Daily Ghost Results.. Races to 9 + video

Put up all the games. I like seeing how people try to run out impossible racks when playing the ghost. Sometimes the balls don't break up well and everyone's got a different method of dealing with it, so post it all if you can.

PlynSets said:
Well I've tried every way I know how to edit this video up, but the bottom line is my laptop just doesn't have the nuts to render a video that long, so I have to put it up rack by rack. :( i wanted to put it up uninterrupted so people couldn't question the integrity of the set.. Guess your gonna have to take my word for it.

Should I put up all 14 games? (5 : 9) or just the 5 that I won is the question? Alot of those games are literally missing the 2 ball for whatever reason etc..

DJ
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I'll do alot better on both the video and the editing of the next sets.. I had a buddy over that night and we spent most of the night drinking and BBQ'ing. I played one warm up game and started the set, I was 2 sheets to the wind when I started, and 3 sheets by the time I finished.

1st Rack of the set

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DJ
 
I'll do alot better on both the video and the editing of the next sets.. I had a buddy over that night and we spent most of the night drinking and BBQ'ing. I played one warm up game and started the set, I was 2 sheets to the wind when I started, and 3 sheets by the time I finished.

1st Rack of the set

1st Rack

DJ
 
I screwed up editing this video as far as the score count goes. It's alot harder to keep track of which games are which when your editing video then you'd think. :D In any event I accidentally gave the ghost an extra game. The video says games 2 - 5, but it's actually 2 - 4, As well the score at the end shouldn't be 2 : 3 (ghost winning) but rather 2:2. I didn't save the edit files or I wouldn't just changed it, for me to change it now I'd have to remake the whole video which I'm feeling entirely to lazy to do right now.

Racks 2 - 4 error video

DJ
 
Some nice shooting there DJ!

I see the ghost got a bit of help from your missus in that 2nd game...lol

Colin
 
Salamander said:
4" corners....very impressive. Are they 4 at the front of the pocket, or at the back, just out of curiousity?

I imagine that constitutes triple shim? At any rate, bravo on the performance.

Regards,

Doug
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Doug,

The pockets are 4" at the points. There are no shims on my table - the rails were re-done and the rubber was cut accordingly.

I posted a pic on the corners in this thread:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42970

I have since gotten a little more stroke back and posted some videos there too.

Chris
 
Cameron Smith said:
Black Crown

8 foot, un-leveled table.

9-5 (in my favour)
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Damn!! Which rules were you playing by if you don't mind me asking? As well as how big were the pockets?

I'm quite impressed to see this many people handily beating the ghost! (Little taken back by it honestly)

DJ
 
PlynSets said:
Damn!! Which rules were you playing by if you don't mind me asking? As well as how big were the pockets?

I'm quite impressed to see this many people handily beating the ghost! (Little taken back by it honestly)

DJ
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I was playing by the same rules you had posted. The pockets I forgot to mention were around 4.75.

Don't be too discouraged though, I didn't post the two other sets I lost. I think there are others who don't post simply because they lost to the ghost, therefore it wasn't worth mentioning.

As for the ones I lost they went 2-9, 4-9. After that I got used to the unlevel table.

I was pretty much smacking the break as hard as I could getting plenty of balls down off the break. By the mid point I was getting the 9 to drift towards the left corner pocket, so there were plenty of combos.
 
I haven't tried it for a year or so. My only rotation drills are 3 and 4 balls; using Jerry Briesath's rules of every shot must be totally easy, or ghost wins; object is to win at least 15 out of 20 - it's harder than it sounds if you are honest with yourself. If you miss or get a tough shot, you reset the balls and do it until you are successful, but it counts as a loss.

Last night using 9 balls (and ignoring Jerry's rules); WBM = 11, ghost = 9. Table is a 9 ft. GCIV, double shimmed. Around here it is ALWAYS ball in hand after break, scratches don't matter on the break (though I didn't scratch this session).
 
PlynSets said:
Damn!! Which rules were you playing by if you don't mind me asking? As well as how big were the pockets?

I'm quite impressed to see this many people handily beating the ghost! (Little taken back by it honestly)

DJ
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DJ,

I downloaded the Codec for MPEG 4 and some compression software. This is really the way to go. I'm really excited because the files sizes are nice and small, but the quality is great. Because the files are small, maybe 10 megabytes per rack, they are easy to work with and the conversion is very fast. My other ones I posted on You Tube were MPEG 1 or 2, so the files were larger and the quality poor.

Anyway, the technology is catching up and soon it will be easier to post quality, fast loading video's. It should be fun.

Chris
 
Williebetmore said:
I haven't tried it for a year or so. My only rotation drills are 3 and 4 balls; using Jerry Briesath's rules of every shot must be totally easy, or ghost wins; object is to win at least 15 out of 20 - it's harder than it sounds if you are honest with yourself. If you miss or get a tough shot, you reset the balls and do it until you are successful, but it counts as a loss.

Last night using 9 balls (and ignoring Jerry's rules); WBM = 11, ghost = 9. Table is a 9 ft. GCIV, double shimmed. Around here it is ALWAYS ball in hand after break, scratches don't matter on the break (though I didn't scratch this session).
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Is there any kind of guide to what constitutes an easy shot? I'm just curious becuase what is easy for me may be impossible for perhaps a C or D player.
 
Chris, where did those video clips go? I watched a couple a few days ago, damn straight shooters I hate them. :D Well if you can't out shoot them you out maneuver them. LOL

Good shooting and I liked the commentary. It's interesting to hear what goes on in another pool player's mind. Not much happens in mine it just has a rattle once in a while. :D

This last weekend Scott Lee was out for a visit and I told him about your video. I said that Chris is a straight shooter. I mentioned I won't beat the ghost right now but I will if I start playing again. There is a nice tight one pocket table, maybe next weekend I'll see how me and the ghost compares. That is if I find a stroke between now and then. LOL Actually, if I had a new pair of eyes it would make things a lot easier.

Rod
 
Cameron Smith said:
Is there any kind of guide to what constitutes an easy shot? I'm just curious becuase what is easy for me may be impossible for perhaps a C or D player.
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#6,
Aye, there's the rub; the determination is left up to the player; I don't think we'll be seeing this game in the Olympics anytime soon.

Any shot that I would feel comfortable shooting at 99-99 in a straight pool game to 100 for cash I allow. I allow medium long shots as long as there is not a great amount of angle. Almost all shots with the cue ball within a foot or two of the object ball I consider easy, unless angle is extreme. Only very simple combo's; NO banks.

The definition of easy DEFINITELY becomes looser as the skill of the player improves.
 
Williebetmore said:
Any shot that I would feel comfortable shooting at 99-99 in a straight pool game to 100 for cash I allow. QUOTE]

That's a good measurement I think. I'll try this when I get back to the pool room on friday. I think I need to improve my cue ball control a bit more to move to the next level.
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Cameron Smith said:
Williebetmore said:
Any shot that I would feel comfortable shooting at 99-99 in a straight pool game to 100 for cash I allow. QUOTE]

That's a good measurement I think. I'll try this when I get back to the pool room on friday. I think I need to improve my cue ball control a bit more to move to the next level.
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Squarerootof#36,
It's hard to believe how much easier the game is with the cue ball close to the object ball. A Hall of Famer told me I need to work on getting closer to the object ball - a good demonstration being to play a rack, and after each shot you are allowed to move the cue ball 6 inches closer to your next object ball. Even the 6 inches seems to make a huge difference (and will usually serve to convince the skeptical that it is an important goal to strive for).

Perhaps SJM will weigh in on the virtues (and in the old days, the necessity) of getting close to the break shot in 14.1. I wish I had the knack; as far as I know, Jerry's drill is the only one I've heard of that is designed to help you learn to get closer/easier shots. It takes a LOT of fortitude and time to actually do the exercises properly; but the rewards are great.
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Williebetmore said:
Cameron Smith said:
Squarerootof#36,
It's hard to believe how much easier the game is with the cue ball close to the object ball. A Hall of Famer told me I need to work on getting closer to the object ball - a good demonstration being to play a rack, and after each shot you are allowed to move the cue ball 6 inches closer to your next object ball. Even the 6 inches seems to make a huge difference (and will usually serve to convince the skeptical that it is an important goal to strive for).

Perhaps SJM will weigh in on the virtues (and in the old days, the necessity) of getting close to the break shot in 14.1. I wish I had the knack; as far as I know, Jerry's drill is the only one I've heard of that is designed to help you learn to get closer/easier shots. It takes a LOT of fortitude and time to actually do the exercises properly; but the rewards are great.
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I'm going to start trying that in practice.. Seems so simple, but I can only imagine the rewards that would come from that. :)

DJ
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I haven't had a chance to edit up the rest of the tape yet.. Honestly it's pretty less then impressive, I do a couple combo's and run one more rack.

I had to take about a 7 day break from pool, just becuase I had so much stuff going on I didn't have time to play (even at home :( ) Things have free'd up quite a bit now so it's game on again.. I'm thinking I'll just film some more sets with the ghost and start over as this one is pretty old news by now.

DJ
 
Rod said:
Chris, where did those video clips go? I watched a couple a few days ago, damn straight shooters I hate them. :D Well if you can't out shoot them you out maneuver them. LOL

Good shooting and I liked the commentary. It's interesting to hear what goes on in another pool player's mind. Not much happens in mine it just has a rattle once in a while. :D

This last weekend Scott Lee was out for a visit and I told him about your video. I said that Chris is a straight shooter. I mentioned I won't beat the ghost right now but I will if I start playing again. There is a nice tight one pocket table, maybe next weekend I'll see how me and the ghost compares. That is if I find a stroke between now and then. LOL Actually, if I had a new pair of eyes it would make things a lot easier.

Rod
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Hi Rod,

Thanks man. Some day I do want to get together with you and shoot a little straight pool. My game has gone over to 9 ball so I don't play straight pool like I used to, but I think I am going to start practicing straight pool again.

Here's the link to the other thread. I had never really seen myself playing before and it was a lot of fun doing the commentary. The video clips are low quality but I have better software now, so in a while I might just put up some better ones.

I had Scott help me when I was getting back into the game, so I was pretty rusty at the time. His drills and input helped a lot. He didn't really change anything in my game, just my routine, and that helped a lot.

Here you go:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42970

Chris
 
Williebetmore said:
Squarerootof#36,
It's hard to believe how much easier the game is with the cue ball close to the object ball. A Hall of Famer told me I need to work on getting closer to the object ball - a good demonstration being to play a rack, and after each shot you are allowed to move the cue ball 6 inches closer to your next object ball. Even the 6 inches seems to make a huge difference (and will usually serve to convince the skeptical that it is an important goal to strive for).

Perhaps SJM will weigh in on the virtues (and in the old days, the necessity) of getting close to the break shot in 14.1. I wish I had the knack; as far as I know, Jerry's drill is the only one I've heard of that is designed to help you learn to get closer/easier shots. It takes a LOT of fortitude and time to actually do the exercises properly; but the rewards are great.
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It's definitely worth working on. Not only does playing close position make the pot easier but you have more options as far as positional play. Using side becomes far less daunting.

I'm trying to find a balance between playing a simple game, primarily center ball, but also having a finesse game as well. I am relatively convince that is what I need to do. If you can get good and close on one of the balls it shouldn't be hard to do so with the rest of them. With exceptions of course.
 
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