Cue joint preference

damandavid

damandavid

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Hey all,

I'm pretty new to the forum (and billiards as well) but I've been perusing the main forum and have learned a lot, so thanks for all the posts and info!

Anyway, on to my question. I'm buying a cue for my father-in-law, looking to spend $100-150 for a nice, simple, wrapless cue. He is an old-timer that used to play, but has just recently got his own table and got back in to it. He's used to playing with a bar cue, and I wanna get him something special. A couple of the cues I were looking at had wood joints, and I heard that they provide a feeling more similar to a one piece cue.

I was wondering what you guy's experience with wood joints was and whether they make a significant difference in feel/touch? Also, if anyone has ideas for cues in that range, that'd be great too. I'm currently looking at players and dufferins.

Thanks,
DavidL
 
Compression piloted 5/16x14 joint with steel collar is near best. With ivory joint collar is best IMHO.


There are several more modern "big pin" permutations, but none has surpassed this.


IMHO....



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damandavid said:
Hey all,

I'm pretty new to the forum (and billiards as well) but I've been perusing the main forum and have learned a lot, so thanks for all the posts and info!

Anyway, on to my question. I'm buying a cue for my father-in-law, looking to spend $100-150 for a nice, simple, wrapless cue. He is an old-timer that used to play, but has just recently got his own table and got back in to it. He's used to playing with a bar cue, and I wanna get him something special. A couple of the cues I were looking at had wood joints, and I heard that they provide a feeling more similar to a one piece cue.

I was wondering what you guy's experience with wood joints was and whether they make a significant difference in feel/touch? Also, if anyone has ideas for cues in that range, that'd be great too. I'm currently looking at players and dufferins.

Thanks,
DavidL
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What cues were you looking at?


At $100-150, get whatever you want. McDermott Star, Players, Cuetec...

Your father-in-law will be thrilled. The joint won't ever be issue.


Freddie
 
A wood joint should offer a softer feel in my opinion, more so than would a piloted steel cue joint.
Having said that, keep in mind that tip hardness will also affect the feel of the hit, ex. soft vs. hard.
 
I've been playing with wood to wood from my Lucky cues, but my son wanted a Player with metal to metal.

The difference in how the cue sounds is very noticeable.

To me, the wood to wood is quiet and natural, and the metal to metal sounds like a miscue when he hits, but that's what I'm used to vs the new cue. Bottom line is that there is a definite difference in how they sound.

EDIT: My son plays with a cue with the same weight, ferrule, and tip as my break cue, so the comparison is pretty apples to apples.
 
Please, take the quoted advise.

mitchalsup said:
any joint that holds the but to the shaft works just fine.
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he will be thrilled with any cue you purchase for him as long as it does'nt have a ramin wood shaft. (wood that you can easily dent with your fingernail)

as long as the tip is solid feeling & not spongy, the joint, tip & ferrule material does not matter to someone that just wants to have some fun shooting.

If he gets serious about pool, then you & he could look at more expensive cues at that time.

Have fun & enjoy your time together,

slim
 
damandavid said:
I was wondering what you guy's experience with wood joints was and whether they make a significant difference in feel/touch?
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I don't care what joint my cues have.

I have never noticed any difference in the hit.
Any "differences" seem to be mostly in the imagination which can, and often does, lead to convincing oneself of anything.

My only worry with joints where the bolt is bolted to wood is that the cue won't last as long as when the bolt goes into metal.

As to the hit I've never noticed any difference.
 
If threaded together properly metal into wood joint will last forever or just as long as metal into metal joint.

I have repaired more metal into metal threads than metal into wood.

Slim
 
My playing cue has a 3/8th 10 pin into wood. I've had my shaft for a dozen years and it has no problems at the joint (I am careful not to cross-thread it, but since it is your dad and not some teenager, I expect he can be careful too, unless his eyes and/or his hands are really bad).

A Schmelke sneaky Pete with a 3/8 pin into wood and the McDermott Star (same joint) would both be great cues for the money. I do think the wood to wood hits more like a one piece - even if it is just the sound I am reacting to. As between the two, I guess if depends if he likes a cue that looks like a one-piece (the Schmelke), or wants one with more fancy decals on it.

Gideon
 
As with anything in regards to a cue it is very subjective. Some will say it's impossible to tell the difference in joints, don't know but I believe I can. My absolute favorite is definitely wood 2 wood. I believe it does give more " feel " and to me a more " solid " hit. I've had many over the years and have not ever had a problem with the joint or threads. Welcome aboard!
 
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