Cuemaker turnaround time !

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WilleeCue said:
Here is yet another prime example of a non cue maker telling other cue makers all about their business.
I have a cue making business and I order shafts 50 or so at a time.
I have on hand about 60 in various stages of process.
Are you really gonna come on here and tell me that isnt enough to support my business?

Perhaps I sound a bit harsh and I understand that you think you might become more popular if you follow the flow of popular logic but I would respect you a lot more (and might even give you a rep) if you would have added "IN MY HUMBLE OPINION" to that post.
It would still be wrong but no so offensive.
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You are correct in saying it's each persons responsibility to know what his inventory needs to be. Just need to go by the numbers. If I were building 2 cues a year I don't believe I would need an inventory of 500 shafts. Every cue maker also has his own criteria as far as how long it takes to turn a shaft to final specs. If the turnings or time between turnings is shorter, then of coarse, you can get by with less inventory.

I, myself, always have around 500 blanks in rotation. I make over 200 finished shafts a year for my cues and repair work. When new blanks enter my shop they may sit around 6 months, acclimatizing, before the first turn is made. I make 8 passes waiting a minimum of 6 weeks between passes. This is a minimum of another year. There will be a number discarded along the way. So, as far as I see, building 50 or 60 cues a year and doing repair work, 500 is the minimum that is needed. With only 60 shafts, in various stages of completion, in inventory, it doesn't give many shafts, per month, (4 or 5) for building cues or repair, at least when using my turning schedule.

Dick
 
secretsquirrel said:
I am not sure about all cue makers but I DO know this. The guy who built my cue tended to be on a shoestring but he still maxed out his credit cards to buy 10,000 shaft blanks and dowels, most of which he burned or sold to other cue makers of less than stellar quality control. 100 shaft blanks? Not even close to enough to support a cue business in my opinion. My cue builder still has probably 500 and doesn't even build cues anymore some of which we turned back in 1991 it takes alot of time and care to make sure you get the very best.
Best wishes to Mr. Wheat and good luck in your endeavors you may need it.
Larry
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Please PM me his name and number.............
 
rhncue said:
Exactly! Mr. Ed made a number of comments on ways of doing repair or techniques that I never agreed with and some on this forum chirped up and let him know that there were much better ways of doing what he was expounding on. I never once made a comment on his -blunders- . I finally had enough of his self proclaimed "professional opinion" when he got on this cue makers forum and tried to use it as his private message board to his customers, that he stated that no one else was allowed to respond to, to let them know that he wouldn't be able to make his promised completion dates on the cues he had taken a deposit for, because he never had the shaft wood. A number of people started proclaiming how honest and up front he was for making this statement. That was the last straw as far as I was concerned. I, now could see that people were actually falling for his 100% B/S sales, experience and technique claims. The man has absolutely no integrity. He will do and say anything to make a sale and get into a customers pocket. The minute that he took a customers order, he new what materials he had on hand to fill their order. Plastics, metal hardware and finish can be ordered and immediately installed into a cue. The wood that is used, however, can not. It must acclimatize, age and be incrementally turned to have any chance of being stable for future use. Delays can happen. If he had said his shop burned down, or the plastic manufacturer was on strike or he fell off the roof and broke both his arms then I could understand him letting his customers know there would be a delay. No shaft wood? What possible kind of excuse is that? Different builders have different rates of incrementally turning their shafts. I've heard people state anywhere from 3 months to 10 years. The thing is, it is not something that can be done overnight. Every cue maker knows how much wood he has in reserve, ready to build cues with. When Mr. Ed was taking his orders he knew exactly how much wood he had on hand to use. It was no surprise or shock when he found he was short to fill orders. Why did he promise this quick turn around, when he knew there was no possible way that he could meet the time schedule. He wanted the MONEY. It made no difference how many lies he had to tell as long as he got the MONEY.

Yes Joey I AM in financial ruins... I'm very deperate to make money at this moment

The red comment was made by eddie himself in post #92 of the infamous "Let's set the record straight" thread that has been added to the long list of eddie's deleted or closed threads.

Cue makers have to have some integrity to survive. A lot of them work on a shoestring so can't afford to buy supplies in larger quantities so as to get better price breaks. So now they must charge a little more or not make as much profit as other, shall we say, better established cue makers. They often need some money up front just to buy supplies and so on. Hence, many want a deposit somewhere between 20.00 to 100%. Why would anyone in this world send another this amount of money for something he will not receive for anywhere from a few weeks to a few years? One reason, trust in the integrity of the cue maker he is doing business with. When people like Mr. Ed, and a few others, lie and steal to get into a customers pocket, it doesn't just hurt him but it hurts the entire industry. Customers don't trust sending a deposit or buying on line as the chance of being conned increases daily. If the cue makers don't try to police their own ranks or at least try to warn the unwary, then they are just as responsible as the culprit who is actually doing the larceny. This is just my opinion but I will always stand by it.

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I believe you have nailed it right on the head....:speechless:
 
secretsquirrel said:
Post so edited, you are correct, it is my opinion and I also know that for every 5 good shafts he got he wound up throwing 5 away due to imperfections during final turning and finishing. Also you are correct in saying that I am not a cue builder but, I did work with one as his beyotch, and repair guy for quite awhile.So I did see alot of what you guys go through and I do feel for you for all the bad things that can happen while you exercise your creativity.
Thanks for your time.
Larry
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IF HE THREW THAT MANY AWAY HE WAS GETTING BAD PRODUCT TO START WITH OR BEING OVER PICKY WHEN I SELL SHAFTS I DO THE FIRST CUT AND GRADE BEST I CAN, THEN DIP AND HANG I GET VERY LITTLE REJECTS PROPER WOOD SELECTION FOR SHAFTS START WHEN BUYING LOGS A LITTL TID BIT OF INFO AFTER LOGS ARE CUT THEY NEED TO STORED INSIDE NOT IN THE SUNLIGHT OR WEATHER THE BEST SHAFT WOOD IN THE WORLD COMES FROM THE UPPER PART OF THE LOWER PENNINSULA OF MICHIGAN I HAVE LEARNED LOTS OF NEW THINGS IN THE PAST 2YEARS GETTING INTO SHAFTS
 
never mind...read the other thread and your own words are better than anything I could ever create. Customer service at its finest sir.
 
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Charlie Edwards said:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=109420&page=3

For anyone interested, Eddie states yesterday 8-15-08 in post #92 on the above link that my cue is now "DONE". This is the 4TH time I've heard this. I hope this time is the charm, and that I can put this sad chapter behind me. I trust there will be no problem for him to ship it immediately. We'll see. Anyone want to make some bets? LOL.
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I tried to offer Mr. Edwards partial refunds a few times along with the cue but he politley told me to keep it and put it back into my business... He appreciated the gesture and was very sincere about the response !

I have done everything I can do on a professional level to make up for the delay besides a full refund which at this point I cannot do becasue the cue is DONE !
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You should have it this week then, Right Post some pictures!!!!!!
 
Brian said:
Where is Mr. Wilson when you need him? Please don't lock the thread Mr. Wilson. Let it continue as a warning for others that may be curious as to the true nature of wheat.This is not a case of "dog piling". wheat creates the situation, expounds on numerous excuses ,plays the background music of poor poor pitiful me and then attacks Mr. Edwards all the while keeping Mr. Edwards money. If this is only a matter between the seller and buyer then why is AZB allowed to be used as a platform for irresponsible posts and disreputable business practices from and by wheat?Mr. Wilson if you have followed this thread as well as the NPR thread that you locked you would see that Mr. Edwards has been nothing other then a class act and was taken advantage of by wheat.Mr. wheat's excuses are like a cat taking a dump on a marble floor and trying to cover it up.Is there a point in time when AZB says enough is enough with disreputable sellers?
Brian
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Eddie has said he will ship the cue to Charlie this week.
Lets all just wait and see ... perhaps this issue is about to be resolved.
Then we can all go back to the standard issue like what is the best tip or who makes the best cue.

I think I will start a new thread about tips and shafts.
 
Ah Fooey

This must be some kind of new wave advertising technique that Eddie is employing. We'll call it CBS (chastise barbeque an ship) its got my attention. Charlie I'm so sure when you get your new cue it will be love at first sight. Eddie you've convinced me I'm ready to place my order an take the abuse. I know I've got it coming I've been a bad boy.
Pinocchio
 
WilleeCue said:
I think I will start a new thread about tips and shafts.
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LOL... Make it about deflection/squirt. Then add in a little curve/swerve and you'll have a real winner. I guarantee you'll get plenty of action on it.
 
WilleeCue said:
Eddie has said he will ship the cue to Charlie this week.
Lets all just wait and see ... perhaps this issue is about to be resolved.
Then we can all go back to the standard issue like what is the best tip or who makes the best cue.

I think I will start a new thread about tips and shafts.
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Fair enough WilleeCue.While we wait and see perhaps we could revisit the first post from the the person that started this thread.Here is a partial quote:

"I'm currently pushing 90-120 days turnaround time... do you as cuemakers and customers feel this is reasonable or too short or too long for the average completion time ????"

The foregoing was written on 16 July 2008.When this thread was started Mr.Edwards 120 days had already come and gone.I am pulling for Mr.Edwards to get his cue or a refund.I only wish some of Mr.Edwards humanity would rub off on me.He is actually able to forgive his trespasser.
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Charlie Edwards said:
For the record, I would prefer my money back. That's not going to happen. My second choice would be to get the cue. After all, I paid for it. Now you're starting to make excuses why I won't get that either.

You can come on here and talk and blabber away, try to change the subject and talk as much trash as you can think of. It doesn't matter. On this forum you've pulled down your pants and showed your ass so many times no one even remotely takes you seriously.

And the part about you not wanting all the money up front; I was buying a cue that was to be ready to ship in a couple of weeks. Why would I not want to pay for it all at once? You are a piece of work, Eddie, and you're grasping at straws.

Four times now you've claimed this cue was ready to ship. What are you waiting for? If you don't ship it now it will prove what I actually believe has happened here, and that's that you don't have the cue to ship. Prove me wrong or prove me right, it's your choice.

Talk all you want but here are the FACTS; over 7 months ago I paid $700 for a cue that was to be delivered in a few weeks. I've not received it. Simple, end of story.

Those are the facts Eddie. Now stay on the topic, and stop side stepping the real issues here.

The truth all along would have worked in this deal. I never got that from you. Instead you pulled out all the stoppers and gave me one story after another. I'm no fool, Eddie. It's sad for that you can't see that YOU are the one here that's wrong, 100% wrong. But that's your problem.

Let's forget about the cue or money for a moment. I can live without them. The most important thing is for you, Eddie Wheat, to decide which direction you want your life to go. If you keep doing things the way I've seen you do them you are going to have a bleak future. The very first thing you have to do is STOP blaming other people when things don't go right for you.
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I have NOT blamed anyone else for my delays I have accepted 100% responsibility for ALL of them especially since it's all MY fault one way or the other... but I could have chose to lie and make up other technical excuses that would have sufficed and not be deplicted but I chose to be honest about the exact reason of the delays and I was riduculed for it !

Well all I can say is about that is how many other cuemakers would have fessed up about making dumb errors like that in fear that it might "tarnish" thier delicate image and fragile ego ???

As you can see I have thick skin and will be the first one to admit to my customers and the general public when and how I screw up !!!

I like the honest approach regarding the cause of delays and whether or not you accept it... I'm sure you can appreciate it to a degree !

I think you coming on here and overreacting about my past record was uncalled for becasue you ARE my customer and I value that and would never ever rip off or scam you in anyway....

Once again, I do have your cue... I am making damn sure the clearcoat is NOT going to peel again and especially after you recieve it and "before you smash it into a million" peices :grin: and that is my primary concern at this moment !

I do NOT produce shoddy or half-assed work and do not expect you to accept that either... now mabey YOU do NOT approve of my ethics, but you can be damn sure the rest of my past/pending customers DO !

I cannot change your opinion of me and the ARNOT stunt really went over well.. but I'm sure KARMA will find a suitable reward for his unwarranted actions against me.... so with that being said I'm once again truly sorry that I made you feel like I was taking advantage of your generosity and upfront payment... I can assure you that was not the case but I don't expect you to understand or believe me becasue according to you I'm more or less "scum" !

As for the rest of the thrill-seekers on here... all they are interested in reading is negative comments about me... this has been proven in the past becasue everytime some has posted anything positive, about me or my work thier efforts were exploited... so this should give a good example of the mentality of the few "key" troublemakers that want to see people fail namely me because I CAN and DO build quality custom cues at alot lower prices and less time then the majority out there and whether these clowns are cuemakers themselves or loyal supporters of their idols "in hopes that thier protective retorts will get them a huge discount on thier next cue " chime in and bash me with hopes to try to crash my business and run me off of AZB...

I see right through all of this tactical approach and play my hand accordingly with them but you are of value to me becasue you ARE my customer and I do NOT like dissapointing them.. but sh*t happened and I'm sorry for the delays, I AM human and make mistakes and errors.. I don't mind publicizing them becasue my life is an open book and I have pretty much always lived in the spotlight... so I have nothing to hide !

I jumped the gun for telling you your cue was fininshed and assumed nothing could go wrong as I have successfuly done numerous times but it took one cue to ruin that and everytime I began working on it I was a little more wary and was so damn worried about screwing it up that I did !!!

So with that being said... I learned a very valuable lesson here and will NOT make the same mistake again....

UNless there is anyone else out there who is above making a mistake and think they are perfect.. and can prove it... don't bother retorting with some smart-ass response regarding my errors/mistakes becasue atleast I AM man enough to admit them publically instead of hiding behind a fictious name and no pic of themselves and act like they can do NO wrong !

Of course there is Dave38 "an inspiring cuemaker" who uses me as a tool and opportunity to get in good with every cuemaker that he can on here who's toes im stepping on by constantly bashing me in hopes of gaining gold stars with these cuemakers and get FREE advice and pointers on cuemaking so his motives are ulterior and very transparant but that's ok with me becasue he's just a bottom feeder and I accept that about him and have no hard feelings or personal problems and cannot blame him for his logic and tactics....

Myself on the other hand are very fortunate to have Pete Ohman as my mentor/friend and Pete is also greatful to have Dennis Searing as his mentor/friend so the trickle down effect is quite awesome and mabey one of these days when I get my sh*t together and get organized and properly inventoried I may be just as successful and as respected as they are but that remains to be seen....


Take care Charlie, and your cue will be in your hands shortly with partial compenstaion as I insisted on several times !



- Eddie Wheat
 
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WheatCues said:
I have NOT blamed anyone else for my delays I have accepted 100% responsibility for ALL of them especially since it's all MY fault one way or the other... but I could have chose to lie and make up other technical excuses that would have sufficed and not be deplicted but I chose to be honest about the exact reason of the delays and I was riduculed for it !

Well all I can say is about that is how many other cuemakers would have fessed up about making dumb errors like that in fear that it might "tarnish" thier delicate image and fragile ego ???

As you can see I have thick skin and will be the first one to admit to my customers and the general public when and how I screw up !!!

I like the honest approach regarding the cause of delays and whether or not you accept it... I'm sure you can appreciate it to a degree !

I think you coming on here and overreacting about my past record was uncalled for becasue you ARE my customer and I value that and would never ever rip off or scam you in anyway....

Once again, I do have your cue... I am making damn sure the clearcoat is NOT going to peel again and especially after you recieve it and "before you smash it into a million" peices :grin: and that is my primary concern at this moment !

I do NOT produce shoddy or half-assed work and do not expect you to accept that either... now mabey YOU do NOT approve of my ethics, but you can be damn sure the rest of my past/pending customers DO !

I cannot change your opinion of me and the ARNOT stunt really went over well.. but I'm sure KARMA will find a suitable reward for his unwarranted actions against me.... so with that being said I'm once again truly sorry that I made you feel like I was taking advantage of your generosity and upfront payment... I can assure you that was not the case but I don't expect you to understand or believe me becasue according to you I'm more or less "scum" !

As for the rest of the thrill-seekers on here... all they are interested in reading is negative comments about me... this has been proven in the past becasue everytime some has posted anything positive, about me or my work thier efforts were exploited... so this should give a good example of the mentality of the few "key" troublemakers that want to see people fail namely me because I CAN and DO build quality custom cues at alot lower prices and less time then the majority out there and whether these clowns are cuemakers themselves or loyal supporters of their idols "in hopes that thier protective retorts will get them a huge discount on thier next cue " chime in and bash me with hopes to try to crash my business and run me off of AZB...

I see right through all of this tactical approach and play my hand accordingly with them but you are of value to me becasue you ARE my customer and I do NOT like dissapointing them.. but sh*t happened and I'm sorry for the delays, I AM human and make mistakes and errors.. I don't mind publicizing them becasue my life is an open book and I have pretty much always lived in the spotlight... so I have nothing to hide !

I jumped the gun for telling you your cue was fininshed and assumed nothing could go wrong as I have successfuly done numerous times but it took one cue to ruin that and everytime I began working on it I was a little more wary and was so damn worried about screwing it up that I did !!!

So with that being said... I learned a very valuable lesson here and will NOT make the same mistake again....

UNless there is anyone else out there who is above making a mistake and think they are perfect.. and can prove it... don't bother retorting with some smart-ass response regarding my errors/mistakes becasue atleast I AM man enough to admit them publically instead of hiding behind a fictious name and no pic of themselves and act like they can do NO wrong !

Of course there is Dave38 "an inspiring cuemaker" who uses me as a tool and opportunity to get in good with every cuemaker that he can on here who's toes im stepping on by constantly bashing me in hopes of gaining gold stars with these cuemakers and get FREE advice and pointers on cuemaking so his motives are ulterior and very transparant but that's ok with me becasue he's just a bottom feeder and I accept that about him and have no hard feelings or personal problems and cannot blame him for his logic and tactics....

Myself on the other hand are very fortunate to have Pete Ohman as my mentor/friend and Pete is also greatful to have Dennis Searing as his mentor/friend so the trickle down effect is quite awesome and mabey one of these days when I get my sh*t together and get organized and properly inventoried I may be just as successful and as respected as they are but that remains to be seen....


Take care Charlie, and your cue will be in your hands shortly with partial compenstaion as I insisted on several times !


- Eddie Wheat
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WheatCues said:
I have NOT blamed anyone else for my delays I have accepted 100% responsibility for ALL of them especially since it's all MY fault one way or the other... but I could have chose to lie and make up other technical excuses that would have sufficed and not be deplicted but I chose to be honest about the exact reason of the delays and I was riduculed for it !

Well all I can say is about that is how many other cuemakers would have fessed up about making dumb errors like that in fear that it might "tarnish" thier delicate image and fragile ego ???

As you can see I have thick skin and will be the first one to admit to my customers and the general public when and how I screw up !!!

I like the honest approach regarding the cause of delays and whether or not you accept it... I'm sure you can appreciate it to a degree !

I think you coming on here and overreacting about my past record was uncalled for becasue you ARE my customer and I value that and would never ever rip off or scam you in anyway....

Once again, I do have your cue... I am making damn sure the clearcoat is NOT going to peel again and especially after you recieve it and "before you smash it into a million" peices :grin: and that is my primary concern at this moment !

I do NOT produce shoddy or half-assed work and do not expect you to accept that either... now mabey YOU do NOT approve of my ethics, but you can be damn sure the rest of my past/pending customers DO !

I cannot change your opinion of me and the ARNOT stunt really went over well.. but I'm sure KARMA will find a suitable reward for his unwarranted actions against me.... so with that being said I'm once again truly sorry that I made you feel like I was taking advantage of your generosity and upfront payment... I can assure you that was not the case but I don't expect you to understand or believe me becasue according to you I'm more or less "scum" !

As for the rest of the thrill-seekers on here... all they are interested in reading is negative comments about me... this has been proven in the past becasue everytime some has posted anything positive, about me or my work thier efforts were exploited... so this should give a good example of the mentality of the few "key" troublemakers that want to see people fail namely me because I CAN and DO build quality custom cues at alot lower prices and less time then the majority out there and whether these clowns are cuemakers themselves or loyal supporters of their idols "in hopes that thier protective retorts will get them a huge discount on thier next cue " chime in and bash me with hopes to try to crash my business and run me off of AZB...

I see right through all of this tactical approach and play my hand accordingly with them but you are of value to me becasue you ARE my customer and I do NOT like dissapointing them.. but sh*t happened and I'm sorry for the delays, I AM human and make mistakes and errors.. I don't mind publicizing them becasue my life is an open book and I have pretty much always lived in the spotlight... so I have nothing to hide !

I jumped the gun for telling you your cue was fininshed and assumed nothing could go wrong as I have successfuly done numerous times but it took one cue to ruin that and everytime I began working on it I was a little more wary and was so damn worried about screwing it up that I did !!!

So with that being said... I learned a very valuable lesson here and will NOT make the same mistake again....

UNless there is anyone else out there who is above making a mistake and think they are perfect.. and can prove it... don't bother retorting with some smart-ass response regarding my errors/mistakes becasue atleast I AM man enough to admit them publically instead of hiding behind a fictious name and no pic of themselves and act like they can do NO wrong !

Of course there is Dave38 "an inspiring cuemaker" who uses me as a tool and opportunity to get in good with every cuemaker that he can on here who's toes im stepping on by constantly bashing me in hopes of gaining gold stars with these cuemakers and get FREE advice and pointers on cuemaking so his motives are ulterior and very transparant but that's ok with me becasue he's just a bottom feeder and I accept that about him and have no hard feelings or personal problems and cannot blame him for his logic and tactics....

Myself on the other hand are very fortunate to have Pete Ohman as my mentor/friend and Pete is also greatful to have Dennis Searing as his mentor/friend so the trickle down effect is quite awesome and mabey one of these days when I get my sh*t together and get organized and properly inventoried I may be just as successful and as respected as they are but that remains to be seen....


Take care Charlie, and your cue will be in your hands shortly with partial compenstaion as I insisted on several times !



- Eddie Wheat
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I appreciate your calm and civil reply. I'll take you for your word and I'll wait for my cue. When I get it I will give it a very honest and sincere review. And I won't be overly critical, but I will be truthful. Take care.
 
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WheatCues said:
I have NOT blamed anyone else for my delays I have accepted 100% responsibility for ALL of them especially since it's all MY fault one way or the other... but I could have chose to lie and make up other technical excuses that would have sufficed and not be deplicted but I chose to be honest about the exact reason of the delays and I was riduculed for it !

Well all I can say is about that is how many other cuemakers would have fessed up about making dumb errors like that in fear that it might "tarnish" thier delicate image and fragile ego ???

As you can see I have thick skin and will be the first one to admit to my customers and the general public when and how I screw up !!!

I like the honest approach regarding the cause of delays and whether or not you accept it... I'm sure you can appreciate it to a degree !

I think you coming on here and overreacting about my past record was uncalled for becasue you ARE my customer and I value that and would never ever rip off or scam you in anyway....

Once again, I do have your cue... I am making damn sure the clearcoat is NOT going to peel again and especially after you recieve it and "before you smash it into a million" peices :grin: and that is my primary concern at this moment !

I do NOT produce shoddy or half-assed work and do not expect you to accept that either... now mabey YOU do NOT approve of my ethics, but you can be damn sure the rest of my past/pending customers DO !

I cannot change your opinion of me and the ARNOT stunt really went over well.. but I'm sure KARMA will find a suitable reward for his unwarranted actions against me.... so with that being said I'm once again truly sorry that I made you feel like I was taking advantage of your generosity and upfront payment... I can assure you that was not the case but I don't expect you to understand or believe me becasue according to you I'm more or less "scum" !

As for the rest of the thrill-seekers on here... all they are interested in reading is negative comments about me... this has been proven in the past becasue everytime some has posted anything positive, about me or my work thier efforts were exploited... so this should give a good example of the mentality of the few "key" troublemakers that want to see people fail namely me because I CAN and DO build quality custom cues at alot lower prices and less time then the majority out there and whether these clowns are cuemakers themselves or loyal supporters of their idols "in hopes that thier protective retorts will get them a huge discount on thier next cue " chime in and bash me with hopes to try to crash my business and run me off of AZB...

I see right through all of this tactical approach and play my hand accordingly with them but you are of value to me becasue you ARE my customer and I do NOT like dissapointing them.. but sh*t happened and I'm sorry for the delays, I AM human and make mistakes and errors.. I don't mind publicizing them becasue my life is an open book and I have pretty much always lived in the spotlight... so I have nothing to hide !

I jumped the gun for telling you your cue was fininshed and assumed nothing could go wrong as I have successfuly done numerous times but it took one cue to ruin that and everytime I began working on it I was a little more wary and was so damn worried about screwing it up that I did !!!

So with that being said... I learned a very valuable lesson here and will NOT make the same mistake again....

UNless there is anyone else out there who is above making a mistake and think they are perfect.. and can prove it... don't bother retorting with some smart-ass response regarding my errors/mistakes becasue atleast I AM man enough to admit them publically instead of hiding behind a fictious name and no pic of themselves and act like they can do NO wrong !

Of course there is Dave38 "an inspiring cuemaker" who uses me as a tool and opportunity to get in good with every cuemaker that he can on here who's toes im stepping on by constantly bashing me in hopes of gaining gold stars with these cuemakers and get FREE advice and pointers on cuemaking so his motives are ulterior and very transparant but that's ok with me becasue he's just a bottom feeder and I accept that about him and have no hard feelings or personal problems and cannot blame him for his logic and tactics....

Myself on the other hand are very fortunate to have Pete Ohman as my mentor/friend and Pete is also greatful to have Dennis Searing as his mentor/friend so the trickle down effect is quite awesome and mabey one of these days when I get my sh*t together and get organized and properly inventoried I may be just as successful and as respected as they are but that remains to be seen....


Take care Charlie, and your cue will be in your hands shortly with partial compenstaion as I insisted on several times !



- Eddie Wheat
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"Myself on the other hand are very fortunate to have Pete Ohman as my mentor/friend and Pete is also greatful to have Dennis Searing as his mentor/friend so the trickle down effect is quite awesome and mabey one of these days when I get my sh*t together and get organized and properly inventoried I may be just as successful and as respected as they are but that remains to be seen.."

Yes, I've read how Dennis feels about what you've learned through the trickle down effect. LOL

Dick
 
I can't wait!

Charlie Edwards said:
........ When I get it I will give it a very honest and sincere review.........
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This is what I (and I'm sure a lot of others) have been waiting for....an actual review.

Can't wait Charlie! Don't forget pictures.
 
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