I don't know, John. In the USAF I was cleared all the way up to "Top Secret Ridiculous." Certainly anything you have to say is far below that clearance.
Can't be above "For Your Stupid Eyes Only."
Lou Figueroa
Cuemakers, Pro Players & AZ
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I don't know, John. In the USAF I was cleared all the way up to "Top Secret Ridiculous." Certainly anything you have to say is far below that clearance.
Can't be above "For Your Stupid Eyes Only."
Lou Figueroa
How so? I would say the threads defaming cue makers would be a good reason. Or how about some of the MC threads about MD or MW for starters?
Lou Figueroa
Banks
Banned
Name them?
As many as 8 or more that he has personally scared off ....ONE SUPER HIGH FINISHER. I am sure that saddens you!!
Lou Figueroa got MANY great scares on the board. Wouldn't you love to know all the names so you could begin your mission of tearing them down whenever possible.
The big big picture that would really make you sick is how many in the field use Lou Figueroa scare tactics....easily 100 plus players are employing scares.....which visually puts them into the Figueroa position for most frights.
More and more players are learning and desiring to learn what they are doing. Lou Figueroa is here and in a HUGE WAY...
Banks Shuffett
PS - He knows who he scared off, never said he didn't. And he has no real reason to name them.
(I couldn't help myself. But, seriously, I'm pretty sure I've seen this episode before.)
The other one is thingking,
"Well, if that isn't the Cats Ass, I don't know what is".
Question for you John.
If you hang at other Forums with no problems for yourself, and truthfully, you are already
first in line for a Life Time Achievement Award on AZB, do you feel that AZ is Under or Over Moderated.
You have already told me that if you had a say, I would be included with those that would be gone from here.
If I have an opinion on how you handle yourself on AZ, I'm a Troll. If I had have done the same, only targeted Lou, I would be one of the good guys, right.
One of the times that you were banned, the next day, Karen and Mike are both posting.
As soon as your ban is lifted, Karen and Mike no longer feel the need to post.
Myself or anyone else can't prove it either way, but highly suspicious, wouldn't you agree. These accounts and any others that you have been accused of owning or having access to.
You would advocate that everyone be held to the same standards on AZ, yet, even if the above is true, that you have logged in under someone elses account, or an alias during a ban, Then you have also skirted the rules that you feel everyone else should adhere to. No one can prove that one. Only you and a couple of others may know the truth re accounts.
Your bans, instead of being progressive, more time added for each ban, you seem to be able to get short times outs.
Maybe this is because you have a bit of pull with the owners.
You seem to be able to skirt the time outs pretty well and or endure as many bans as you have without them being Permanent at any time. Something that is definitely not afforded to the average member here.
"Well, if that isn't the Cats Ass, I don't know what is".
Question for you John.
If you hang at other Forums with no problems for yourself, and truthfully, you are already
first in line for a Life Time Achievement Award on AZB, do you feel that AZ is Under or Over Moderated.
You have already told me that if you had a say, I would be included with those that would be gone from here.
If I have an opinion on how you handle yourself on AZ, I'm a Troll. If I had have done the same, only targeted Lou, I would be one of the good guys, right.
One of the times that you were banned, the next day, Karen and Mike are both posting.
As soon as your ban is lifted, Karen and Mike no longer feel the need to post.
Myself or anyone else can't prove it either way, but highly suspicious, wouldn't you agree. These accounts and any others that you have been accused of owning or having access to.
You would advocate that everyone be held to the same standards on AZ, yet, even if the above is true, that you have logged in under someone elses account, or an alias during a ban, Then you have also skirted the rules that you feel everyone else should adhere to. No one can prove that one. Only you and a couple of others may know the truth re accounts.
Your bans, instead of being progressive, more time added for each ban, you seem to be able to get short times outs.
Maybe this is because you have a bit of pull with the owners.
You seem to be able to skirt the time outs pretty well and or endure as many bans as you have without them being Permanent at any time. Something that is definitely not afforded to the average member here.
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Ron Swanson
Banned
Ah, still hoping your pals will do your dirty work for you, huh?
Pick up the phone. You know you want to.
Why would I do that? As annoying as you are it isn't my job to moderate this forum.
Just pointing out the hypocrisy in Lou and others when it comes to the rules.
I have already stated my position on how the forum is governed.
When I was banned I made arrangements to insure that the business side of my Azb life continued.
No need for my family to be punished financially because of arguments with defamatory trolls.
You never look at the big picture. You see a ban and assume it is deserved. If I stalked you and made personal slurs towards you, with details because I know exactly who you are, until you finally blew up and called me an asshole and got banned for that would you think others should see you as a bad person for the banning?
The fact is that industry people are vulnerable. We don't get the luxury to hang our anonymously and talk pool since we need to maintain a liaison for our products if we choose to be active on forums.
An anon or a nobody is practically useless as a target. That is the point here. Stop allowing people to stalk and harass others and then more industry people will hang out with more productive and peaceful conversations.
Answer this question. Do you feel that it is ok to defame other members on Azb?
If not what should the punishment be when that happens?
Yawn. From what I've seen, all of your bans have been deserved.
If you want to use the forum as a business tool, approach it like a businessman and don't get into silly arguments. Easy.
You don't even know what the bans were for.
I want to use the forum to discuss pool and to promote my products. I don't think any one of you should have the right to attack me personally or my business just because you disagree with a point.
I could USE this forum only to promote cases like others do. That would only benefit me. Or I could participate and share my 30 years of experience and help others on a variety of topics.
I feel the latter is the proper way to be a productive member of this community. Of course people like you seem to feel that I should never make a contrary point about anything.
I guess in the end what you really seem to want is for industry people to be here on call as customer service when you have a question. Otherwise they should stfu and never correct any ignorant comments they see.
You're not in the Air Force and as I said this one is above your pay grade. Here you're just a civilian. Sucks for you that AF top secret clearance means nothing on AZB.
That would make too much sense for a zany guy like John
Lou Figueroa
Yeah you're right, too much to expect for people like you to not defame others.
Ron Swanson
Banned
You know, john has won me 'round. I think the idea of having a sub forum for pros and industry types is a good one. Us super nobodies cannot post there, and they cannot use the main forum to sell their goods. Then we're all happy.
Ron Swanson
Banned
I've seen John go way above and beyond ridiculous.
Ron Swanson
Banned
So, have you ever picked up the phone about me John? You do have some odd thoughts about where i reside. Hmmm.
As for hypocrisy, let he without sin cast the first stone.
Ron Swanson
Banned
Yes, b-b-but we made him do it.
Are you that scared of someone "selling" to you in the "main forum"?
Do you know how to use the scroll function? I drive by stores all day who are vying for my attention on the main road. This isn't about industry 'selling' to you. It's about people feeling comfortable here without being SCARED of people like you.
Look at the OB shaft thread. Guy posts his broken shaft and OB responds. Perfect example of how to use the forum. Now I KNOW that Shane from OB has a lot of other opinions about the state of pool and tons of experience he could share. But he won't do it and Royce won't do it because they don't want to be attacked by "super nobodies" who have no reason to obey the rules in place about ad hominem attacks.
These are two examples of contributors who could add a lot more knowledge to the forum and yet they restrict their comments to just their products because of the climate here. I.e. relegated to being JUST customer service people. That's what you want, not what I want and not how it should be.
How it should be is that you allow all the PEOPLE who post here to be treated as people who deserve respect and not as targets to be torn down with every weapon you can invent.
Because "Ron Swanson" - inventing bullshit to attack with is exactly what you and other trolls do. You are not constrained by facts and not ever censored for the defamatory comments you make. If you were on some of the other forums myself and others have alluded to then you actually wouldn't be on them. Because your brand of "participation" is exactly what would not be allowed. And on those forums industry people and top makers are all present and willing to help anyone who needs it. I'd trade you for them in a heartbeat.