It seems that Basavich has no fans in Taiwan. There is alot of buzz going on about how slow he is playing. Even Alex Pagulayan said that he thought Danny was feeling the pressure, but 3 minutes is just too long for a shot. People think if and when he makes it to the knockout stages he will be warned, as the referees were visibly annoyed along with the crowd about how slow he plays. What do you guys think, should they put a time clock on him? I personally don't like slow play, but I think that Archer plays almost just as slow and he still has alot of fans. Nevertheless I am rooting for Danny Bassavich and I really hope he goes far in this tournament, he is such a likeable person and a great player at that. I just wish he would speed it up a bit.
Danny Basavich Making People Angry
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LastTwo said:
JAM mentioned this in the thread:
http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=14762
During the game with Hsia, the commentators mentioned something about two major tournaments in the US (the named tour escapes me), Dan was put on the clock due to complains from players and fans on his very slow pace and he played mid-fast to fast phase after that.
He might be funny and big in the US of A, but I would say he was more a failure in getting fans in Asia as many were just bored to death with this antics of his. I for 1 has changed my opinion during/after the game. He is not that delicious to me anymore.
My apologies for the comment above, no offense meant. Just my observation and personal opinion.
markcobb1972
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The Kid
maybe they should beat him faster...oh wait the people crying are the loosers...
maybe they should beat him faster...oh wait the people crying are the loosers...
Or maybe it's because he didn't even make into the knockout rounds last time that he needs to resort to such slow pace to annoy his opponents? Seriously, this has nothing to do with who wins or who loses. Slow play bores everybody. There are 2 big losers with his slow play. One is the fans, especially the ones that paid money to go watch him play live, and have him wasting their time with the slow play. Second is the advertisers that paid good money to advertise and sponsor the event, and have his mind-numbing play driving the audience away.
hopefully the posters here can watch the game... it's really boring to death you almost want to hit your monitor or TV... takes him 2 minutes to look and the rack before he makes a break.. a simple shot even a beginner will find no problem making will take Danny more than 2-minutes to prepare.. then he line up to cue to shoot, stop and do the same routine for about 3-times before he shoot... you've got to be an angel to endure watching him play (at least his game vs Hsia...)... sorry for the strong words..
Since there is no time limit on shots in the WPC (and I believe it should stay that way) it is a hard call but I agree with the sentiment that it should NOT take 2 minutes per a shot to sink ducks. It is all good taking a couple minutes to line up a tough kick or figure out a play on a particularily tough layout after the break but if you get ball in hand with 3 open balls remaining and it takes 6 minutes to make those 3 balls you need to speed it up. Archer is slow, he is sure as hell not that slow though.
I dont' know Danny personally, and I have not heard anything bad about him. So this isn't an attack on his character.
I watched him play on tv a couple weeks ago. Maybe he was under a shot clock, but he was playing at a normal and reasonable pace. If nobody said anything about the match here, I would've never thought of him as a slow player. So, since he can play at a normal pace, then his extreme slow play must have been deliberate. I think that is quite inexcuseable. He's not playing in one of his hustles or money matches where other people's enjoyment and time is of no concern to him. Maybe somebody needs to remind him, but he was playing in an international tournament and on the TV table. He needs to know that he shouldn't be pulling such a blatant sharking technique. Maybe somebody may alledge that Earl has also tried to shark, but at least Earl put up a good show on the table.
Like I mentioned above, the big losers are the fans and the organizers/sponsors. Hsia is not going to be affected too much by this. He's a good enough player that he'll probably still make it to the knock-out rounds anyways. Plus, he's not the ones criticizing Bassavich. It was the commentators and the fans that are making the criticisms. If even the commentators are making comments about Danny's slow play, then it must have been extremely slow.
I watched him play on tv a couple weeks ago. Maybe he was under a shot clock, but he was playing at a normal and reasonable pace. If nobody said anything about the match here, I would've never thought of him as a slow player. So, since he can play at a normal pace, then his extreme slow play must have been deliberate. I think that is quite inexcuseable. He's not playing in one of his hustles or money matches where other people's enjoyment and time is of no concern to him. Maybe somebody needs to remind him, but he was playing in an international tournament and on the TV table. He needs to know that he shouldn't be pulling such a blatant sharking technique. Maybe somebody may alledge that Earl has also tried to shark, but at least Earl put up a good show on the table.
Like I mentioned above, the big losers are the fans and the organizers/sponsors. Hsia is not going to be affected too much by this. He's a good enough player that he'll probably still make it to the knock-out rounds anyways. Plus, he's not the ones criticizing Bassavich. It was the commentators and the fans that are making the criticisms. If even the commentators are making comments about Danny's slow play, then it must have been extremely slow.
I've seen the match on TV and indeed it\s quite slow... what puzzles me is Danny's routine, he gets down on a shot.. (I know and noticed he hasn't chalked up yet, which means he'll get up again soon to chalk up) makes several practice strokes, then he eventually gets up (chalks up) and does several more practice strokes...
It's called being a jerk imo.hadjcues said:
He played fine against Gabe Owen at the Bike last January in the semis with a 30-second shot clock.
How long would it take a PRO to shoot this?
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He goes down, gets powder, chalks, gets up, chalks, shakes his head, blah, blah.
The poor audience start murmuring. Ref Michaela Tabb warns the crowd to stay quiet. He finally shoots and makes the 9 perfectly.
Alex Pagulayan comes down the aisle and announces " I'm going after him."
The announcers laugh.
How would Danny feel if someone pull the same move on him?
Jeesh, put two hours for a race to 5 then?
Are you talking about his match against Hsia? I am watching it right now and I felt like punching my computer screen because just when I thought he was going to shoot he would get up and do some more of his routine. He needs to cut that out and play quicker. He probably wins many of his matches because he slow plays his opponents until they get out of stroke and frustrated. He is playing so slow and deliberate it is really making me angry, I can only imagine how his opponents feel.
good luck man... my hats off to you.. if you can finish the match and still sane...
You're not the first.LastTwo said:
I refuse to watch any of his matches in person.
I'd rather get a root canal.
Is it possible that his antics are deliberate--geared to generate controversy, and hence, publicity (for his upcoming movie)? Or, is his pre-shot routine more of a compulsive ritual? I noticed at this years DCC he was given a warning by the referee about his slow play.
Martin
Martin
LastTwo said:
ask gabe
they played at the dcc last year,$$$ ,set time limit,when the time was up,gabe payed what was on the wire,then maybe went insane after being in that time warp,but on the other hand,both gabe and jj played very deliberate when they won the U.S.open,this is a very large payday,go U.S.A maybe thats why they won, they took there time,everybodys in a hurry!
they played at the dcc last year,$$$ ,set time limit,when the time was up,gabe payed what was on the wire,then maybe went insane after being in that time warp,but on the other hand,both gabe and jj played very deliberate when they won the U.S.open,this is a very large payday,go U.S.A maybe thats why they won, they took there time,everybodys in a hurry!
My apologies to all Danny's fans:
I am hoping that he will not make it to the knockout stages so that I do not need to watch him on TV. He is not really promoting the game of pool.
My father who does not play pool was actually disgusted watching him play....
I am certainly not a fan of Danny and will never be...
I am hoping that he will not make it to the knockout stages so that I do not need to watch him on TV. He is not really promoting the game of pool.
My father who does not play pool was actually disgusted watching him play....
I am certainly not a fan of Danny and will never be...