Cue maker names.....

[s'portplayer]

how'd they come up with it?

Just started wondering about how cuemaker's came up with the names of their business.

It seems like the majority of makers use their name or initials: Schick, Madden, Szamboti, etc..., but where did Ernie G. get "Ginacue" from or Samsara, Sugartree, etc...

 

[billbOK]

...but where did Ernie G. get "Ginacue" from...

Gina is the name of his (or one of his?) daughter.

 

[Drawman623]

Ernie did name his company after his daughter.

Perhaps a lesser known company name comes from Jerry Eick. He is an AZ regular and he builds under the name "Black Heart Cues." The name arrived for his propensity to safe his opponents into submission. Somebody told him he had a black heart and it took.

Other names came out of respect for other builders. "Rich cues" (Saul Rich) is different from "Star Cues" by Abe Rich. He chose Star Cues rather than his own name so folks wouldn't be confused.

Omen cues is a play on words, given that its cuemaker spells his name Ohman.

I think "Schon" means beautiful in another language.

"Joss" means luck but with Janes and Stroud at the lathe, they should have called it "talent"

 

[Sweet Marissa]

I think "Schon" means beautiful in another language.

Deutsch

 

[Eddie_Felson_HU]

Schon means "Good".
It's a german word.
And what is with Bear, Fury, Mezz?

They just sounds good enough to sell them. Try to think about, will you ever buy a (quality) cue called (let's see...) erm.... called... "Pitypang" ?

 

[CrownCityCorey]

"Joss" means luck but with Janes and Stroud at the lathe, they should have called it "talent"

In what language?

Joss

Schon means "Good".
It's a german word.

Hmmm...don't know about that one. Schon

 

[daveb]

Samsara or saṃsāra (Sanskrit) refers to the cycle of reincarnation or rebirth in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and other related religions.

 

[Rak9up]

Smile-internet never lies

Ginacue=Gina greek word for "giant" or expensive + cue=expensive cue
Samsura=Indian Navahoe word for "Gaudy"
Meucci=french word for "Bob"
Mezz=Hawaian word for for "Pezz"
Schon=German word meaning "long wait"
Viking=Word describing a Scandanavian leaving for U.S.
PFD=Purcasing Formulates Divorce
Joss=short for..... Just Overspend Some Silver
Josswest=Just Overspend Some Siver out West

 

[Beware_of_Dawg]

As it's spelled schön is German

Etymology
Old High German scōni

Adjective
schön

pretty, beautiful

source

 

[Sweet Marissa]

Schon means "Good".
It's a german word.
And what is with Bear, Fury, Mezz?

They just sounds good enough to sell them. Try to think about, will you ever buy a (quality) cue called (let's see...) erm.... called... "Pitypang" ?

Schön means beautiful. I grew up there.

 

[Drawman623]

When Richard Helmstetter started making cues in Japan, they were named ADAM after the grandson of Dave Forman, his partner at the time.

 

[dave sutton]

it had nothing to do with gus adams? the cuemaker. always though that

 

[Cornerman]

In what language?

Joss

From what little I've found out about the word, it isn't an old Chinese word. It seems to be a combined word possibly with European phonetic relations with the Latin "deus" which means "god." Those who have studied Linguistics will see the obvious connection. Joss and Deus are phonetic equivalents.

From the book Tai-Pan(I think that was the book) from where Janes and Stroud got the word, the context it was used seemed to suggest luck or fate, not necessarily good luck or bad fate.

My Taiwanese friend has no better way to explain it me other than "not really good or bad luck. Just luck." That being said, there are several "joss sticks" and "joss dolls" that seems to indicate more "god" than "luck." {edit: just found this: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=deus ex machina }

I think we all can make that pseudo connection between fate, luck, and the gods.

Hmmm...don't know about that one. Schon

Schön means beautiful in German. There's a lot of German ancestry in Wisconsin.

Fred <~~~ linguistcally speaking

 

[Cornerman]

but where did Ernie G. get "Ginacue" ..

As others have said, Ernie named the cue company after his daughter Gina(from his first marriage). In my interview with him, he said that he never considered any other name for his cue company. In case anyone was wondering.

Fred

 

[Captain K.]

Ginacue=Gina greek word for "giant" or expensive + cue=expensive cue
Samsura=Indian Navahoe word for "Gaudy"
Meucci=french word for "Bob"
Mezz=Hawaian word for for "Pezz"
Schon=German word meaning "long wait"
Viking=Word describing a Scandanavian leaving for U.S.
PFD=Purcasing Formulates Divorce
Joss=short for..... Just Overspend Some Silver
Josswest=Just Overspend Some Siver out West

LOL :smile:

 

[s'portplayer]

Thanks everyone for satisfying my curiousity.

I'm sure there are many other cuemakers out there with interesting names and such, so keep 'em coming.

My gut tells me, and it's NEVER wrong, that Eric got the name Sugartree from the Maple tree. Hopefully he'll run across this thread and shed light on his name.

 

[Drawman623]

it had nothing to do with gus adams? the cuemaker. always though that

I believe the company name has no "S" at the end. Adam cues.

 

[Scott Lee]

daveb...According to Jim Stadum, Samsara is Sanskrit for "excellence".

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Samsara or saṃsāra (Sanskrit) refers to the cycle of reincarnation or rebirth in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and other related religions.

 

[bnkunderme]

dont forget...

cognoscenti -
co⋅gno⋅scen⋅ti   /ˌkɒnyəˈʃɛnti, ˌkɒgnə-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kon-yuh-shen-tee, kog-nuh-]
–plural noun, singular -te  /-ti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [-tee] Show IPA . persons who have superior knowledge and understanding of a particular field, esp. in the fine arts, literature, and world of fashion.

 

[Pushout]

In what language?

Joss

In cases like this, sometimes dictionary definitions are not quite accurate.
" "Joss" was a Chinese word that meant Luck and Fate and God and the Devil combined." Tai-Pan by James Clavell, page 9 of the 1983 Dell paperback reprint.