Thanks again, everyone for the good advice. I've begun trying it out and so far am really liking it. I realize it's not a high-end custom, but everything I've read here pointed to it being a good stick to start moving off house cues with! At this point I really won't have known what to ask for on a custom cue (besides design), hopefully I'll progress to the point where a custom job makes sense!
Cue stick question
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For the money, I think it's fine. It will serve you well.
When in the market again, realize you can get a lot of cue for less if you buy used. Stick around, there are a lot of great cues that sell here. Watch and learn, you may snag a bargain and begin to understand the vast difference there can be in how cues play.
Enjoy it! :thumbup:
4.8 per the post office. They may pad the scale who knows. I will try and get it on an accurate scale and take a picture for you. It wouldn't surprise me if their scale was off a couple of tenths. It is a Schön shaft only 12.5 mm. I can tell you by feel it is heavier than most shafts I have ever felt. There is an inordinate amount of rings per inch, very small and tight grained. My extra shaft is 4.1oz and it feels considerably lighter. I can tell from my experience milling lumber for a cabinet shop, some pieces of maple can be far far heavier than other pieces of the same exact measure.
I certainly am not offended by anyone asking questions about what I have posted. I can tell you this, as the number is arbitrary to my point, i don't really have a reason to lie about it. If it was measured in error than I will admit I am wrong, however, I was told 4.8 from what should be a reliable source.
Congratulations on the purchase and like everyone said, its your cue if you like it great, if you don't return it. You'll eventually figure out what you like and don't like.
Also congrats on joining, a little advice from someone else who hasn't been on here for very long, don't bring up aiming methods or bar tables. I heard it can get you banned. J/K
Also congrats on joining, a little advice from someone else who hasn't been on here for very long, don't bring up aiming methods or bar tables. I heard it can get you banned. J/K
And don't be such a stranger. Write if you get work. :smile:
I think it's obvious there is no reason to fudge it. :smile:
Personally, I found it impressive. Especially now knowing it is a production shaft and of standard dimensions...actually even less than 13mm.
Definitely some very dense shaft wood. :thumbup:
I am curious how it plays relative to your other shafts. Sometimes we are so focused on heavy shafts being "better" I wonder where the limit is.
My 4.2 oz shafts on my Huebler play great and feel great.
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I've played the vast majority of the past 18 years with this shaft so I am obviously partial to the way it plays. I will say this when people say their cues hit a ton they are using this one as the bench mark. It moves the ball forward so effortlessly it is actually quite nerve racking to play a very soft push out or a delicate roll. Just switching to my other shaft, or other shafts I have tried on it, I feel I have to over hit every shot and I come up short alot. I do find there is a trade off of spin for speed for a given tip offset. When I play with lighter shafts I can play closer to center and get alot of spin, with this shaft I have to play closer to the miscue limit, however I can get just as much spin and I still get more forward speed then the lighter shafts. It does squirt a significant amount, having that much mass up front, however I know the shaft so well I don't ever have to think about squirt.
the shaft has a weight bolt :thumbup:
Interesting. And no real big surprises I would say. Just as one should suspect. As you say, you have played it for many years, so I know what you mean. My old Joss feels so natural I don't even thinks about it.
When playing the heavier shafts I have to adjust as you say. You really have to be subtle as they move the ball so effortlessly, or at least seem to. Playing delicate is more difficult and it's easier to over-hit everything. When changing back and forth there is a definite adjustment in this regard. Personally, I adjust to the deflection change much more quickly than that aspect.
The magnitude of the difference in your case would simply be larger I guess.
Thanks! :thumbup:
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After thinking about this for a couple days...I weighed some of my shafts
and they are 5.5 ounces. ....So 4.8 ounces is not that much.
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I had the same problem, so I bought an aluminum weight bolt so the butt cap didn't rattle.
I bought an early Joss West refinished by Richard Phillippi a few years back and the seller was ranting and raving about his 4.8 shaft. Well when i got i weighed it and sure enough 4.8. I thought pretty cool until i started to play with it. I play low draw on most shots and i can draw the heck out of the cue ball until i started to play with that shaft. It was so stiff i couldn;t draw it back 2feet. Well out to the shop and started taking it down. When it got to 4.6 i tried it and it's the best shaft i've got. Just went and weighed it again and still 4.6. So i believe in 4.8 oz shafts.
Wow.
There are still deals on Ebay.... :thumbup:
Honestly, I am curious about very dense shaft wood.
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I had the same experience with hitting low English. It is very unforgiving if you hit too close to center on a draw shot. I thought I needed a different shaft when I saw how easily I could draw with other shafts and cues. In the end I did not want to trade the difference in forward speed for easier spin control. I worked tirelessly to train my draw stroke and I can pull the ball back almost as well as anyone. I will tell you this thing stuns the ball like a dream. I can punch balls out from rails and clear across the table with even just a few degrees of cut angle. I just always have to be diligent about my stroke when playing spin.
To make sure this is helpful to the op, it seems that where the weight is on the cue can have an impact on how it plays. I would play a bit without the bolt. Shoot shots that you know well and can repeat at will and take careful note of feel vs speed vs spin. Put the bolt back in and shoot the exact same shots and see which one you like better. In the end it is going to be how much you enjoy what your playing with. You will learn to use what you have regardless.
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birdseye maple instead of Rock maple
I get maple from mich, its dense. the core wood is darker and heaver. I like the last few inches outside the core. Making shafts is truly an art. and months of turning if not years. I also like the maple underwater woods. Sheldon Lebow made me 2 great hitting shafts. they are longer too . stiffer and just dam beautiful to look at. mark
I get maple from mich, its dense. the core wood is darker and heaver. I like the last few inches outside the core. Making shafts is truly an art. and months of turning if not years. I also like the maple underwater woods. Sheldon Lebow made me 2 great hitting shafts. they are longer too . stiffer and just dam beautiful to look at. mark