dead balls in the stack

I believe when it comes to taking shots at wired balls to the poclet one also has to have an understanding of how balls will seperate to allow a surrounded wired ball to be pocketed !
 
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Not to be misunderstood Bob- i really understand what you wanna tell me in your thread- but in the situation you figured out is also hard to make *the perfect* shot. For myself i can swear 100 % that i really like *searching in the forrest* for a combination- and also like strategy/safety-wars. All depends on how the game already ran. If i play straight-pool for my team, i always think the best of my opponent-i don t care how he *might* do a mistake or something like that. I always think that he will do the next ball if i would give him the chance- so i would choose the third foul for sure. And if the game it s not totally unlucky i m really sure to see if a combination *is do-able* and won t give my opponent the chance to steal it from me :)
I often try to tell this ppl, too-to not think to make a risky ball just because the opponent perhaps is not a hell of a shooter. This i try to explain that it isn t very sporty, too. A player did it with me in a game very long ago. He was very far in front- 115:20 or so- and i started to make fouls, safeties etc. - he came to the table and breaked the rack like in 8-ball.......- the audience were a bit surprised,and me, too. It gave me personally a great push, that this guy let me feel what he was thinkin about me (without knowing me). I won that game at least- thx god^^

On the other side i sometimes wondering about some players when they re talkin about *low percentage* shots, or even so about shots they call easy.
Easy or difficult....if the ball is do-able you *just* have to make your *straight* stroke. Just youself decide if a shot is difficult or easy- the longer you think how hard the shot is, the more difficult it will be for sure.
No time for negative ^^

sry if i went a bit off-topic, the keyboard-devil caught me for short^^

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The problem I see with this strategy is that if you shoot the opening break shot after a third foul, I think you are less than 50% to have the first open shot. (Otherwise, you would choose to break when winning the lag.) That means taking a third foul not only loses you 16 more points, but it will probably give your opponent the first shot. In the scenario above, there was no way to get him on two before your third.

If you take the combo and it goes, you have a chance to run out. I prefer the positive path.

Another factor to consider when there is "maybe" a shot out of the rack is that you can't afford to leave it for your opponent to shoot. You have to either not give him an angle to hit it or you have to disturb it in a way that is guaranteed to spoil it.

I once heard Irving Crane say that in all the years he played Mosconi, Willie never left him a shot in the rack.


A player must put aside the % and have faith in themselves. By taking a three foul penalty and making an opening break. A player must have faith in their abilities to preform a proper opening break shot. Leaving their opponent with no shot and forcing them to take a very long safe shot.
As for a "maybe" shot. Yes, you must disturb that shot while playing a
safe off the rack and leaving him up table or where ever.
 
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Well, only because I'm in a particularly *giving* mood today, I will let you guys "in" on one of the games biggest secrets. How to play a dead ball (out of the full rack) when stranded up table...

PLEASE DON'T SPREAD THIS SECRET TO THE MASSES...ITS OUR LITTLE SECRET, OK?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ub9LL2qIg
 
Well, only because I'm in a particularly *giving* mood today, I will let you guys "in" on one of the games biggest secrets. How to play a dead ball (out of the full rack) when stranded up table...[/COLOR

PLEASE DON'T SPREAD THIS SECRET TO THE MASSES...ITS OUR LITTLE SECRET, OK?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ub9LL2qIg


Does that shot work a majority of the time?! I noticed u didn't go full speed...any reason?
 
A player must put aside the % and have faith in themselves. By taking a three foul penalty and making an opening break. A player must have faith in their abilities to preform a proper opening break shot. Leaving their opponent with no shot and forcing them to take a very long safe shot.
As for a "maybe" shot. Yes, you must disturb that shot while playing a
safe off the rack and leaving him up table or where ever.


In a tournament Saturday, I needed about 5 and my opponent needed about 40. There were maybe a few balls loose and I think I left him against the stack. He ended up taking 3 fouls rather than leave me an open shot. He played a nice opening safe and now I was on 2 fouls. My safe left him a shot, not a great shot but a tough one. He ran over two racks on me and didn't let me see much.

Before long, we were in another safety battle, me needing 6 and him needing 8 with lots of balls open. I left him in the middle of the bottom short rail and he tried to slice a ball up in one of the top corner pockets. If he made it, he would have easily run out. He missed and I ran out.
 
Does that shot work a majority of the time?! I noticed u didn't go full speed...any reason?
Nah, it doesn't go very often. That's why I was being facetious with the "playing the percentages".

How to make it if you want to try it sometime...I play the shot as if I'm breaking 1P. That is, I aim for about a pretty thick hit (about 1/2 ball from the angle I was on, probably close to 3/4 if near the long rail) on the "2nd" ball with inside english. You can watch the video to pick up how thick the hit is. A good rack is a necessity and you can't power it in...note how it barely reaches the pocket.
 
Great match

In a tournament Saturday, I needed about 5 and my opponent needed about 40. There were maybe a few balls loose and I think I left him against the stack. He ended up taking 3 fouls rather than leave me an open shot. He played a nice opening safe and now I was on 2 fouls. My safe left him a shot, not a great shot but a tough one. He ran over two racks on me and didn't let me see much.

Before long, we were in another safety battle, me needing 6 and him needing 8 with lots of balls open. I left him in the middle of the bottom short rail and he tried to slice a ball up in one of the top corner pockets. If he made it, he would have easily run out. He missed and I ran out.


Thanks for the comment. That sounds like you two had one heck of a great match. I wish I could of been there to watch.
 
Thanks for the comment. That sounds like you two had one heck of a great match. I wish I could of been there to watch.

It was kind of tense at the end. He has a high run of 70 and is a stronger player than me though once in a while I can get him. I was kind of down because it felt like the game was mine, but it was slipping away. Our last safety battle was intense. He has better cue ball control than me so I was worried he would see daylight first. I held on and he blinked first this time.
 
Wow.....

It was kind of tense at the end. He has a high run of 70 and is a stronger player than me though once in a while I can get him. I was kind of down because it felt like the game was mine, but it was slipping away. Our last safety battle was intense. He has better cue ball control than me so I was worried he would see daylight first. I held on and he blinked first this time.



That was a match. 70 ball run..... how strong is that during a match and you still beat him. I always preach that strong defense can keep you in the game and win it for you too. You do not have to be a strong offensive player to win matches as long as you play smart. But.... the main goal is to improve your game on both sides of the coin.
Great match Dennis.
 
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