Dealing with pool players can be ridiculous: your opinion on my pool table sale

If you are going to give it away, maybe find a veterans hall or someplace to donate it.


AKA Noah Buddy
 
I’d probably tell him you don’t finance his investments for free.

I’m not sure which part is more disrespectful, the fact that he is basically letting you finance his profit making venture, or the fact that he feels like he can just tell you Ike it’s not a problem.
 
Everyone we interact with are either givers or takers.

ID who falls into which category asap and act accordingly.

Know that the takers are basically a charity of your choosing with eyes wide open.

best,
brian kc
 
I actually respect that he told you.

He's a user of people and a shameless exploiter of situations. You've learned that now, and that is worth something. It's up to you if it is worth the bath you'd take on the table.

My uncle told me a story when I was 12 about loaning a friend $500 in the '70's. Said the guy never paid him back. I told my uncle that he must have been pretty angry about it. Unc replied that he wasn't angry at all, it was worth $500 to find out what kind of person the guy was.

I’d lean more towards he doesn’t respect him enough to feel like he has anything to lose by telling him, so I don’t think he’s actually being honorable by telling him.
 
So far, there's no deal, and no profit for anybody.

There are a lot of people who just like to string along a deal, to have some fun, and never come up with the goods. Don't be surprised if this happens to one of those cases. Not a sermon, just the facts.

All the best,
WW
 
Thanks guys. This has been rather interesting thus far. I'm actually more interested in the psychology than anything else. Humans sure are a bizarre lot!
 
Howdy fellas. I kinda feel a bit pissed about the oral terms of my pool table sale. Long story short, I've agreed to sell my valley bar box to a fella on my BCAPL team for $XXX (not a sum of money I'm really concerned about). He was interested and I wanted to help out a fellow pool player and teammate by giving him a deal I knew was under priced for the market (I'm a softy when it comes to broke D$#% pool players). He says that he wants it, but wants to make installment payments on a weekly basis and when its paid off we agreed he would take posession of the table. No money has ever been forthcoming, so I forgot about it all. That was several months ago...

Fast forward to yesterday: he calls me up and says that he still wants to "buy" the table, the only thing is that he is gonna "let" his friend buy it for a higher price, pay me the original price we had negotiated and then pocket the difference as his profit. I'm calling bullshit on this one and feel kinda pissed off.

Am I out of bounds for feeling pissed? Would I technically be reneging on a deal? I feel betrayed frankly. I guess no good deed goes unpunished???

Part of me just wants to go ahead with it and get it out of my hair (upcoming home move in a year or so).

Opinions???

Just explain to him that since he won't be using it himself he loses the 'friend' discount, and since he is planning on flipping it he gets the 'dealer' mark-up. And adjust the price accordingly.
 
I would tell him that you were going out of your way to help him, and could get more money but wanted him to have it so he would have a table to practice on. I'd tell him you will sell it directly to the other guy and pay him a finder's fee. I would not let him take advantage of your good heart.

I've had this happen many times to me as I always try to help out people. Most recently I had a friend cry to me in frontnof his mother for a $180 loan to pay a cell phone bill so he could stay in touch with his kid. When he left (I gave him 150, all I had on me) his mother told me he was using it to buy a train ticket for his girlfriend of 2 months to go to a MMA event. Thanks. I went down to his car as he was pulling out (did I mention this was at the hospital as I was there to see my sick dad?) And told him I knew the truth and asked him for it back. He wouldn't, so I took it back forcefully.

Also once gave a cue to a friend to use to play in our league. She sold it to a pawn shop and bought a cheaper pink one and kept the extra money. It was only a $70 Cue but still hurts to be taken advantage of.


Also, anyone know what the red dot beside my username means? I haven't used this forum in years as i had to take a break from pool after a workplace accident injury. Thanks
 
Fast forward to yesterday: he calls me up and says that he still wants to "buy" the table, the only thing is that he is gonna "let" his friend buy it for a higher price, pay me the original price we had negotiated and then pocket the difference as his profit. I'm calling bullshit on this one and feel kinda pissed off.

This is a tough one but I think the best thing to do would be to tell him that you were selling below market value and giving him the friend deal discount because it was for him, but since this is not going to be for him now you can't cut the same deal but you will be glad to give him a hundred dollar finders fee (or whatever you think is appropriate based on the selling price) to show your appreciation for finding the buyer.
 
If you really are giving him a bargain basement price on your table I would tell him pound sand. The deal you gave him was you trying to help a friend out, not giving him a table on the cheap that he could turn around and profit on. From the sounds of it your buddy isnt even taking possession of your table, he flipped it for profit instead, it takes a real piece of work to pull a stunt like that!!!
 
I would chop it into little pieces, set the pile on fire, and send him the video of it burning before I would ever consider "helping out" someone like that!
 
The more I think about it the more I think you should just tell him that you don't appreciate him trying to take advantage of your kindness and the favor you tried to do for him (which was even going to cost you money), and that at the least what he should be doing is trying to return the favor by setting you up with the buyer directly (which isn't even going to cost him a thing).

If he does it, hopefully he gets the point and will have learned a lesson, and if not at least he learned where the line was with you and that you are not going to let yourself be taken advantage of and hopefully he won't try to take advantage of you again in the future (overly optimistic and small chance on any of this probably). If he says no, just scratch him off the friends and people you are friendly with list permanently.
 
The more I think about it the more I think you should just tell him that you don't appreciate him trying to take advantage of your kindness and the favor you tried to do for him (which was even going to cost you money), and that at the least what he should be doing is trying to return the favor by setting you up with the buyer directly (which isn't even going to cost him a thing).

If he does it, hopefully he gets the point and will have learned a lesson, and if not at least he learned where the line was with you and that you are not going to let yourself be taken advantage of and hopefully he won't try to take advantage of you again in the future (overly optimistic and small chance on any of this probably). If he says no, just scratch him off the friends and people you are friendly with list permanently.

Thanks, I'm of like mind here. I think that the bottom line with me is that I don't want to encourage this kind of mindset. I'm sure it will be lost on him though, but whatever.
 
The transaction of the sale is known as Two friends and a stranger.
 
The transaction of the sale is known as Two friends and a stranger.

Lol, yup. I've seen 3 man ring games arranged thusly. Some consider hustling an art. And it just might be. It's also sad and only guarantees that everyone loses.
 
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