Cue length - Taller players

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I´m 6´3" and started playing with a 58" inch cue, a couple months ago bought a 61" cue, and my acuraccy became waaaaaaaaaaay better with center ball, but table length draws and table length thin cuts with english are being a pain in the ass.

I can perform the "Mike Massey power draw" with my lucasi/z2 and my meucci/ob c-pro, but with my longer cue just can´t. No matter how much juice I try to put on the cue ball. The tip is same diameter (11.70 +/-), it´s a custom low deflection shaft and I have tested it with another shorter cue and I can draw perfectly, but with my longer cue JUST CAN´T.

Tested with the JR cueball to see how low on the ball I´m hitting and I´m hitting the same with the 3 cues, but with the longer cue it seems like I can´t impart ennough power to the cue ball. I´m getting a lil frustrated by this, because my accuracy is 100% better with the longer cue. But the action on the cueball is limited.

Any other player have experienced this type of trouble? Any sugestion?

Thank you.
 
I will voice the unpopular opinion. It's not the cue.

With any change in equipment there will be a break-in period. Give yourself a few weeks to get used to your new cue. If your setup has changed due to a change in where you put your hands you might not be hitting the cueball in the exact spot you want to.
 
similar thing with me, im 6 3, long arms. I tried the longer cue route too, and while it did seem to help me on some shots, it seemed to hurt my overall game and control more than it helped. Id especially have problems get the same amount of spin on the ball that i got with a regular sized cue.
 
scottycoyote said:
similar thing with me, im 6 3, long arms. I tried the longer cue route too, and while it did seem to help me on some shots, it seemed to hurt my overall game and control more than it helped. Id especially have problems get the same amount of spin on the ball that i got with a regular sized cue.
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How long was your cue?
 
scottycoyote said:
similar thing with me, im 6 3, long arms. I tried the longer cue route too, and while it did seem to help me on some shots, it seemed to hurt my overall game and control more than it helped. Id especially have problems get the same amount of spin on the ball that i got with a regular sized cue.
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I'm 6'2"..long arms. On my old Palmer, I had 6 shafts, from 57.5" to 61". After serious experimentation to find the perfect length, I found that despite how comfortable the longer shafts felt, it came down to the 57.5" that performed the best with my screwed-up stroke. I really wanted the 61" to be my play shaft, but I played like a c-, whereas with the shortest shafts..C+ to B-.
 
I have two 59.5" cues and do not have a problem drawing the cue ball with either. My first thought was a different tip. Since you already experimented changing shafts around, that would not seem to be the issue. I agree with dr9ball. Give it time.
 
I think you are going to find that it is the butt. The reason is the butt is longer so you are gripping it in a different spot and your balance point has moved. On the shorter butt there is more forward weight shift where as the longer butt doesnt give you as much weight shift.
 
eddie0776 said:
I think you are going to find that it is the butt. The reason is the butt is longer so you are gripping it in a different spot and your balance point has moved. On the shorter butt there is more forward weight shift where as the longer butt doesnt give you as much weight shift.
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Nice point.;)
 
dr9ball said:
I will voice the unpopular opinion. It's not the cue.

With any change in equipment there will be a break-in period. Give yourself a few weeks to get used to your new cue. If your setup has changed due to a change in where you put your hands you might not be hitting the cueball in the exact spot you want to.
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I don't find it unpopular and agree. Things like a longer bridge, where you place your hand on the butt and such can, and will give you different results.
 
Also take into consideration that with a longer shaft you can have more squirt on long shots with english...

I found playing with a very dense 31" shaft with a 14" pro taper with a 12.9mm works well but for example if i place the cueball like i was breaking and the object ball against the second diamond frozen to the far end rail I actually aim a half ball hit with extreme side spin (tip and a half) and can cut the ball in so by the end of the table the ball has moved over significantly...

You may need to go with a different taper...or different shaft just for me Ive found I cant go back to the 58" cue as it so hampers my stroke and ability to move the ball around..

Now in all fairness...it did take me almost 6 months to get use to the longer cue...and I went with somebody who was local to me and I have to say John Bender has making longer cues and shafts down to a science...He will call up and say he has a piece of wood long enough and I will buy even if I dont need it right away....I know it will be right...I have 4 of his shafts in my case right now...lol..


Rick
 
fan-tum said:
I'm 6'2"..long arms. On my old Palmer, I had 6 shafts, from 57.5" to 61". After serious experimentation to find the perfect length, I found that despite how comfortable the longer shafts felt, it came down to the 57.5" that performed the best with my screwed-up stroke. I really wanted the 61" to be my play shaft, but I played like a c-, whereas with the shortest shafts..C+ to B-.
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I'm 6 ft, but I got a 6 ft 3 inch wing span.
I have a similar experience to you....I've bought a lot of great cues but
I hate ivory ferrules.....so I have them shortened to 57 inches.
This shortening makes the cue hit stronger.
Long cues tend to be weak.
With a longer cue, you need either more wood or more weight.

My bottom line.....find a cue that accommodates the shots.....
...and work your way around that.

I'm not looking for comfort when I choose a cue....
...I'm looking for a cue that does the job.
 
A common misconception is that a taller player needs a longer cue ....

IMHO........... this is totally wrong.

If you are taller and have longer arms.......... you don't need the longer cue because your reach will be longer.

If anything..... a shorter player needs a longer cue.

We have a guy in out league that can almost look over the table light. He is at least 6ft -7. He can reach the full table length for a shot without ever using a bridge,

Think about it.

Kim
 
I'm6'6''

There's one for sure with a longer cue, problems with different aspects of your play will be magnified. The longer cue will allow the cue to do more of the work for you, but you had better have a rock solid swing (like Earl or Mizerak) to utilize the potential if the Big Stick. Pool is soooooo precise, and by increasing the length of your ''pry bar'' the less is more principal comes into play. Very slight imperfections in aim and swing will magnify your errors in aiming, walking up to the shot, and swing speed, basically everything will change, good luck.
 
I don't think the lenght of the cue should have anything to do with it. I would change to a kamuii ss, which will make it easier to draw. Jimmy Reid does think height dictates the lenght of the cue one uses.
 
backplaying said:
I don't think the lenght of the cue should have anything to do with it. I would change to a kamuii ss, which will make it easier to draw. Jimmy Reid does think height dictates the lenght of the cue one uses.
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Really?....:scratchhead:
What do you base your reasoning on, since you don't think the cue length....
''should have anything to do with it''.
 
whammo57 said:
A common misconception is that a taller player needs a longer cue ....

IMHO........... this is totally wrong.

If you are taller and have longer arms.......... you don't need the longer cue because your reach will be longer.

If anything..... a shorter player needs a longer cue.

We have a guy in out league that can almost look over the table light. He is at least 6ft -7. He can reach the full table length for a shot without ever using a bridge,

Think about it.

Kim
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I agree,,,,,,,liken this to golf for a moment,,,,,alot of guys think longer clubs will play better. While the longer clubs do generate more club head speeds, they also generate exagerated error, which means farther out of bounds, farther in the woods, etc,,,,,when the fact is, when the Pros' (who can control the extra length) need more control, they actually choke DOWN, to shorten the club.
I know very good, and very tall players, who use standard 58 inch cues quite effectively, and often they Grip Forward a bit on long difficult shots for added control.
 
cUE LENGTH

Cue length, cue weight, shaft taper and tip diamater are personal choices that vary from player to player. I am 6' 3" and I shoot better with a longer cue. My Meucci Sneaky Pete with a Black Dot shaft is a 19 oz. 62" cue. My Pat Diveney Custom Ebony Hustler is about a 19 oz. 61" cue and the shafts are 30 inches. These longer cues work better for me then a 58 " cue. Tennis rackets, baseball bats, canoe paddles, bows, stocks on rifles, etc. all come in different lengths for a reason. Cues are no different and their is no sacred length. Human beings are the most adaptable species on the planet, because of that we are always trying to improve every thing we touch. I do wish the tables were 4 inches higher.
 
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