Cyclop ball review (compared with Brunswick Centennials)

I found the cue ball was heavier then the rest of the set, when weighed.
 
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I prefer Aramith over all of them.
The two you tested just don't compare in quality of play.....just my opinion of course.
Yes, I'd much rather clean the chalk off the Aramith ever so often vs. using something made of material that's so slippery that nothing sticks to it and thus affects how they interact with each other.
 
I probably played around 100 games with the cyclops balls this past week. I pretty much agree with the OP. The cb rarely had chalk marks on it.had one really weird skid but other than that enjoyed them. I'll be purchasing a set at some point.
 
Just a quick review of the Cyclop TV-colors set I received as part of the AZB/Diamond Billiards group-buy deal recently:

I've played around 300 games of 9-ball (mostly) with them, on my Diamond 9-foot Pro with newish Simonis 860HR (3 weeks of play on it, the rails have lost most of their new slippery condition).

Since I got a set of new Brunswick Centennials with the table, this was an ideal test bed to compare the two ball sets. I had played about the same amount with the Centennials as I have now with the Cyclops.

COLOR - Personal preference, but I like the "skittles" colors – somehow they look more "modern" – and my goal in getting the set was to become accustomed to the same balls I'll be playing with in Vegas this July. My only suggestion would be for more contrast between the 6 and 7 balls (and 14 and 15), as the light green and light blue are so close I'm looking for the number and double-checking which is which almost every game.

CUE BALL - I like the semi-translucent cue ball, and haven't felt like thin cut shots are tougher with it like some report. The big red logo is a little distracting at times, however. I don't perceive any difference in drawing or force-following as compared to the Centennial CB (blue circle) or Aramith measles CB.

PERFORMANCE - I've seen no difference in the number of skids/bad contact. The skids I've been getting on my table are typically with a soft follow shot at little to no angle, and I've had maybe one per 100 shots or so with both the Centennials and the Cyclops. I was also curious whether the Cyclop balls had the same "bounciness" (coefficient of restitution), so I set up a ramp on the table and rolled the CB down into an OB on the spot then marked how far it traveled. In both sets, the OB rolled the same distance on average (about 6 feet +/- 1" or so) after impact (there was more variability between balls of the same set than between the averages of the two sets). I've seen no difference in the amount of english I can apply or english effects off the rail, nor any difference in the amount of collision-induced throw or cut aimpoint.

BOX - Another poster said his Cyclop box was damaged and low-quality. Mine was perfect, and appeared to be stronger and had a better liner than my new Centennial box.

STAYING CLEAN - Here I found the biggest difference between the two sets, and the reason why the Cyclop balls are still on my table while the Centennials are warming their box: the Cyclops are staying significantly cleaner, with both fewer black marks from the Diamond leather pockets, and much less chalk stuck to their surface. Every time I rack, I marvel at how clean the object balls are compared to the Centennials in the same circumstance. It's especially noticeable on the CB, which keeps itself fairly clean just from rolling on the cloth. I usually wipe off one or two chalk smudges before breaking, but they come off easily, they're "lighter" than on the Aramith CB, and I don't usually notice as many smudges getting picked up during the game. (I'm using Blue Diamond chalk for reference.)

Hope this helps someone, and I'll update if there are changes in the future, especially after polishing the balls.

Have you weighed both sets (each ball) to test for difference in weights of one ball to the next? I know my Cyclop balls were all much closer to the same weight than the Arimath balls I used to play with.
 
I Don't Get It.....

The logo on mine is a bit visually distracting, but it is not raised and cannot be felt.


The survey results are posted on the Forum.......Centennial vs. Cyclop....and by the way, Brunswick Centennial blew away Cyclop in the final voting results.

Frankly, I wonder why anyone would want to play with any cue ball, or pool ball set for that matter, if they didn't love the design. Heck no, get rid of the pool
balls and replace it with what you do like, would obviously enjoy more and also play better, i.e., no distractions.

Play with Aramith Tournament, or Cyclops or Centennials or Raschig or whatever strikes your fancy.....just never settle rather than get what you really want and
the very same applies to cue-makers and pool cues......get what you want.

Matt B.
 
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The survey results are posted on the Forum.......Centennial vs. Cyclop....and by the way, Brunswick Centennial blew away Cyclop in the final voting results.

Frankly, I wonder why anyone would want to play with any cue ball, or pool ball set for that matter, if they didn't love the design. Heck no, get rid of the pool
balls and replace it with what you do like, would obviously enjoy more and also play better, i.e., no distractions.

Play with Aramith Tournament, or Cyclops or Centennials or Raschig or whatever strikes your fancy.....just never settle rather than get what you really want and
the very same applies to cue-makers and pool cues......get what you want.

Matt B.

Surveys can be misleading. Many, if not most, people resist change. Therefore, unless the Cyclops was head and shoulders ahead of Aramith or Brunswick, they're likely to come in with a lower rating. Also, I wonder how many responding to the survey had played with the Cyclops balls extensively, in order to really provide an objective opinion, or simply didn't like the color of the CB or the colored balls.

I don't see a significant difference in any of them. If they're all the same size, weigh about the same and are clean, they're fine by me. In most instances, the pocket is 2 x bigger than the ball so the tolerances don't need to be in the 0.01 range for it to work. I'd also say the tolerance are 100 x better than the stroke of the player in most cases as well.
 
I just weighed both of my Cyclop ball sets (standard colors and TV/skittle colors) using a calibrated digital scale ---- and the individual balls from each set are "almost perfect" weighing in at an average 169 grams each with a tolerance of 0.236% or 0.4 grams worst case scenario between the 15 object balls. I did numerous roll tests with each ball and each cue ball (different logo on each) as well with zero roll-offs or issues of any kind. Perfect.

Here's an easy test for anyone to compare ball sets - and I have done this myself - take the beautiful Brunswick Centennials and the gleaming Aramith Tournaments and for fun, the reliable Aramith Crown Standards and play a few racks with each set. Now look closely at the surface and finish of each ball side by side under your table lights - or something brighter like a fluorescent. Real close.

The Centennials will need a 5-10 minute session in the Diamond ball polisher to get them back to where the Cyclop balls STILL are - perfect with no smudges or scuff marks of any kind. The Crown Standards and Tournaments are a close second and third respectively, but they slowly will show their collision marks (scuff marks if you will) after a full day of play and require maybe 5 minutes of machine polishing to make showroom-new again. The Cyclop balls only need cleaning or polishing if you are perhaps OCD and just like the rattle and hum of the ball polisher :-)

This has been my experience and opinion using all of the above sets over the last year of play regarding wear and cleaning and performance only. From a quality control and tolerance level, both of the Cyclop ball sets I have are far and away better than any of the other sets in my collection.

There is no question as to the beauty and aesthetics of both the Centennials and the Tournaments, which deserve a place in everyone's collection. IMHO. They just require more TLC :-)



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Just a quick review of the Cyclop TV-colors set I received as part of the AZB/Diamond Billiards group-buy deal recently:

I've played around 300 games of 9-ball (mostly) with them, on my Diamond 9-foot Pro with newish Simonis 860HR (3 weeks of play on it, the rails have lost most of their new slippery condition).

Since I got a set of new Brunswick Centennials with the table, this was an ideal test bed to compare the two ball sets. I had played about the same amount with the Centennials as I have now with the Cyclops.

COLOR - Personal preference, but I like the "skittles" colors – somehow they look more "modern" – and my goal in getting the set was to become accustomed to the same balls I'll be playing with in Vegas this July. My only suggestion would be for more contrast between the 6 and 7 balls (and 14 and 15), as the light green and light blue are so close I'm looking for the number and double-checking which is which almost every game.

CUE BALL - I like the semi-translucent cue ball, and haven't felt like thin cut shots are tougher with it like some report. The big red logo is a little distracting at times, however. I don't perceive any difference in drawing or force-following as compared to the Centennial CB (blue circle) or Aramith measles CB.

PERFORMANCE - I've seen no difference in the number of skids/bad contact. The skids I've been getting on my table are typically with a soft follow shot at little to no angle, and I've had maybe one per 100 shots or so with both the Centennials and the Cyclops. I was also curious whether the Cyclop balls had the same "bounciness" (coefficient of restitution), so I set up a ramp on the table and rolled the CB down into an OB on the spot then marked how far it traveled. In both sets, the OB rolled the same distance on average (about 6 feet +/- 1" or so) after impact (there was more variability between balls of the same set than between the averages of the two sets). I've seen no difference in the amount of english I can apply or english effects off the rail, nor any difference in the amount of collision-induced throw or cut aimpoint.

BOX - Another poster said his Cyclop box was damaged and low-quality. Mine was perfect, and appeared to be stronger and had a better liner than my new Centennial box.

STAYING CLEAN - Here I found the biggest difference between the two sets, and the reason why the Cyclop balls are still on my table while the Centennials are warming their box: the Cyclops are staying significantly cleaner, with both fewer black marks from the Diamond leather pockets, and much less chalk stuck to their surface. Every time I rack, I marvel at how clean the object balls are compared to the Centennials in the same circumstance. It's especially noticeable on the CB, which keeps itself fairly clean just from rolling on the cloth. I usually wipe off one or two chalk smudges before breaking, but they come off easily, they're "lighter" than on the Aramith CB, and I don't usually notice as many smudges getting picked up during the game. (I'm using Blue Diamond chalk for reference.)

Hope this helps someone, and I'll update if there are changes in the future, especially after polishing the balls.
Do you use a polisher?

When these first came out, they claimed that they never need to be polished. But, I've seen sets with a traveling crew that sets up Diamond tables. And they all looked terrible. They were marked and discolored. Now these tables would get alot more play than even busy pool halls.

Anyway, I wonder if they were polishing the balls and causing the discoloration. Especially the skittle colors. Or maybe not polishing.
 
I just got a set of the Cyclop TV balls, love them, love the shine, love the way they play. Nice change of pace on the colors, they remind me of colored Easter eggs. Before I was using centennials, which no doubt are GREAT, also have Aramith Premier and a few other sets. I actually have weighed my balls, and the Cyclop are more consistent. It was on a goodigital food scale, but it only gives you ounces and grams but doesn't break it into 10ths or 100ths Regarding the aforementioned sets (Do NOTE: the Cyclops are new and the Centennials have a lot of games on them and the weight
 
I just got a set of the Cyclop TV balls, love them, love the shine, love the way they play. Nice change of pace on the colors, they remind me of colored Easter eggs. Before I was using centennials, which no doubt are GREAT, also have Aramith Premier and a few other sets. I actually have weighed my balls, and the Cyclop are more consistent. It was on a goodigital food scale, but it only gives you ounces and grams but doesn't break it into 10ths or 100ths Regarding the aforementioned sets (Do NOTE: the Cyclops are new and the Centennials have a lot of games on them and the weight

and the weight...

??

did you drive off a cliff?
 
Once I got past the first few lines, I just have to say YOU PUT 860HR on a DIAMOND? That's like using a shotgun to deliver Skittles to your mouth, a bit too much speed.

?? What is he supposed to use? That is pretty much the tournament standard today.

KMRUNOUT
 
I know they are supposed to have way more phenolic content than Aramiths... going to test them for elasticity in the next week or so... Just now getting my test equipment lines out and tested for consistency before i start the tip and ball tests.....


Will post results asap...

Chris

I am interested in the results of your testing. because without any doubt in my mind, I know for sure there is a MARKED difference between any other cue ball used in traditional tournaments, the Cyclop CB is tacky, sticky, rubbery, like a gum ball. Not really interested in what anyone else has to say with their own experience... good on ya if you notice no difference, I know what I know and you know what you know.

I'm just interested to see how much of a difference under testing there may be in elasticity (since the cyclop ball seems to be made of rubber bands) just to prove my feelings on the matter and get some kind of validation.

Can a brother get some validation over here?

Lesh
 
Cyclop is making a different cueball now, not translucent anymore. Or at least they had a different one at the Derby this year.
Mark
 
and the weight...

??

did you drive off a cliff?

I recentlybought a brand new set of TV balls.

The CB has the red dot. It is not sticky and does not feel like rubber.

I weighed all the balls using a OXO kitchen scale. They are all 169g.

The method that I used was very scientific, I weighed all the balls and then divided by 16 to eliminate any errors. 😱:smash::bash::banghead:

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