Daryl Peach on Efren Reyes...

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On the UK 9-ball website I ran across this comment from Daryl Peach a year ago about Efren Reyes:

Q: "Who, in your opinion, was the greatest ever to pick up a cue (snooker, pool, whatever)?"

"Snooker: Ronnie O'Sullivan

Pool: Efren Reyes

Overall: Efren because I saw him play Jimmy White and Ronnie O'Sullivan 6 years ago, at snooker best of 5 for £100 each if I remember rightly: he beat both of them with his pool cue, and he made 3 centuries!! Now that's special."

Wow. Of course I've heard stories before about Efren playing different games, like the one about his 3-C game where he didn't think anyone in the world could beat him until he saw Ceulemans play. But if he really did beat White and O'Sullivan at snooker that really is something special.
 
I've heard that Efren plays pretty good snooker, the question is why didn't he ever pursue it? It's much more lucrative than pool ever will be :confused:
 
sniper said:
I've heard that Efren plays pretty good snooker, the question is why didn't he ever pursue it? It's much more lucrative than pool ever will be :confused:
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I asked Efren that a few years back.
I told him they were paying snooker champs in Europe in hundreds of thousands of dollar for one tournament.
I asked him if he'd play them. He flat out said he can't beat them.
He was very good at english billiards, balkline and snooker ( Asian games gold medalis iirc) before he became world famous at pool.
 
As much as I admire Efren I think there is something missing from this story, I seriously doubt wether they played even especially if efren played with his pool cue. Also, even though I think Efren is prob the best alround player that ever lived I would never back him at snooker against somebody like Ronnie. He simply couldn't live with him, Ronnie is better than most of the BEST snooker players in the world with his left hand there's no way on earth Efren could compete with him and certainly not playing with a 9 ball cue!

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i will take what peach said at face value because he did not qualify his statement about reyes's win over both snooker players. he would have mentioned any special circumstances,,, as he did about reyes playing with his pool cue.

i would guess that reyes' not playing snooker has as much to do with the fact that he probably enjoys "doing stuff" to the cb that he wouldn't be able to do in snooker. besides,,,he's doing fine and he's god in the phillipines, so money may not be a priority with him.
 
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I have heared this story a few times and something doesn't add up. I would just like to know more info, I wish I had remembered this as I would have asked Efren when I played him. It seems strange that he says flat out that "he can't beat them" and somebody else says he saw him beat them!?

I'll take Efrens word for it, from the horses mouth so to speak :-)
 
Efren is without doubt the best player to pick up a pool cue.
As for him beating either snooker player, I dont give him much chance. Ronnie would just kill him playing left or right handed and jimmy white like's to gamble and i dont see him losing either, They are the sort of guys that would just give the cash up to see someone play them with a pool cue.
It is a great story and may well be true if Daryl said it. If Efren though he had a chance playing snooker6 years ago do you realy think he would still play 9 Ball?????????


TheOne said:
I have heared this story a few times and something doesn't add up. I would just like to know more info, I wish I had remembered this as I would have asked Efren when I played him. It seems strange that he says flat out that "he can't beat them" and somebody else says he saw him beat them!?

I'll take Efrens word for it, from the horses mouth so to speak :-)
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I agree Tony, if Efren was good enough for snooker he would have played that instead. He might have been if he had played it and had the chances some of the kids have in the UK from an early age. But I don't think he has ever been at a level to compete with the very best at snooker. He IS still the greatest though :-)
 
PoolBum said:
On the UK 9-ball website I ran across this comment from Daryl Peach a year ago about Efren Reyes:

Q: "Who, in your opinion, was the greatest ever to pick up a cue (snooker, pool, whatever)?"

"Snooker: Ronnie O'Sullivan

Pool: Efren Reyes

Overall: Efren because I saw him play Jimmy White and Ronnie O'Sullivan 6 years ago, at snooker best of 5 for £100 each if I remember rightly: he beat both of them with his pool cue, and he made 3 centuries!! Now that's special."

Wow. Of course I've heard stories before about Efren playing different games, like the one about his 3-C game where he didn't think anyone in the world could beat him until he saw Ceulemans play. But if he really did beat White and O'Sullivan at snooker that really is something special.
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I've heard that story and don't believe a word of it. Not one thing about the story makes sense, first of all O'Sullivan doesn't gamble at all as far as I know
and why would he play for $100 or 100 pounds? He's
a multi-millionaire, him playing for $100 would be like most people playing for 50 cents. I don't mean to put Reyes down, he's a great pool player, the key word
there is POOL. If he was even remotely near world class at snooker he would be playing it for a living.
As for 3 cushion billiards, I've seen him play it and
he would have no chance against the pro's, none.
He's about a 1.00 handicap as opposed to 1.8 to 2.0
averages of the top players...a word of difference.
 
PoolBum said:
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Q: "Who, in your opinion, was the greatest ever to pick up a cue (snooker, pool, whatever)?"
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Overall: Efren because I saw him ...
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"Because I saw him" says the real story. I bet he never saw Greenleaf play, or Mosconi, or Walter Lindrum, or Don Willis, or either John Roberts, or probably even Raymond Ceulemans. All of these "best ever" polls are riddled with ignornace.

Now if the question had been, the greatest player active today, he might have a case, depending on which players he had actually seen.
 
Bob Jewett said:
"Because I saw him" says the real story. I bet he never saw Greenleaf play, or Mosconi, or Walter Lindrum, or Don Willis, or either John Roberts, or probably even Raymond Ceulemans.
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Not everyone is as old as you, Bob... lol.
 
this is all easily resolved,,,,,,,,just ask. that shouldn't be too hard.

otherwise, why should peach say what he said.
 
sniper said:
I've heard that Efren plays pretty good snooker, the question is why didn't he ever pursue it? It's much more lucrative than pool ever will be :confused:
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He never persued it because he knows he would never make the grade. Efren would get eaten alive on the pro snooker scene, the same goes for any top pool player.

Why do you think all those British 9-ball players play
9-ball instead of snooker? Because they couldn't cut it playing on the 12 foot tables with 3 and a half inch pockets.



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Mr441 said:
He never persued it because he knows he would never make the grade. Efren would get eaten alive on the pro snooker scene, the same goes for any top pool player.

Why do you think all those British 9-ball players play
9-ball instead of snooker? Because they couldn't cut it playing on the 12 foot tables with 3 and a half inch pockets.



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the fact that he did what he did is a credit to his skills, but he knew he couldn't do this on a regular basis.

.....but everyone is making it sound like it's impossible and was never done. this is efren reyes, for christ's sake! my brother saw hawaiian brian run a snooker table on some shmoe snooker player who thought he was hot-sh*t,,,and brian didn't even play snooker.
 
bruin70 said:
the fact that he did what he did is a credit to his skills....

This story has not been verified as "fact". Reyes chances of beating two top snooker players back to back would be about the same as myself beating Tiger Woods and then Phil Mickelson 18 holes each and I'm a 15 handicap, it's just not going to happen.

Everyone talks about Reyes like he's god, he's a great player no doubt about it but you wanna talk really great players? How about Blomdahl or Ceulemans the great billiards players, they're so much better at what they do then Reyes is at what he does there's no comparison. Ceulemans dominated 3-cushion from the early 60's to the mid 80's! What has Efren done? One world 9-ball title...ZERO world one pocket titles (supposedly his best game). I know this sounds harsh but facts are facts.



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"i would guess that reyes' not playing snooker has as much to do with the fact that he probably enjoys "doing stuff" to the cb that he wouldn't be able to do in snooker."

perhaps this is my ignorance, but what can efren do with a cueball that he wouldnt be able to do in snooker? you should see some of the ridiculous spin shots snooker players pull when they're out of position.
 
Wrong

Mr441 said:
bruin70 said:
the fact that he did what he did is a credit to his skills....

This story has not been verified as "fact". Reyes chances of beating two top snooker players back to back would be about the same as myself beating Tiger Woods and then Phil Mickelson 18 holes each and I'm a 15 handicap, it's just not going to happen.

Everyone talks about Reyes like he's god, he's a great player no doubt about it but you wanna talk really great players? How about Blomdahl or Ceulemans the great billiards players, they're so much better at what they do then Reyes is at what he does there's no comparison. Ceulemans dominated 3-cushion from the early 60's to the mid 80's! What has Efren done? One world 9-ball title...ZERO world one pocket titles (supposedly his best game). I know this sounds harsh but facts are facts.



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AZ Billiards player profile disagrees with you.

http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showplayer2005.cfm?playernum=228

Efren has also won the Derby City Classic One Packet and Overall Champion back to back (2004 and 2005) and almost did it for 9-Ball too. He was 2nd in 2004 and first on 2005.
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Define World Championship

Bobby said:
The Derby City Classic is not the World Championships.
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Please define what World Championship means?

Anything that has "World" as it's title is World Championship?
 
BlowFish said:
Please define what World Championship means?

Anything that has "World" as it's title is World Championship?
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Anything that says "World Championships" would be
a world title. That's how it is in any other sport,
pool is no different.
 
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