I know are scruggs. I notice it looked Alot like 2nd pic with longer but and the same ringwork above and below wrap. Also the little barbells or lines in each of the boxes is the same. These are reasons I thought it could be a scruggs
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Looks like #11 in your picture except for the joint. Did Scruggs make cues without his logo?
lawrence526
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When there are no maker marks, it gets hard to tell, but it is not hard to see quality, beautiful!
Hey Will, when did Tim use that pin? Was this a one-off? BTW, pics look like a 3/8x10. Is it ?
lawrence526
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Will, I sent you a friend request, been buying, selling and trading cues for the last 20 years and occasionally run across an unknown cue, pool buffs like you do come in handy, Larry in Indiana.
You were correct first. :thumbup:
And me. :thumbup:
We are in good company. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
When I first saw it I thought yeah, it's a TS...this will be settled and done. I also thought it was an early cue because of the lack of markings and some other matters.
What I like about cues like this is the heritage in addition to the inherent qualities of the cue.. You can see the Joss shop roots in this cue.
It has features that evoke flashbacks to the first Joss box cue, yet is clearly evolved and a Scruggs cue.For those that appreciate the era, genre, and maker, this cue is really a sweetheart. And beyond that, standing on its own, it is certainly a treasure.
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You were correct first. :thumbup:
And me. :thumbup:
We are in good company. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
When I first saw it I thought yeah, it's a TS...this will be settled and done. I also thought it was an early cue because of the lack of markings and some other matters.
What I like about cues like this is the heritage in addition to the inherent qualities of the cue.. You can see the Joss shop roots in this cue.
For those that appreciate the era, genre, and maker, this cue is really a sweetheart. And beyond that, standing on its own, it is certainly a treasure.
Back at ya, thanks for the compliment. :thumbup:
It occurs to me, it takes an early Joss enthusiast like you and me to sometimes tell the early work of Tim Scruggs, as he did his formative work there.
There were distinct clues that this was a Scruggs, such as ringwork, and the dash rings both above and below the windows in the buttsleeve. Janes and Stroud, for example, tended to do only one set of dashed rings in the buttsleeve on a box cue such as this.
Cue forensics are great. Sometimes we are wrong or unsure. But more often, we are right.
All the best,
WW