Deano

Well there you go again, but I get it you only got refund, and can not let go. You should be happy you got refund.😀

This thread started as we’re is Deanoc, but asshats had to reignite fire that had burned out.

People wonder why Pool is in toilet, because no one works to fix, or make better.

Pool is many games, 14/1, 9 Ball, One Pocket, Banks, Snooker, 3-C, etc. All fun for some people.

Players even waist time arguing over what’s best. 9 Ball or?

Like I said you got refund, you should be happy, move on you Will stress ♥️ Less.😁

I only got a refund as a favor to dealers who asked me not to post photos and harangue Dean. I held up my end as long as he stopped spamming.

He didn't stop spamming.

Really he is lucky I sent it back, so I can only say "I had one, look at these horrible photos" instead of "I own one, it fell apart in my hands, look at these hilarious photos"

As for you, please go back to your shanty
 
I am sure if someone offer you a free, anything you might consider. If there were zero string attached.
You don't know me at all.

Why do you think someone like myself who didn't buy a Jackpot cue is involved in the discussion? It's about the lack of integrity.

Don't tell me about refunds. Where was the admission of flat out lies? You don't get off in my book by giving back the money you stole with no mention of how stealing was a bad thing to begin with.

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I am compelled to ask of anyone with personal knowledge, is Coco truly as intellectually deficient as it appears from his communications on AZB? Is he to be pitied for lack of ability or viewed with disdain for lack of discipline, etc. Would we not all be justified if we discounted, or even completely disregarded, Coco's arguments, and/or positions, because of the manner in which he communicates?

Coco had repeatedly burdened all of us through his inefficient manner of communication? Ultimately, is it a matter of "Coco can't" or "Coco won't". If it is inability, then I must apologize, and earnestly offer any and all assistance I can provide. It is truly a malignant handicap to want so fervently to communicate and lack the ability to do so, and the frequency of Coco's posts leaves no doubt as to the magnitude of his desire. On the other hand, if Coco can effectively communicate but simply refuses, then I am uncertain as to my proper response.

However, in the first instance, it is imperative that we know the nature of the cause.
 
I am compelled to ask of anyone with personal knowledge, is Coco truly as intellectually deficient as it appears from his communications on AZB? Is he to be pitied for lack of ability or viewed with disdain for lack of discipline, etc. Would we not all be justified if we discounted, or even completely disregarded, Coco's arguments, and/or positions, because of the manner in which he communicates?

Coco had repeatedly burdened all of us through his inefficient manner of communication? Ultimately, is it a matter of "Coco can't" or "Coco won't". If it is inability, then I must apologize, and earnestly offer any and all assistance I can provide. It is truly a malignant handicap to want so fervently to communicate and lack the ability to do so, and the frequency of Coco's posts leaves no doubt as to the magnitude of his desire. On the other hand, if Coco can effectively communicate but simply refuses, then I am uncertain as to my proper response.

However, in the first instance, it is imperative that we know the nature of the cause.
I seriously think he's developing dementia due to mini-strokes during sleep.
One study done at Leisure World here concluded dementia is mainly caused by that.
He should consult with a specialist.
His reading comprehension and coherence in writing show dementia imo.
 
Not so sure here. His continual defense of Dean in this deal shows me he knows what he's doing. He does have a bad habit on going off on some pretty goofy tangents from time to time. Hey, he's like 80 so who knows.
 
I seriously think he's developing dementia due to mini-strokes during sleep.
One study done at Leisure World here concluded dementia is mainly caused by that.
He should consult with a specialist.
His reading comprehension and coherence in writing show dementia imo.
Coco sometimes posts with few mistakes and a fairly intelligent story line,but that's rare.
I know he is pretty old like 80 or so and may have some mental difficulty at times.
Maybe drifting in and out.
But I always read his posts.
 
You don't know me at all.

Why do you think someone like myself who didn't buy a Jackpot cue is involved in the discussion? It's about the lack of integrity.

Don't tell me about refunds. Where was the admission of flat out lies? You don't get off in my book by giving back the money you stole with no mention of how stealing was a bad thing to begin with.

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Will if I was unhappy buyer, got full refund, I personally would move on, and not do business with that person again.

I had people while I was in biz tell me they paid fast, one I recall was PR Agency, who client was big beer company. Account executive said when asked “we pay in 15 days”.

Finally got paid after over 180 days, and many phone calls.

They called me to work for them again, I politely said I was not interested, because they payed slow.

Point was I was done with them, had they paid as promised I would have worked for them again.
 
I am compelled to ask of anyone with personal knowledge, is Coco truly as intellectually deficient as it appears from his communications on AZB? Is he to be pitied for lack of ability or viewed with disdain for lack of discipline, etc. Would we not all be justified if we discounted, or even completely disregarded, Coco's arguments, and/or positions, because of the manner in which he communicates?

Coco had repeatedly burdened all of us through his inefficient manner of communication? Ultimately, is it a matter of "Coco can't" or "Coco won't". If it is inability, then I must apologize, and earnestly offer any and all assistance I can provide. It is truly a malignant handicap to want so fervently to communicate and lack the ability to do so, and the frequency of Coco's posts leaves no doubt as to the magnitude of his desire. On the other hand, if Coco can effectively communicate but simply refuses, then I am uncertain as to my proper response.

However, in the first instance, it is imperative that we know the nature of the cause.
What's up with all those big, fancy words? They even allowed on a pool forum?
 
I am compelled to ask of anyone with personal knowledge, is Coco truly as intellectually deficient as it appears from his communications on AZB? Is he to be pitied for lack of ability or viewed with disdain for lack of discipline, etc. Would we not all be justified if we discounted, or even completely disregarded, Coco's arguments, and/or positions, because of the manner in which he communicates?

Coco had repeatedly burdened all of us through his inefficient manner of communication? Ultimately, is it a matter of "Coco can't" or "Coco won't". If it is inability, then I must apologize, and earnestly offer any and all assistance I can provide. It is truly a malignant handicap to want so fervently to communicate and lack the ability to do so, and the frequency of Coco's posts leaves no doubt as to the magnitude of his desire. On the other hand, if Coco can effectively communicate but simply refuses, then I am uncertain as to my proper response.

However, in the first instance, it is imperative that we know the nature of the cause.

the skill with which he communicates can very in a short time frame, as if he has help which leads me to believe that he's on his own most of the time resulting in what you see is what it is

"American" isn't my first language, however, i had the good fortune to be forced to learn at young age.....i still invert verbs and nouns which i think is a habit i'll never break. COCO is probably attempting to learn "American" much later in life which is VERY difficult, as was the case with my Grandparents and my Mothers siblings.

As a result i have compassion for his struggles, however i do lose patience because it can be difficult understanding his point of view and/or opinion....i try to internalize my angst
 
So it is ok to scam as long as you are willing to give a refund if you get busted, right? Like the guy in the video below, as long as you are willing to put everything back to the way it was if you get caught then it is ok to act in whatever immoral ways you feel like, right?

Like you said, GTF out of here with your silly BS. You are just trying to defend what is indefensible since he is your friend but your friend tried to scam and you don't look much better trying to defend it.

Hmn….look at the number of prominent forum members that agreed with my post with Likes
whereas you’ve garnished a few of the riff-raff members. And if defending a friend against the
attacks still being levied against him when he’s not even present, if refuting the malice hurled
at Dean by so many buttholes that never bought anything from Dean and genuinely have no skin
in this game portrays me poorly, so be it. As far as I’m concerned, you are as significant to me as
much as a cuticle on my pinky finger. And the mere fact that people keep kicking Dean to this day
confirms these same folks are the reason why this website has diminished to what it’s turned into.
 
Bear in mind that I like Dean, only knowing him from here. What some won't admit is that when he came on here and tried to con any of us, he wronged all of us. Likewise when he compounded his lies. He crapped on our living room carpet, then smeared it in. Then he offered to cover it if some needed their shoes cleaned.

Many on here like, admire, and respect a member that did far more harm in any one week for years than Dean did in his life. He crapped on the carpet here a handful of times. Each time he left, let things cool off, and returned to build a persona and sin again. A pole cat may put on a fancy fur coat but that doesn't change his stripes and he will out himself once again for what he is after he builds up a new fan club. I don't really care but it does seem damned hypocritical when some of the same ones fawn on someone truly evil and condemn Dean. Dean was guilty of an error in judgment and in digging in deeper when he should have just dropped the whole mess and cut his losses. Those cues could have been sold for what they were for a modest profit and Dean's life would have went on. As it is, some can't let go of what he did. That is partially because of what he did, more because of how poorly he managed the fallout.

Not talking abut league and recreational players but those that have been in the life are pretty much all guilty of pool room morality. We are friendly, maybe even friends, with people who we don't want any association with outside a poolroom or bar. I have probably known dozens of people who lived on the edge over the years. Not big time crooks but guys that were always out to make a buck even if the means weren't quite honest. A few tripped over into big time crime and went away never to be seen again. Many more got their fingers singed now and then and flew low for awhile only to be back to their old ways once things cooled down. Unless they gored my ox or did something truly obnoxious I might be friendly with them for years, having brief conversations when we met. I didn't mistake them for friends, they had tried to get over on me in the past and would again in the future but they could be quite likeable. That was one of their reasons for success. Too, they soon learned that they couldn't con me into a bad deal and that I wouldn't play dice or cards. They also learned I couldn't get drunk enough to be beaten on a pool table by these all around petty crooks and hustlers that weren't pool specialists.

I feel like these that in kinder moments we call scallywags or similar names add color to the landscape and are not without value. I also think that Dean has paid quite heavily for mistakes made not for profit but to help a friend that was in a cash bind due to health issues according to my understanding. It would stretch things beyond the breaking point to call Dean a saint. Somehow I don't see him as a major sinner that has more to atone for than the majority of us on here if truth be known. I haven't lived a perfect life and if I had it all to do over again I have to admit I would do most of it! I don't know if I am going to heaven or hell but no worries if I go to heaven and if I go to hell I am going to be too busy shaking hands with old "Buddies" to worry about it either. I am sure that some of them will be surprised to be there!

Hu
As usual, Hu is dead on.

Maybe the rest (some, many, most) of you may not have not had the same experience I have, but the poolrooms I frequented, or adopted, were very much my living rooms. This forum shares many of the same attributes. I have often observed to myself that there is a fundamental difference between poolrooms and forums, and the decorum or lack, owing to one being "virtual" and the other real. Much of the more egregious conduct found in this forum would not have occurred in the first place or would have been quickly extinguished in a real world pool room. In my old real rooms, bad behavior and bad attitudes were very often followed by real consequences -- jawing only went on so far or long. In this incomplete virtual world, there is so much we are forced to abide due to the absence of immediate physical access.

We all sin. If we were "better" folks, we would have hung out in church and would now be posting in a Bible Study forum. But we are what we are, with shared experiences and lessons. One lesson Dean missed, or rejected, was the necessity of acceptance/acknowledgment of fault/responsibility and true expression of repentance. In most disputes, people are not seeking compensation alone -- they want, or need, to hear: "I was wrong . . . I am sorry." Words more are more valuable than gold in many situations. The same holds true where someone has actively defended a third party who is ultimately proven to have been in the wrong: "Dean was wrong . . . I was wrong . . . I am sorry that . . .". I have not followed each and every step in the Jackpot Travail, but I would guess that, if such words had ever been offered, or timely offered, we would not be engaged in the instant exercise.

My grandfather was often heard to say, "you can try to sell me a bowl of shit, just don't try to tell me it is ice cream." I have often pondered his exact, deepest, meaning without a satisfactory conclusion, but I somehow sense that he provides a perfectly appropriate assessment of Dean's situation.
 
As usual, Hu is dead on.

Maybe the rest (some, many, most) of you may not have not had the same experience I have, but the poolrooms I frequented, or adopted, were very much my living rooms. This forum shares many of the same attributes. I have often observed to myself that there is a fundamental difference between poolrooms and forums, and the decorum or lack, owing to one being "virtual" and the other real. Much of the more egregious conduct found in this forum would not have occurred in the first place or would have been quickly extinguished in a real world pool room. In my old real rooms, bad behavior and bad attitudes were very often followed by real consequences -- jawing only went on so far or long. In this incomplete virtual world, there is so much we are forced to abide due to the absence of immediate physical access.

We all sin. If we were "better" folks, we would have hung out in church and would now be posting in a Bible Study forum. But we are what we are, with shared experiences and lessons. One lesson Dean missed, or rejected, was the necessity of acceptance/acknowledgment of fault/responsibility and true expression of repentance. In most disputes, people are not seeking compensation alone -- they want, or need, to hear: "I was wrong . . . I am sorry." Words more are more valuable than gold in many situations. The same holds true where someone has actively defended a third party who is ultimately proven to have been in the wrong: "Dean was wrong . . . I was wrong . . . I am sorry that . . .". I have not followed each and every step in the Jackpot Travail, but I would guess that, if such words had ever been offered, or timely offered, we would not be engaged in the instant exercise.

My grandfather was often heard to say, "you can try to sell me a bowl of shit, just don't try to tell me it is ice cream." I have often pondered his exact, deepest, meaning without a satisfactory conclusion, but I somehow sense that he provides a perfectly appropriate assessment of Dean's situation.
Dean was a product of the old-school Dallas 'halls that guys like Jack and Alfie Taylor, B. Stoud and others hung out in. He's been a gambler/scuffler/chiseler his whole adult life. The J'pot fiasco was just another move in his book. Well, it backfired and he's gone. I could not care less.
 
I asked polite question, your the nasty one.

Answer up if you feel like it, if not be polite to everyone.

Being polite does not hurt.😁
Coco maybe this will make things a little easier to understand. Dean PAID for that cue not to be mentioned publicly. So what does it tell you that not only did Dean rip people off, but he paid to silence people who had poorly constructed cues?
 
Coco maybe this will make things a little easier to understand. Dean PAID for that cue not to be mentioned publicly. So what does it tell you that not only did Dean rip people off, but he paid to silence people who had poorly constructed cues?


So the story goes? Hawaii Eye posted photo of his (2) Jackpots, the photo looked like two Marry Widows. Nothing jump out of his photo below that says defect.

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the skill with which he communicates can very in a short time frame, as if he has help which leads me to believe that he's on his own most of the time resulting in what you see is what it is

"American" isn't my first language, however, i had the good fortune to be forced to learn at young age.....i still invert verbs and nouns which i think is a habit i'll never break. COCO is probably attempting to learn "American" much later in life which is VERY difficult, as was the case with my Grandparents and my Mothers siblings.

As a result i have compassion for his struggles, however i do lose patience because it can be difficult understanding his point of view and/or opinion....i try to internalize my angst
This is why I asked. I have all the sympathy and respect in the world for someone who takes on a second language. I used to have to remind my boys that they were ridiculing a person who was attempting a foreign language and ask them how they were progressing with their's -- they got it.

I have always loved reading and writing and was fortunate to have attended a Catholic elementary school with devoted nuns to teach me. Very, very fortunate. Monthly tuition was $25.00 for one, or $35.00 for two or more (really). I do not think that such an education is available any longer.
 
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So the story goes? Hawaii Eye posted photo of his (2) Jackpots, the photo looked like two Marry Widows. Nothing jump out of his photos saying defect.
That's NOT the point you fool. What part of this do you NOT get?? One LAST time so follow: Dean had Schmelke make some cues to sell to help out J.Potter. J.Potter had nothing to do with the cues being built. Dean took a 200-250 cue and used J.Potter's name to boost the price to $600. Pure scam. Again, do you not get it by now?? Probably not. Back to Ignore you go. The fun is over.
 
Hmn….look at the number of prominent forum members that agreed with my post with Likes
whereas you’ve garnished a few of the riff-raff members. And if defending a friend against the
attacks still being levied against him when he’s not even present, if refuting the malice hurled
at Dean by so many buttholes that never bought anything from Dean and genuinely have no skin
in this game portrays me poorly, so be it. As far as I’m concerned, you are as significant to me as
much as a cuticle on my pinky finger. And the mere fact that people keep kicking Dean to this day
confirms these same folks are the reason why this website has diminished to what it’s turned into.

Who specifically is the riff-raff? The guy who scammed people, or a scammer's detractors?
 
This is why I asked. I have all the sympathy and respect in the world for someone who takes on a second language. I used to have to remind my boys that they were ridiculing a person who was attempting a foreign language and ask them how they were progressing with their's -- they got it.

I have always loved reading and writing and was fortunate to attend a Catholic elementary school with devoted nuns to teach me. Very, very fortunate. Monthly tuition was $25.00 for one, or $35.00 for two or more (really). I do not think that such an education is available any longer.

the economy in this area is depressed, that said, monthly tuition begins at apprx $400 per mo in private schools which is out of reach for the vast majority of our population
 
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