Curious why AZ members are too lazy to reply with a "no thanks" on trade deals?

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Curious why AZ members are too lazy to reply with a "no thanks" on trade deals?

I have been on az for a long time now, and it seems that once an az members loses interest in a trade deal (or is just not interested at all, and then just not reply back), then they will completely cut off all communication with the other az member that they were interested in trading with (not even a short PM that says, "sorry, but I am no longer interested in the trade, or sale").

This happens to me a lot.

Just when I think I am about to have a trade deal confirmed, the az member just stops writing me back (not even a simple PM to tell me that they are not interested, or no longer interested).

Why is it so hard to take 1 minute out of your day to reply to someone to say "no thanks", or "sorry, but I changed my mind and am no longer interested"?

Is it not common courtesy to reply to all of the PM's that you receive (especially if you have recently been communicating with that person about a deal, or if you have dealt with that person in the recent past)?

I think that not replying to a person is just plain rude, but I admit that I have done it a few times myself in the past (but not during communication on a trade deal that has gone back and forth several times over a few days time).

By the way, how long should an AZ member wait for a reply (when they think that they had a trade deal confirmed, but the other person just stops all communication, and does not reply back) before offering the trade to another person?

Does this just happen to me, or is this just the way most people are?

Thanks for your thoughts about this.
 
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Just have to say that I agree with you. Many people need a course in etiquette. It has amazed me many times how unprofessional people can be.

That being said, there are some great people on here, and hopefully they more then make up for some of the others.:)
 
Hi I am surprised , you have been here since July of 2010 , and just now realizing we have some rude people here . Some time when I receive a super low ball offer , I am not always as polite as I could be , and after I hit the send button , always feel , I did not have to reply that way . I hope thing do turn around . Good luck , have a nice day . Jim
 
Yeah, well, I guess the internet brings out the worst in all of us. We can show our true emotions through a PM (or in a reply to a forum thread) without being face to face with a person, and that allows us to say what ever we feel in our replies. Can't always do the same when dealing with a person face to face. Not many (I can't actually think of any at this time) have been really rude to me in the past, but it just really gets to me when me and another az member are just about to finalize a deal, and then I am always the last person to reply back (without ever seeing another reply from the other person again). This happens to me a lot on here. I just do not understand what is wrong with people. Is it so hard to take 1 minute out of your day to reply to a person with something (anything) for closure (to let them know that they are no longer interested, or they changed their mind)? Sorry, it just makes no sense to me why people are the way they are. How long is a fair amount of time (at the most) to receive a reply?

Jim Baxter said:
Hi I am surprised , you have been here since July of 2010 , and just now realizing we have some rude people here . Some time when I receive a super low ball offer , I am not always as polite as I could be , and after I hit the send button , always feel , I did not have to reply that way . I hope thing do turn around . Good luck , have a nice day . Jim
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Make it clear in your trade thread that if you do not have confirmation after a certain amount of days that the trade is null & void & you will offer the trade item(s) to someone else. It lets the people who read your post know what the deal is & keeps you from getting pissed off. :wink:
 
I got some replies that the ones I pm accidentally delete my pm. so from now on I will send them a reminder or two if I don't get their responses.
 
Courtesy has gone the way of a man hand shake, or word meaning something. World has gone to s***.' And can only be fix one person at a time.
 
I can't stand this and it happens time and time again here. Its not just with trades either. I can't count the number of times I've had someone PM me "I'll take it" to never be heard from again. Drives me crazy.

First person with the money is my policy. Now if someone with a good itrader rating communicates specifics with me I'll wait. I had someone commit to a deal at 2pm and they specifically stated that they would have the funds sent when they get home by 7pm. I have no problem with that, I'll give some leeway if they're communicating.

If I can't get a response and it shows that they've been online...then I'm moving on without remorse. I've had people lose deals while negotiating with me over a day or two because someone decided to pull the trigger and send the funds. Sorry, I can't wait around for every fickle tire kicker.
 
Sometimes the trade offer is so preposterous that if I reply, the accompanying rant would be so vulgar, it might affect my Sterling reputation. ;)

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classiccues said:
Sometimes the trade offer is so preposterous that if I reply, the accompanying rant would be so vulgar, it might affect my Sterling reputation. ;)

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it's those cases that I usually just answer with a "no, thanks for the offer" or something similar... occasionally if someone asks a question or pushes their price knowledge on me:rolleyes:, I respond a bit differently....
 
reasonable trade

most of the time i try to be nice, but when i get an offer to trade a used break cue that a seller is selling for 300, [ its maybe worth 200 ] for one of my custom 400 cues, i am not going to waste a lot of my time.
 
I buy and sell but never trade. Due to the large number of trade offers that I would receive after posting something for sale I started inserting the following statement in all of my for sale threads. "Please, no trade offers." Even with the statment I still received trade offers which I did not reposnd to.

IMO with the current market conditions trading is alot more common place. I stopped listing items for sale on here becuase I can sell items quicker on Ebay and for more money.
 
some people know how to trade, do business, and communicate and some don't. too bad, but that's life.
 
I will state in my ad very clearly specifics. For example, I will state that I looking for a 18oz bluegrass cue. I will get PMs from people trying to sell me a 19.5 oz gilbert. I am not going to waste my time because people don't know how to read.
If I say no trades then don't offer me a trade. It's that simple.
 
classiccues said:
Sometimes the trade offer is so preposterous that if I reply, the accompanying rant would be so vulgar, it might affect my Sterling reputation. ;)

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Obviously you're exaggerating and I don't mean to single you out in particularly but I never understood why people respond with actual anger at what they perceive as a lowball offer or lopsided trade.

Sometimes people just don't see things equally. Perhaps their looking for a starting point or just trying to get a feel where someone stands.

That's the problem with some of these listings not having a price. A cue could have a realistic market value of say 1600 and hit them up at 1500 thinking you're in the ballpark but their ego has propped this cue up to 2100 in their eyes

...then they take it personal and proceed to burn a bridge.

There's just nothing to be gained by acting that way.

Again, not at all a reflection of you personally...just that your post prompted a point I thought worth making.

skins said:
it's those cases that I usually just answer with a "no, thanks for the offer" or something similar... occasionally if someone asks a question or pushes their price knowledge on me:rolleyes:, I respond a bit differently....
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Exactly. If it so out of line I just respond with a sorry but that just won't work for me. If its ball parky I'll at least give them the benefit of the doubt and tell them where I stand and why.

I know its bad because I've had people actually thank me for not blowing up at their offer. I knew there was no ill will. Just an offer.

I've sold cues at 300 that I've listed at 700-800 because they just didn't bring the market I thought they could.

The last thing we want is people losing out on deals because the buyer is scared to send an offer that might offend someone and elicit vulgar backlash.

A lowball or starting point offer is how you begin to negotiate a sale in almost every facet of negotiable retail but for some reason this is asking for trouble here.
 
No, after 20 years of people offering me glue bound horses for my stallions I am pretty serious. A lowball offer can be made by trade as well as cash. I know sometimes better to be cool, but we all have our days. :p

Jv

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classiccues said:
No, after 20 years of people offering me glue bound horses for my stallions I am pretty serious. A lowball offer can be made by trade as well as cash. I know sometimes better to be cool, but we all have our days. :p

Jv

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The facebook marketplace is way worse than AzB. I posted a $200 break cue that I'd like to trade. I was messaged several times with $50 J&J Jump/Breaks they would like to trade, one guy even said I should add money because he paid over $150 for his... LOL
 
DAVE_M said:
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The facebook marketplace is way worse than AzB. I posted a $200 break cue that I'd like to trade. I was messaged several times with $50 J&J Jump/Breaks they would like to trade, one guy even said I should add money because he paid over $150 for his... LOL
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There is one guy there, that deals here, I am sure he is one of those low ballin flippers... in fact he is on the dealer "secret" list.. lol

Anyways I will say, I do tell everyone you are better off selling than trading with a dealer. This is a fact. There are rarely cues I am into, that I am into so good, I can absorb someone else's bad choice. Unless I have an immediate out for a trade cue, I am not trading at value. People expect lateral trades and with most dealers, that won't happen.

JV
 
I try to communicate, you never know, but rarely is it easy to tell someone that you don't want their cue, or three cues, any of them.
At some point you have to break the news that you don't want any of their cues, so you can do it immediately, or wait a while, but it could go on for weeks
The cue I'm trading away is typically a cue I made an effort to get in the first place, and I don't want to trade for something I don't want, even if it's a good deal.
Trading can be a lot of fun face to face.
I've had 5-hour marathon trades, and even then you always wonder if you got porked.
 
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