Cue Tip Contact Myth-Busting Truths in Super Slow Motion

What if you stroke it a little too delicate by accident?

The cue ball, I mean.
Then the ball won't go as far so you exclude that shot from the sample.

edit: When I did my rough test I was trying to land the CB on or right next to a playing card (next to in case of actual spin differences changing the angle), but the card's length was my acceptable range of speed. I guess for really soft shots I might have to get even more precise and only accept a card width.
 
What if you stroke it a little too delicate by accident?

What if you have a @WobblyStroke, and you don't hit the cb in the exact same spot?

Beware, Patrick is serious about scientific rigor. He has repeatedly stated that proof requires a controlled test.
ha. my stroke is as pure as the driven stroke. just looks wobbly (vertically). I used a training ball and confirmed good contacts with chalk marks.
 
ha. my stroke is as pure as the driven stroke. just looks wobbly (vertically). I used a training ball and confirmed good contacts with chalk marks.
You see what I'm saying, though. Patrick wants a controlled test.

Hang the cue by some string tied to the butt and shaft, and let gravity do the work. You will be guaranteed to land on the cb at the same spot with the same speed.

There will be no question of grip tightness, deviation of contact point, tip speed, or any other possible deviation.

Moreover, with this method slow speeds are easy to reproduce and quantify...e.g. release the cue 1 inch, 2 inches, ..., 6 inches, ... etc from the cueball.
 
This is a much more "controlled" and precise method than hitting the cue ball at "lag speed" and "break speed."

Imagine doing this and measuring rebound angle and contact times with different offsets from center ball for hard and soft tips.

We might really learn something.
 
You just guessing here? Nothing that's been actually tested backs up anything you say. You got hard data/video to back up your guess? Bottom line is in REAL WORLD pool playing you will not see any difference in tip hardness. None.
Are you really that ignorant right now? If I have to stroke a hard tip with a ‘more delicate’ touch, that should be and indication that something is wrong with his claims.
 
What if you stroke it a little too delicate by accident?

What if you have a @WobblyStroke, and you don't hit the cb in the exact same spot?

5. Don't count any shot if (1) you didn't hit the far rail target, (2) the chalk mark isn't exactly on the edge of the stripe, or (3) the speed is different.

Take your time, lou - you might miss something.

pj
chgo
 
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Are you really that ignorant right now? If I have to stroke a hard tip with a ‘more delicate’ touch, that should be and indication that something is wrong with his claims.
You guys, the good Doctor is getting it way worse in the YouTube contents.

@garczar and @Patrick Johnson : Your friend needs help on YouTube. REGULATOOORS! MOUNT UP!
Both of you can demonstrate your own "scientific" experiments and post them for us to judge. I see your lips flapping, but all you are doing is making a breeze. PROVE him wrong. I can't wait to see it.
 
Both of you can demonstrate your own "scientific" experiments and post them for us to judge. I see your lips flapping, but all you are doing is making a breeze. PROVE him wrong. I can't wait to see it.

Hope you brought your lunch.

pj
chgo

You guys...seriously. Your Doctor conceded the point already...a couple of times.

Here's one:

He said you need a more delicate stroke to get the same spin with a hard tip. Why would you need a more delicate stroke if the tip hardness has negligible effect?
 
You guys...seriously. Your Doctor conceded the point already...a couple of times.

Here's one:

He said you need a more delicate stroke to get the same spin with a hard tip. Why would you need a more delicate stroke if the tip hardness has negligible effect?
Because it would be a negligible amount. My guess is your stroke isn't refined enough to do it. Mine isn't good enough either on some days.

I use a hard Moori. There are no shots with a soft tip then I cant perform with a hard tip. If I fail, it's do to a flaw in my technique, not my tip.

Put yourself out there. Make a video of your scientific experiment. Prove what you are saying. Post it for us to scrutinize. My guess is you won't. I don't think you could take the criticism you are dishing out.

Just because you are talking the loudest doesn't make you right. I want video proof.
 
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