Cue Tip Contact Myth-Busting Truths in Super Slow Motion

[Cornerman]

good list
yes prince is underrated

I saw a list that he wasnt even in the top 100! That man was a musical genius above and beyond musical geniuses. But, whatevs.

 

[garczar]

... and his fingers. Have you heard about his Super Glue trick?

I was fortunate to see him live several times before he got real famous when I was in school at UT in Austin. That was a real treat.

I saw him three times. Hard to believe just how good he played.

 

[straightline]

Uh, what's the score ?

 

[Pubo]

I say .0006 seconds is a HUGE amount of time. Prove me wrong. How much time is necessary to make a noticeable difference in spin?

time isn't an important factor in all practicality. The impact point and speed are what matters. If you want to get a long contact time, then you can only push the cue ball with very low cue speed (hit the cue ball at the speed that doesn't separate the tip and ball), but that produces almost no spin.

 

[Pubo]

Probably not, but a good hard leather tip might be a good choice for all the reasons here:

why a hard tip is better than a soft tip​

I have the same question, why is it not suitable to use a phenolic tip in normal gameplay? For example my bakelite break tip holds chalk well, then there shouldn't be any problem with it, right? btw, I've read thru the tip hardness page.

 

[Bob Jewett]

I have the same question, why is it not suitable to use a phenolic tip in normal gameplay? ...

One good reason is that it damages the cue ball. Technically, it is against the equipment specs. Another good reason is that many phenolic tips don't hold chalk very well.

 

[dendweller]

I think you’d be surprised how many people know of Stevie Ray Vaughan. In 1984, he performed on the Grammys when the Grammys was still watched. Pretty main stream. Prior to that, I would say only people who had interest in playing or listening to guitar really knew of him. But the Grammys was main stream. At the time, I would have said the best guitarists were:

Hendrix
Eddie Van Halen
Jimmy Page
Jeff Beck
Carlo Santana
Stevie Ray

I didn’t know how great Eric Clapton or Prince (the most underrated guitarist ever) were at the time.

Familiar with Robben Ford?

 

[straightline]

Familiar with Robben Ford?

Outstanding in the rocking bluesy jazz licks dept.

You have to be real specific on this forum.

 

[dendweller]

Outstanding in the rocking bluesy jazz licks dept.

You have to be real specific on this forum.

Saw him live with a trio a few years back. Like SRV and Van Halen, seems like he was born to play guitar.

 

[straightline]

Never seen him live though I walked past him at a convention in the 90s. Definitely a giant in his own right.

 

[Cornerman]

Familiar with Robben Ford?

Not at all.

 

[dr_dave]

I have the same question, why is it not suitable to use a phenolic tip in normal gameplay? For example my bakelite break tip holds chalk well, then there shouldn't be any problem with it, right? btw, I've read thru the tip hardness page.

If the tip holds chalk well, and can get maximum spin on the ball (close to the miscue limit), and doesn't damage the CB, and you don't mind the added hit efficiency (energy transfer), and you don't mind the sound and feel of the hit, it could be a good choice. It will certainly last a long time and won't need to be maintained or changed often (if at all). I like the idea.

PS: Stay tuned for my follow-up video, which I hope to post soon. My BK Rush cue with a phenolic-like BK Hybrid tip performs just as well as the soft and medium hardness tips I tested.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

If the tip holds chalk well

I use a Tip Pik on my phenolic break/jump tip so it'll take chalk well.

But even if it goes on well, I wonder if chalk works as well on phenolic as it does on leather. Does making both surfaces so hard increase miscues?

pj
chgo

 

[dr_dave]

But even if it goes on well, I wonder if chalk works as well on phenolic as it does on leather. Does making both surfaces so hard increase miscues?

That's what I would expect with most phenolic tips. However, my phenolic-like BK Hybrid tip performed well in the video I will be posting soon.

 

[dendweller]

I use a Tip Pik on my phenolic break/jump tip so it'll take chalk well.

But even if it goes on well, I wonder if chalk works as well on phenolic as it does on leather. Does making both surfaces so hard increase miscues?

pj
chgo

If I over compress a triangle I rip it off and try again. I can't imaging playing with a phenolic tip.

 

[garczar]

White Diamond's actually play pretty good.

 

[telinoz]

On the Snooker scene, Mark Williams is about the only professional playing with a hard tip.
The rest are soft tips.

All use Taom now, except for two not bad players. Ha ha.

 

[alphadog]

On the Snooker scene, Mark Williams is about the only professional playing with a hard tip.
The rest are soft tips.

All use Taom now, except for two not bad players. Ha ha.

Maybe because one is known to bite the tip off and doesn't like the taste of Taom

 

[garczar]

O'Sullivan still using Triangle chalk or he is he swillin the Taom-ade?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Maybe because one is known to bite the tip off and doesn't like the taste of Taom

Please tell me that happened in a fit of rage. And that there's video.

pj
chgo