Dealing with "guests"

Ruark

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This is my first post on this terrific forum. I'm 58, and live in a rural area about 70 miles NW of Austin, TX. My wife and I just moved into a new house on 25 acres, with a large "pool room" about 16 X 28 feet. 4 weeks ago, I had a dream come true: my first "real" pool table. It's an Olhausen Americana, upgraded to Accufast cushions, Deluxe 6" rails, and Simonis 860 in Marine Blue. I had it professionaly installed and leveled. This table's performance is awesome! The balls roll absolutely true and steady, like they were on tracks or rails, even if they're barely moving. Wonderful. Man, I'm in heaven... (-;

Balls are Aramith Premiums. Cues are plain vanilla Players, but soon I'll be upgrading to something better. My playing style is slow, gentle, deliberate, self-paced, laid back. Dark room, smooth jazz in the background.

I played constantly back in my 20's. Now I'm returning to it as a serious student. I don't have anybody to play with, really, as I'm an hour or more from the nearest significant city, and even then I don't care for the big "commercial pool hall" scene - crowds, noise, dirty tables, etc. But I love playing just for the relaxation and satisfaction of hearing the balls click. I guess you could call me a "serious home player." Anyway, glad to be here.

My question concerns dealing with other people using the table. As you might gather, this is a "serious" table, not a wood-topped Walmart cheapie for high school ballbangers. I'm extremely protective of it, and don't want it bumped or leaned on, or the cloth or rails damaged. How do you "protect" your table against well-meaning people who might damage it? You know, company comes over, and first thing you hear is, "Hey, wow, nice table!! Come'on, let's get some beer and shoot some pool!!!"

Case in point. Last weekend a couple in the family dropped in. Young, polite, educated professionals in their mid 20's. They saw the table and of course wanted to play. They looked "safe." Big mistake.

The husband stalked around the table in big steps, as if he were circling some vicious beast, and hit EVERY SINGLE shot as hard as he physically could, even 6 inch tap-ins. It was as if somebody had offered him a million dollars if he could break the cue ball. You get the picture.

The wife was a nightmare. Turned out she'd literally never held a cue before, and had no idea how to bridge or aim or shoot ("er... knock the colored ball in with the white ball, see...") She'd have the tip 2 feet away from the cue ball and thrust WILDLY towards it, usually missing it completely.

Sometimes the tip would rake across the cloth, or go under the cue ball, throwing it a foot up into the air. Finally she turned to me and complained, "I can't hit it hard enough to make it go across the table!!" A couple of times she grabbed a ball out of a pocket in anger, and SLAMMED it back down on the table.

After about 20 minutes, she lost interest and quit playing. "I don't wanna play pool, it's boring," she whined. I moaned in agreement. Her husband thought it was great, however, and wants to come back and "play a few games." Sigh....

Apparently there was no damage done, although she managed to put a gouge in one of the cues about 6 inches from the tip by unconciously digging her wedding ring into it. I just use it for a break cue.

Obviously, most of the forum readers are experienced players and have a lot of labor and love invested in your tables and equipment, and treat them with meticulous care. So I'm just wondering, how do you deal with guests? Read them a list of rules? Lock the door to the pool room? How do you respond when several people are over and one of them says, "hey, me and Bill wanna shoot some pool!!!"?

I mean, these are nice people, not jerks, and I don't want to come off like a snob or something, but at the same time, this is a "serious" table and I don't want it abused or damaged.

I apologize for the long post. I promise to keep them short from now on... (-;

Thanks,
Ruark
 
I practice with Centennial balls and Delta rack. Nobody (except those I trust) that visits knows that, hey shoot with Aramith Pros, cheap wood rack and cheap 1 piece cues. If I could, I would change out the cloth as well, but such is life.


PS. Welcome to AZ
 
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I practice with Centennial balls and Delta rack. Nobody (except those I trust) that visits knows that, hey shoot with Aramith Pros, cheap wood rack and cheap 1 piece cues. If I could, I would change out the cloth as well, but such is life.


PS. Welcome to AZ

How is someone going to hurt a Delta rack or Centennial Balls for that matter? Their both pretty bulletproof. I do keep my playing stick in my case though.
 
Maybe break out a sign and prominently display it when guests are coming.

Also, I assume you keep it covered when guests come? That says "I am special, don't mess with me!"


Post some basic rules, ya know...

- No drinks or smokes on or near table

- Don't gouge the cloth

- Don't hit balls unneccesarily hard

- No doggie stylin' on the table


I dunno, that's a tough call. The main thing is you have to be there and set 'em straight before they mangle your treasure.
 
I once used: "The table's broken. Not sure what it is. Guy's coming out next week to look at it." Hey, it worked.
 
If you cannot tell your guests how valuable and protective you are of your table, then you must accept the possibility there will be damage.

'Serious players only, no recreational play allowed'
This table is for gambling post the $$$ and then let's play.
 
I've experienced EXACTLY what you describe and it's painful to watch. I just tell them to take it easy on the equipment and try to show them correct way. If they are interested in learning they will listen, if not a couple of games and we're done. The table cover is an easy way to discourage casual players. I figure if they get pissed at my concern for MY equipment they can take a hike :D
 
Here's my take on it.

I have a Gold Crown I in my basement I replaced the cushions, cloth with Superpro's and I even set it up myself. This table has been around since the sixties and is in great shape. However I'm not worried about it I even let my 6 year old use it.

Why ? Its just a table it was made to be used in a commercial environment so I dont worry about it.

But I refuse to let anyone use my playing cue thats were I draw the line.

Enjoy your new table I'm sure as time goes by you wont stress out too much about company playing on it.
 
Everytime someone is coming over, put the cover on the table.

When they get ready to play, slowly and gently remove the cover. Let them see you taking extreme care of your investment. Speak of how you just had it leveled and talk of the imported, fancy wood it is made of. Explain how Simonis is imported from one of the finest European manufacturers, etc.

Make shit up as you go along. The point is that you want them thinking your table is to pool what a Ferrari is to cars.

If they don't get the hint, you may have to just tell them to calm the hell down or else. :wink:
 
How is someone going to hurt a Delta rack or Centennial Balls for that matter? Their both pretty bulletproof. I do keep my playing stick in my case though.

Yeah, I'm more concerned with protecting the table and cloth, not the balls or the cheap cues. Out here where I live, a Simonis replacement will run close to $500, a re-levelling, I don't know, but not cheap at 80 miles from the installer.

Thanks,
Ruark
 
We have a Gandy Big G 9' in our garage. We have a few basic rules...
#1 Do NOT sit on the rails
#2 No drinks over the table
#3 No smokes over the table

For other things I look at it this way (especially since it's a commercial table):
* They are not going to hurt the slate by slamming a ball on it
* They are not going to hurt the rails by hitting the ball really hard
* If they hit hard and don't know what they are doing, they aren't going to be hitting it with stun or draw so the odds of them causing cloth burn marks are little to none
* Dragging the tip of the cue on the cloth isn't going to hurt it, just leaves chalk marks
* Hitting the balls hard into each other aren't going to hurt them

I also have two sets of balls. A new(ish) set of Aramith Premiers and an old yellowed set of Centenials. The Centenials are really scratched up and pitted, the Premiers are nice and shiny. When "bangers" come over I put the Centenials on the table and use it's red circle cue ball. When I and my wife play or we have other serious players over we use the Permiers and the measles cue ball. This is mainly because the garage floor is concrete and I don't want the nice balls to fly off the table and get pitted.

Just remember... Slate is really hard and cushions are rubber and nice and bouncy. It's really tough to hurt either of them, even for a banger!

Brian
 
I feel your pain as well. Watching a banger hit on your precious table is liking watching someone do your wife from the closet. You cringe with every movement.
 
That is your Table.

Everyone has good comments. My table means a lot to me and I do not want anyone to abused it. The table cover really sends out the best message and will keep people away. I do not let my grand kids throw balls down the table. They use to, which really annoyed me to no end. When I seen them pulling themselves up by gabbing onto the rails. I put a stop to it. I told everyone that my pool table is no toy. My son is an Artist. I do not think he would let his kids play with all his paintings & art supplies. I have my game room fixed up really nice. So, I do think it sends out a message of No Fooling Around. Good luck wih your table.
 
i have 2 tables in my house,

one for bangers and I dont care what happens to it, and never had a problem, I just tell them no drinks on the table.


one for players and I dont care what happens to it. I dont say a word to them as I know they are players and know what not to do. This one gets used 10 to 20 hours for every one hour the other one does, the door to it leads out side to a guest house so its open 24/7 for who ever is staying with me, I often walk in on games. I havea kinda big house and cant hear the balls so it dosent matter. This last winter it was going 12-14 hours a day 5-6 days a week or more,
 
Everyone has good comments. My table means a lot to me and I do not want anyone to abused it. The table cover really sends out the best message and will keep people away. I do not let my grand kids throw balls down the table. They use to, which really annoyed me to no end. When I seen them pulling themselves up by gabbing onto the rails. I put a stop to it. I told everyone that my pool table is no toy. My son is an Artist. I do not think he would let his kids play with all his paintings & art supplies. I have my game room fixed up really nice. So, I do think it sends out a message of No Fooling Around. Good luck wih your table.

I'm torn.. I see exactly where you are coming from... on the other hand I have 2 young boys... 6 and 3.... I don't want them to be afraid of the table... I want them, in time to become decent pool players... but I don't want to wreck my table in the process..

it's a very fine line...

what I did... I put mercury ultra as the cloth ... resilient enough to put in a bar and decent enough that it's used in more tournaments than any other cloth..

best of both worlds..

as long as your cues don't have jagged edges you are probably not going to rip a decent cloth...

no liquids in the pool room .. and wash your hands are the only rules in my house... other than no smoking...

I have played very good players and total novices on my table and it is in as good a condition today as it was the day I had the cloth installed..
 
Yes it is

I'm torn.. I see exactly where you are coming from... on the other hand I have 2 young boys... 6 and 3.... I don't want them to be afraid of the table... I want them, in time to become decent pool players... but I don't want to wreck my table in the process..

it's a very fine line...

what I did... I put mercury ultra as the cloth ... resilient enough to put in a bar and decent enough that it's used in more tournaments than any other cloth..

best of both worlds..

as long as your cues don't have jagged edges you are probably not going to rip a decent cloth...

no liquids in the pool room .. and wash your hands are the only rules in my house... other than no smoking...

I have played very good players and total novices on my table and it is in as good a condition today as it was the day I had the cloth installed..


Yes, it is a fine line. I raised two boys & two girls. I did not let them bang balls around on my table when they were young, but did let them take shots as long as I was there to help them. After a little while they get bored and then they went and played with their toys. When they got older they had respect for my table and always played the correct way.
This post does ask about guest coming over. That is a hard thing to deal with. I have let many people play pool on my table. I do not play. I just watch. If a person is shooting every shot hard. I will say something and show them that they can get position by hitting the shot soft. I have never had a problem with guest abusing my table. Maybe, I have been lucky. Like I said in my last comment. The cover sends a great message.
 
If you cannot tell your guests how valuable and protective you are of your table, then you must accept the possibility there will be damage.

'Serious players only, no recreational play allowed'
This table is for gambling post the $$$ and then let's play.

Exactly right Tom! I make sure to let everyone know that my table is for playing serious pool only. No bangers allowed!!

Even then, if someone is playing and they are making me nervous, I tell them or ask them to be more careful. I spent alot of money on my table and I want to keep it nice. They usually understand and comply.

Can the original poster please post up picks of his table??

I have never seen Simonis 860 in Marine Blue color.

Thanks,

Russ...
 
And I thought my "Royal Blue" Simonis 860 was dark!!!!

I recently bought the Tournament Blue for my table because the Royal is too dark.

Thanks for the info!

Best,

Russ....
 
I explain, very calmly, as they do wrong, how that wrong can cause damage to the table. I show them how to hold the cue and how softly to stroke explaining how the shot goes in better if it's shot easy, how the cloth can be torn if caution is not taken. If anyone were to abuse the equipment, llike slamming a ball down I'd tell them not to do it again under penalty of banishment. It can be said nicely, calmly, politely IF you have your words already chosen. Be ready next time. Get the speech ready now and be sure to use a warm smile and make eye contact. You may cause them to get angry but that's not your fault if you have been careful to say things politely. It does take some rehearsal or the emotions will come through and cause hurt feelings.

I put the good balls away when company is coming and I put a string across my good cues in the rack so they cannot be used. I explain how expensive they were.
 
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