Cue shaft conditioners. Your experiences good or bad.

CaptainHook said:
Last time I ordered something from PoolDawg, they threw a bunch of Dog Wipes in with my order for Free.:D

http://www.pooldawg.com/product/dawg-wipes-shaft-cleaning-towels-by-slip-stic
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The cleaning agent in it removes greases and oils while leaving conditioner behind, it is not meant to do a deep shaft clean. The cleaner also 100% completely evaporates (it is NOT flammable and is very safe, non-allergenic)

I shaft is real dirty then follow this; wipe the shaft down, grab a magic eraser and lightly clean, then wipe again with towel. You can use a any white envelop of paper to burnish.

The wipe looks like there is almost nothing on it, on the contrary, the composition is so tiny it is difficult to notice.

Also, do not throw the wipe away, put it back in the pouch and use it again.

BTW, these wipes are a great deal! I know, they were very expensive to manufacture because of the high cost to manufacture our conditioner. They really work over and over again. When you buy product there ask them to throw you a wipe or two, and I'll replace them. Just tell them I posted this on AZbilliards forum.
 
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pete lafond said:
The cleaning agent in it removes greases and oils while leaving conditioner behind, it is not meant to do a deep shaft clean. The cleaner also 100% completely evaporates (it is NOT flammable and is very safe, non-allergenic)

I shaft is real dirty then follow this; wipe the shaft down, grab a magic eraser and lightly clean, then wipe again with towel. You can use a any white envelop of paper to burnish.

The wipe looks like there is almost nothing on it, on the contrary, the composition is so tiny it is difficult to notice.

Also, do not throw the wipe away, put it back in the pouch and use it again.

BTW, these wipes are a great deal! I know, they were very expensive to manufacture because of the high cost to manufacture our conditioner. They really work over and over again. When you buy product there ask them to throw you a wipe or two, and I'll replace them. Just tell them I posted this on AZbilliards forum.
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I did save it, I put it back in the pouch and stuck that is a Ziplock Snack bag size bag.:)
 
91 percent alcohol

Does anybody use 91 percent alcohol ? I wipe down the shaft with it every
time, after playing. It works great. Ocasionally burnish with the soft side
of a Q-wiz.
 
Info.

What started this company was the frustration that "nothing works", at least for any reasonable period of time. We found out that it is what we put on our shaft is what causes the mess. Polishes are the worst. Imagine using a polish on a table and then rubbing your hand on it. The smudge you leave is the oils and moistures you just added to it. Gets gunky. Feels great for a short moment though.

Another thing is that polishes attract oils, silicone especially. They are "oil lovers" and oils attract dirt. Yes they repel moisture, as long as you do not touch.

The culprits;
#1 is hand oils, #2 is moisture from the air and #3 what we put on the shaft. #3 creates a viscous cycle; we apply it, it starts to break down the moment of play to become a grit collector and then we re-apply it. If it says "polishes" or "slickens", you might want to consider whether using it makes sense. Instead, just using a towel will prove better results.

Powder
Even notice someone who uses powder, they use more and more, and it becomes a big mess. The reason is that the powder mixes with hand oils and moistures, then gets a gritty feel as it piles. More is needed to create another layer. Teflon coated powder will work a bit better. What you will find out is that with SlipStic Conditioner, using powder, if you must, works considerably better. Amazingly, only 1/20 and less of what you normally use is all you would ever need. The difference in feel is huge.

Our conditioner repels and does not mix with moistures and oils. It also protects the cue shaft's wood.

We spent much time in researching the cue shaft "tacky" problem, I now understand why some who sweat more than others, choose to wear a glove. If you think it looks funny, you might now consider what playing without one must feel for them.

So a towel works best, a microfiber one is tons better.
 
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Well said Pete. I've used Slipstic and Conditioner exclusively now, since I got them for nearly 2yrs ago. Great product you got there. Keep up the good work.
 
pete lafond said:
...a single application has lasted for 9 and 12 months in cases. It might be the players hands, their cue shaft or maybe both.
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Maybe they are only playing once every nine months?



Either way, It's still a great product.
 
still trying down here in the swamp

Still trying to make Slipstic work down here in the swamp. I've tried a little, a little more, and a lot. So far just a gummy mess after awhile and I don't use powder.

I mislaid the Slipstic for awhile and got sidetracked with a major surgery too. However I am currently cutting myself two new shafts. One is flat laminated maple and one is a plain maple shaft. Neither one has had Nelsonite or Resolute applied. I'll see how Slipstic works on these. I have to admit this is my final go-around with Slipstic if it doesn't work on these shafts that I know are virgin. At this point I remain unconvinced that anything beats a clean, bare burnished shaft in hot humid conditions. Cue wax works for me also but only because I have a lathe to reapply it properly as needed. The only benefit from the wax is it keeps the shaft looking a little prettier, no real playing benefit.

Hu



pete lafond said:
What started this company was the frustration that "nothing works", at least for any reasonable period of time. We found out that it is what we put on our shaft is what causes the mess. Polishes are the worst. Imagine using a polish on a table and then rubbing your hand on it. The smudge you leave is the oils and moistures you just added to it. Gets gunky. Feels great for a short moment though.

Another thing is that polishes attract oils, silicone especially. They are "oil lovers" and oils attract dirt. Yes they repel moisture, as long as you do not touch.

The culprits;
#1 is hand oils, #2 is moisture from the air and #3 what we put on the shaft. #3 creates a viscous cycle; we apply it, it starts to break down the moment of play to become a grit collector and then we re-apply it. If it says "polishes" or "slickens", you might want to consider whether using it makes sense. Instead, just using a towel will prove better results.

Powder
Even notice someone who uses powder, they use more and more, and it becomes a big mess. The reason is that the powder mixes with hand oils and moistures, then gets a gritty feel as it piles. More is needed to create another layer. Teflon coated powder will work a bit better. What you will find out is that with SlipStic Conditioner, using powder, if you must, works considerably better. Amazingly, only 1/20 and less of what you normally use is all you would ever need. The difference in feel is huge.

Our conditioner repels and does not mix with moistures and oils. It also protects the cue shaft's wood.

We spent much time in researching the cue shaft "tacky" problem, I now understand why some who sweat more than others, choose to wear a glove. If you think it looks funny, you might now consider what playing without one must feel for them.

So a towel works best, a microfiber one is tons better.
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ShootingArts said:
Still trying to make Slipstic work down here in the swamp. I've tried a little, a little more, and a lot. So far just a gummy mess after awhile and I don't use powder.

I mislaid the Slipstic for awhile and got sidetracked with a major surgery too. However I am currently cutting myself two new shafts. One is flat laminated maple and one is a plain maple shaft. Neither one has had Nelsonite or Resolute applied. I'll see how Slipstic works on these. I have to admit this is my final go-around with Slipstic if it doesn't work on these shafts that I know are virgin. At this point I remain unconvinced that anything beats a clean, bare burnished shaft in hot humid conditions. Cue wax works for me also but only because I have a lathe to reapply it properly as needed. The only benefit from the wax is it keeps the shaft looking a little prettier, no real playing benefit.

Hu
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Try a microfifer towel. If there is a lot of humidity and your hands sweat a lot, you probably need to wipe more often. Microfiber towel might be a very good solution. (also, try without wax and because of excess humidity apply and do not wipe off. Let it sit over night.)
 
Wipe regularly

pete lafond said:
Try a microfifer towel. If there is a lot of humidity and your hands sweat a lot, you probably need to wipe more often. Microfiber towel might be a very good solution. (also, try without wax and because of excess humidity apply and do not wipe off. Let it sit over night.)
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I do wipe regularly but with plain cotton, need to find the microfiber cloth. I was using the Slipstic without wax and had tried letting it sit several hours in one test and then overnight after talking to you on the phone last year. So far The shaft gets so gummy during play that I have to stop and clean it, even in midgame. Constant wiping and washing of my hands does help, but bare wood or wax works fine too if I almost constantly wipe the stick and wash my hands every fifteen to thirty minutes. About to break down and put one of those g-word things in my case but I have very wide hands so I suspect that will be an issue there.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I do wipe regularly but with plain cotton, need to find the microfiber cloth. I was using the Slipstic without wax and had tried letting it sit several hours in one test and then overnight after talking to you on the phone last year. So far The shaft gets so gummy during play that I have to stop and clean it, even in midgame. Constant wiping and washing of my hands does help, but bare wood or wax works fine too if I almost constantly wipe the stick and wash my hands every fifteen to thirty minutes. About to break down and put one of those g-word things in my case but I have very wide hands so I suspect that will be an issue there.

Hu
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Try the microfiber towel and if that does not work, yes, a glove.
 
Just got Slipstic

Motivated by this thread. I received in the mail today, (fast delivery) in a very small envelope, the product. After opening the package and reading the information I am getting a very uncomfortable feeling I have been slipped the stick. First instruction is "shake bottle" I tried to look in the bottle but did not see anything. I am sure there is somthing in there. The 10 gram container is suitable for eyedropper application. Then, we are advised the container is only 2/3 full on purpose. Huh?

We are further advised to "use nothing on your cue". Huh? ss goes on to advise we not use polish, abrasives, etc. but there is no clue what is the operational miracle chemistry of ss.

Assuming you play every week you will get chalk, grime, sweat, etc on the cue every week. So we dont clean the cue for 4-6 weeks? Are we supposed to dump the few precious drops of ss on the (very nice) burnish leather for one monthly application? (The nice leather seems almost worth the price of the tiny product)

I have not tried it yet and I will. Sorry but I am used to cleaning the cue about once a week. I am impressed with the endorsement of so many fine players. Will report future findings.

17:12 Jeez, Pete is on the phone, "walking me through" the product application. Cant believe the super customer service. This must be some great stuff.
 
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I believe I've tried every single shaft slicking product on the market and Slip Stic is the best. In between applications I wipe the shaft w/a damp towel, then a microfiber towel and burnish with leather from Justis! :D
 
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