Danny Harriman said:
Look forward to the opportunity to here from you.
Look forward to the opportunity to here from you.
landshark77 said:
You make it too easy.....
If you would get your ass off this message board and spend half that amount of time applying yourself at work you might move up in the world.
$29K a year is right at the poverty level.
Of course if you are at work while you visit the message boards then of course you are overpaid. And when the boss gets around to checking the computers his employees use you will be history.
$29K was a good salary - 20 years ago. You are way behind the times girl.
Time for you to shut up and start applying yourself.
But it is nice to know that you admit you are at the bottom of the success chain. And you have the unmitigated gall to criticize people like Harry and myself who have found financial independence in this world.
LOL
Jake
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
Danny Harriman said:
I think it's great that you take an active part in this message board and impart your knowledge on its members.
jjinfla said:
A brutally frank statement, one with some merit, which I'd venture to guess applies to every single "regular" -- how would you define "regular"? -- participant on this forum who "works" -- how would you define "works"? -- on a computer; thus, why LS, JJinFLA, JAM, and quite a few others check in from time to time.
jjinfla said:
Depending on what part of the country you live in, $29,000 per annum PLUS BENEFITS -- key words here -- is a nice salary.
With that in mind, though, LS is a young lady who hasn't even entered the peak of her life, like you, JJinFLA, and me. Not a very nice thing to say to anyone, especially a college grad, who earns an honest wage.
jjinfla said:
Pick on someone your own size, IMHO!
JAM [Works on a computer for a living, too]
Coop1701 said:
Is that more, or less, than $29k?
I also found JJinFLA's comments inappropriate and quite mean-spirited...but, we all have our days. I too am an asshole!
Hey people. Do a search and see how many times she has called me an asshole. I'm supposed to feel sorry for her? Or respect her? Get serious. And besides, from reading her posts it is obvious that she is overpaid at work. But at least she knows how to say, "do you want fries with that order?"
My daughter works (keyword "works") for the State of Illinois and her computer usage is monitored. You might be surprised to learn that a computer on a network can be monitored from any other computer on that network. What comes up on your monitor can come up on any other monitor.
Have a good day. Got to go. I am having a ball selling on Ebay. Check me out. My Ebay ID is jjinfla.
Jake
My daughter works (keyword "works") for the State of Illinois and her computer usage is monitored. You might be surprised to learn that a computer on a network can be monitored from any other computer on that network. What comes up on your monitor can come up on any other monitor.
Have a good day. Got to go. I am having a ball selling on Ebay. Check me out. My Ebay ID is jjinfla.
Jake
I've seen ads on Monster.com and other places for chemists with BS degrees that only offer 12-14 an hour. That's right in the 25-30K range for a degree that involves taking organic chemistry classes,etc... these are intelligent college grads getting paid crappy wages.
There are a ton of computer programmers out there too who applied themselves to school, did all the right things and still are having a terrible time finding work after their jobs got e-mailed to India. Point is, just because someone isn't rolling in dough at the moment, it doesn't mean they're lazy or stupid. Especially a young person who's just getting started.
If you were a pro pool player, 29K would be a good year for most of them
29K in some parts of the country is plenty of money. Out here in Cali, though, they would laugh at you if you tried to buy a house. All depends on what you want and need. Got kids and want a house? JJinFLA is 100% right, you need to make $$ your number one priority or you have no chance with houses averaging over half a million bucks.
Just have to take care of yourself and can have a good time without being rich? 29k is enough to cover rent,beer,food and pool. Enjoy life while you're young. When you're 40 and have to watch sports on TV instead of play because you're too fat, got bad knees,etc... you can spend all your time worrying about cash.
There are a ton of computer programmers out there too who applied themselves to school, did all the right things and still are having a terrible time finding work after their jobs got e-mailed to India. Point is, just because someone isn't rolling in dough at the moment, it doesn't mean they're lazy or stupid. Especially a young person who's just getting started.
If you were a pro pool player, 29K would be a good year for most of them
29K in some parts of the country is plenty of money. Out here in Cali, though, they would laugh at you if you tried to buy a house. All depends on what you want and need. Got kids and want a house? JJinFLA is 100% right, you need to make $$ your number one priority or you have no chance with houses averaging over half a million bucks.
Just have to take care of yourself and can have a good time without being rich? 29k is enough to cover rent,beer,food and pool. Enjoy life while you're young. When you're 40 and have to watch sports on TV instead of play because you're too fat, got bad knees,etc... you can spend all your time worrying about cash.
RichardCranium said:The real problem is that "professional pool players" are also thier own "agents" ...the suits know this and can take advantage of that situation...(ie
The problem is there is no money in the first place...so how does the "agent" get paid...When and IF pool can get to the point where "professionals" can afford to have "agents" ....Then things will take off....and the "so called" shady promoters won't be able to take advantage of the players......AND the players will be able to do what they do best...."play pool"
You've hit the nail right on the head, RichardCranium! Today, the so-called professional players' opportunities to compete are plentiful. However, because of the low payouts and high attendance costs, it is difficult for many competent players to attend events around the world.
What's worse is when a player falls into the category of being labeled a "professional" and is then prohibited from competing because of organizational bureaucratic red tape and, in some instances, bright red stop signs. In essence, he/she is a pariah in today's pool world and is unable to attend professional and amateur events.
It only costs 100 bucks for a male player to be labeled a "professional" or "touring pro," but the organizational benefits, ones which were drafted by attorneys, seem to favor the organization more so than the unprotected player.
Danny Harriman has a legitimate beef, and it is great that he is going to be compensated for tournament winnings which are rightfully his. However, the organization to which he belonged should have looked into the matter, protecting Danny's interests as a member, long before Danny Harriman posted on this forum. Better late than never, though, and it looks as if there will be a happy ending to this saga.
Danny Harriman is one of my favorite players to watch. His powerful break is unreal, and when he cracks the balls, he's deadly on a field of green!
Picture of Danny Harriman and Jose Parica at the 2003 Capital City Classic in Philly, with Guido the Cue Mechanic doing his thing in the background!
JAM
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bud green said:
Bud, keep in mind that is the starting wage and they soon move up the ladder with increased benefits and wages. While many jobs are topped out at 29K with no future. Organic Chem is only one semester just like many other courses. If one is happy with 29K then that is all that matters. Just don't complain about it. Everyone controls their own destiny.
Pool players control their own destiny also. They have a product to sell only they do not know how to market it. At least the men don't.
I noticed over on the WPBA site they are becoming more inventive with marketing their players. They have items for sale. And they have a way for fans to become sponsors. One nice touch is that the more you subscribe for the more info they will provide. In other words they are not giving it away for free. I don't see any of this with the men. Every male player is basically on his own, running around from tournament to tournament hoping they can get hot and win a few bucks. And without a doubt they all think that gambling is really the only way to make it. So they keep looking for suckers. And half the time they are the sucker.
At least the women can really call themselves professional pool players. Anyone who competes in the WPBA has gone through the qualifying process before they can play in a WPBA event. And they deserve to use the word "professional" before their name. The men allow anyone who has the money to play. There is no real distinction of who is a professional pool player among the men.
Johnny Archer plays on the UPA Tour. Does that entitle him to be called a professional? I can join the UPA and play on the tour. Would I then be a professional? If so, I would be the one who never won a game.
And Earl Strickland does not play on the UPA Tour; does that mean that he is not a professional?
Don Mackey tried to organize the men. As did Alan Hopkins and B. Behrman to some extent. And Charlie Williams did also. But I don't see anything falling into place in the near future.
I think the main problem with pool is that people just do not want to spend 2,3, or 4 days watching a tournament. It works in golf for some reason but not in pool. And basically I believe that the fans would rather play pool than watch it.
Jake
jjinfla said:
Right on, Jake. The women have a clear definition of a professional. In women's pool, a professional is any player that earns four finshes in the top half of a WPBA event field in any stretch of ten WPBA events. Regional tours offer the vehicle for the participation in WPBA events by semi-pro and amateur players, enabling aspiring professionals to chase their dream. The most recent player to have become a professional in women's pool is Liz Schwartzreich , who earned the distinction at the Women's BCA Open, just a week before her wedding day.
Who is a pro in women's pool is a matter of record, not a matter of opinion, and that's as it should be. The men don't have such a system and probably should.
D
Danny Harriman
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Re: TO Cue Ball1950
I did my homework and as I thought you were mistaken about the US Open where I forfeited, I lost my first match to a gentleman who was not seeded and I remember it well because I recall taking the match for granted. I then proceeded to win either 6 or 7 matches in a row and having to then play Dave Bollman the local favorite. I know this sounds silly but I read the match on the tournament board wrong and they did not know how to get in touch with me so I had to forfit. This is what happened exactly and I can't forget
cause of how incredibly stupid I felt, so if your going to tell a story then please get your facts straight. I might even be able to tell you the name of the fellow from Tennessee if I really dug deep in this matter but again you are definitely mistaken about me forfeiting out of anger that was not how it went down at all. I do not understand how people can tell a story but have no real idea about what it is their talking about, I think they call this speaking out of turn. If you would care to make a wager about whether I'm wright or wrong about this then the window is open and you may bet what you want.
Sincerely, Danny Harriman
I did my homework and as I thought you were mistaken about the US Open where I forfeited, I lost my first match to a gentleman who was not seeded and I remember it well because I recall taking the match for granted. I then proceeded to win either 6 or 7 matches in a row and having to then play Dave Bollman the local favorite. I know this sounds silly but I read the match on the tournament board wrong and they did not know how to get in touch with me so I had to forfit. This is what happened exactly and I can't forget
cause of how incredibly stupid I felt, so if your going to tell a story then please get your facts straight. I might even be able to tell you the name of the fellow from Tennessee if I really dug deep in this matter but again you are definitely mistaken about me forfeiting out of anger that was not how it went down at all. I do not understand how people can tell a story but have no real idea about what it is their talking about, I think they call this speaking out of turn. If you would care to make a wager about whether I'm wright or wrong about this then the window is open and you may bet what you want.
Sincerely, Danny Harriman
I nominate JAM for pool commisioner. Everybody help her write the bylaws of her new organization that will protect the rights of the players. I would like to apply for membership. My first suggestion is that Keith McCready be banned due to conflict of interest. My second suggestion is that the players who compete are the owners of the tour, and gain stock by competing in events. Anybody else?JAM said:
unknownpro
I once watch Danny Harriman in action,he was doing the 9 ball break,and nearly scratch,but his body english kept it out.
But it was unlucky for him to get self snooked on the 2,he did a push out,but Drago refuse to take it.Harriman lose,but it was a great match to watch.
Drago had an easy run on all the balls.
I bet u can still remember that match,right Danny Harriman?
Regards...
But it was unlucky for him to get self snooked on the 2,he did a push out,but Drago refuse to take it.Harriman lose,but it was a great match to watch.
Drago had an easy run on all the balls.
I bet u can still remember that match,right Danny Harriman?
Regards...