cue's path

[John Brumback]

You're right, it's not a swooping motion or wrist action, nor is it the tip.

I think it is just a particular setup/stroke that allows you "stab" through the CB at various angles. When I'm doing it I feel like I can generate all kinds of different CB paths and action with little effort.

Lou Figueroa

Yeah and that's one of the reasons I try to help and tell players that they have to and need to use the right bridge for the shot at hand.What do think about that? That's why I think that your cue angle or (cue's path) as you go through the shot has alot to do with the outcome of the shot.Thoughts? John B.

 

[John Brumback]

I think he's trying to get the explanation down for his video before somebody at 1P.org tells him he doesn't know what he's doing.

LOL to late I've already fimed it.Should be done in a few weeks.And I think I was right all along with my explanation too John B.

 

[Bob Jewett]

Ok and thanks.So maybe it's like when I say.."just a half of tip of english from the center of the call" will turn the oball the most for bank shots.So maybe it just takes so little of english (to do it) that the turn on my cball is just not very noticeable if at all. It does seem to me that I have to use a certain amount of speed to get the full effect.Thanks for the good info and help. John B.

Hi John,
If you want to test whether you are putting a little side spin on the cue ball on those shots, just use a stripe as your cue ball and put the stripe up. The stripe doesn't lie.

 

[John Brumback]

Hey John. I was recently showing someone an aiming method and how using english at speed did not change where I was aiming on the shot. He said show me and I did, we set up the cue ball on end rail and the object on the other with both lined up with one another, the cue ball was 6 inches away from the rail. I would put extreme right or left english on the cue ball and hit center of the object ball on the other side of the table with speed.

He noticed I was aiming center ball until my last stroke where I would hit the cue ball with whatever spin I wanted. I know there are players out there who do this playing a high level, I also feel that it might cause the cue ball to deflect a little less too. What are your feeling on this and do you do this too?

P.S. Take down the banks this year bud! :thumbup:

Hell Lenny,I'm not sure about all that.I might do it and not even know it.I've heard that alot..that it was an old hustler method about hiding where on the cball you are hitting but I never did think that was the real reason.Are you a hustler Lenny??LOL Thanks bud. John B.

 

[lfigueroa]

Yeah and that's one of the reasons I try to help and tell players that they have to and need to use the right bridge for the shot at hand.What do think about that? That's why I think that your cue angle or (cue's path) as you go through the shot has alot to do with the outcome of the shot.Thoughts? John B.

I agree and have taught this same philosophy to the occasional guy who has asked me for advice or instruction. Too many guys use the wrong set of bridges, often because they're just the bridges they've always used.

The most likely explanation for what we're talking about is the selection of the right bridge. However, it's a little tricky for two reasons. First, I don't think the bridge a player might normally select for a given shot makes this happen. IOW, you have to select the correct bridge to build this phenomena into the shot. (Once you start doing it, it does become somewhat intuitive.) Second, I also believe that to make this work the player's stroke must be extraordinarily straight and that is tougher to achieve than many players would suspect.

As I said, I don't have it nailed down, it comes to me sometimes and I suspect that that is because it is only on certain days that all the little motions I employ to get into shooting position generate a perfect stroke.

Lastly, yes again -- I agree that the angle or track the cue takes through the CB can radically change the outcome of the shot. I've done it myself. I just can't do it all the time.

Lou Figueroa
damnit

 

[Fast Lenny]

Hell Lenny,I'm not sure about all that.I might do it and not even know it.I've heard that alot..that it was an old hustler method about hiding where on the cball you are hitting but I never did think that was the real reason.Are you a hustler Lenny??LOL Thanks bud. John B.

Haha bud, I am working on it. :grin: