Custom Runde Era Schon R-3 & It's George Case

Nine Ball

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Selling one custom Runde era Schon cue. This is an R-3 without the stitched ring work. It was purchased in the 80's and was with the original owner until I received it. I confirmed this with the owner of the pool room here that originally sold this cue to the person I got it from. It's still in original condition. Original finish, Original ferrule, and the original wrap. The ferrule looks to be Ivory to me but it could just be micarta. The cue only has two very tiny dings in it. One is in the butt sleeve and the other is in the forearm. It's been very well kept. The collar on the shaft shows a little fading in color which isn't a big deal. The shaft is 13mm. When put together the cue has a tiny roll that's not visible unless you get down and look at it from the side while rolling it. Looks perfectly straight when standing over top rolling it. Definitely has no affect on shooting and to a collector no affect on value. Feel free to ask any questions you may have. Thanks for viewing and have a great day.

Runde Era Schon Cue R-3

Here's the link to it on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-R-3-Rund...0QQihZ020QQcategoryZ95100QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The LOW RESERVE was met but bid was retracted 2 days later by a dead beat.

(Cue has now been sold for the steal of a deal at $365 shipped)

Thanks,
Josh Hillard
 

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Wrap

Wrap is in excellent condition but I think the picture makes it look a little funny.
 

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Please correct me if I am wrong, but were not all the R series cut points and not CNC??
 
Sev said:
Please correct me if I am wrong, but were not all the R series cut points and not CNC??

I have a R2 (1987 when I purchased it) with rounded points but I have a stitch ring and not the solid metal. I Thought Runde era only had the stitch rings.

Looking at a 1986 brochure the R3 shows Stitch rings. Don't know when the Runde era ended.

Here is a link to Schon history.

http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonFirstCataloScan.html

Maybe the catalog I have was older and my cue was from old stock.
 
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Nine Ball said:
Whole Cue Picture

Can't tell from the pics---are the points inlaid or spliced? That part of the forearm was cut off in the close up.

The ferrule appears to be micarta.

Thanks in advance.:)
 
??????????

This cue is not from 1980's in my opinion more like 1990's 0r later. Runde's can have sharp points or not. This looks like it would make a fine player an I personally like micarta ferrules. Good luck with sale
Pinocchio
 
Jensen209 said:
Hi, is the diameter of the ferrule full 13mm? And the total weight of this cue? Thanks!


13mm and probably about 20ozs with a weight bolt to adjust the weight. I have a scale I recently bought and can weigh it later tonight.
 
Sev said:
Please correct me if I am wrong, but were not all the R series cut points and not CNC??



Yes, All the R series I have seen are. I have no idea what the model as it's so old I could not find it. I thought it may be an R-3 even though the point are different. That's why I said I believe it's an R-3.
 
TheBook said:
I have a R2 (1987 when I purchased it) with rounded points but I have a stitch ring and not the solid metal. I Thought Runde era only had the stitch rings.

Looking at a 1986 brochure the R3 shows Stitch rings. Don't know when the Runde era ended.

Here is a link to Schon history.

http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonFirstCataloScan.html

Maybe the catalog I have was older and my cue was from old stock.


There you have it. You say your R-2 has rounded points but stitched rings. One says all R series have sharp points. I think this is an R series with rounded points and silver ring work. If not someone please show me the model.
 
Pinocchio said:
This cue is not from 1980's in my opinion more like 1990's 0r later. Runde's can have sharp points or not. This looks like it would make a fine player an I personally like micarta ferrules. Good luck with sale
Pinocchio


Sorry Sir but you can bet your last dollar this cue is from the 80's. I have already spoken with the room owner who originally sold this cue new and it was confirmed he sold it in the 80's. Don't go broke betting.. :D
 
This cue does have pantographed points, but they still called it an R-3 model and is probably still Runde era. They started using silver rings in about 1987. The earliest Schons with pantograph points that I've seen date to about 1988 or 1989. It is a logical conclusion that the cue was made in the early 1990's but it's also possible late 1980's. Runde left in 1992 so he pioneered their change over to inlaid points. I've seen the factory stickers where they referred to cues as "R" models even though they had inlaid points.

Chris
 
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TATE said:
This cue does lave inlaid points, but they still called it an R-3 model and is probably still Runde era. They started using silver rings in about 1987. The earliest Schons with inlaid (pantograph) points that I've seen date to about 1988 or 1989. It is a logical conclusion that the cue was made in the early 1990's but it's also possible late 1980's. Runde left in 1992 so he pioneered their change over to inlaid points. I've seen the factory stickers where they referred to cues as "R" models even though they had inlaid points.

Chris


This confirms it. This is an R model. The room owner said he sold this cue in 88. :D Also, What year did they start putting Schon on the shaft collar? This doesn't have that.
 
TheBook said:
I have a R2 (1987 when I purchased it) with rounded points but I have a stitch ring and not the solid metal. I Thought Runde era only had the stitch rings.

Looking at a 1986 brochure the R3 shows Stitch rings. Don't know when the Runde era ended.

Here is a link to Schon history.

http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonFirstCataloScan.html

Maybe the catalog I have was older and my cue was from old stock.


Thank you for the link. You also answered your own question when you thought all R models had stitched rings. Read on the page that says stitched was standard until 85 but you could still custom order the silver rings and in 85 they started using the silver rings but stitched was still optional.
 
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I recently traded emails with Evan Clark at Schon after buying "Tate's" R-3. I asked him when they started doing rounded pointed cues & his reply was that they have been doing both style points almost from the beginning rounded ones where made using a pantagraph until they switched to CNC.

I also have a rounded pointed Schon that was from somewhere beteen 85-87: the points where not as round as the current or 90's points that the CNC machine created. This appears to be the pantagraph version of the R-3, not the sharp points of the R-3 that I received from Tate (thanks, again, Chris). Both cues have the silver rings, not the dashed rings. The one I have is from 1987 according to Evan.

Dave
 
It's George Case

Off to eBay
 

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