"Artificially high prices" ??????
Are you high?? Cue prices have never been lower than they are right now.
High quality custom cues can be bought for pennies of their original prices.
Of course some cues maintain their value, but those are very few.
Deleting Selling Price after Sale
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"Artificially high prices" ??????
Are you high?? Cue prices have never been lower than they are right now.
High quality custom cues can be bought for pennies of their original prices.
Of course some cues maintain their value, but those are very few.
i think that asking prices should remain
most people would realize an asking price is usually not a selling price but a ball park for negotiations
the seller had no problem posting an asking price to begin with so why not leave the info available???
most people would realize an asking price is usually not a selling price but a ball park for negotiations
the seller had no problem posting an asking price to begin with so why not leave the info available???
Wouldn't it mostly be for people who may resell the cue?
Say I bought a cue for $1,000 one year ago and want to ask $2,000 for it today. If a buyer can look at the post that I bought it in last year, they could use that as a sticking point to say that the cue is not worth $2,000.
I personally would prefer to see prices remain though. The seller could leave the price and just add "SOLD" after it. It is cool to see the fluctuations in the market. Can't get a sense of what it was like a few years ago because I wasn't checking this site on a daily basis then.
Even now, I will sometimes miss a thread with a nice used cue by a cue maker I'm interested in and it had already been sold. No way to tell what the asking price was. I doubt that the seller would appreciate me sending a PM to find out just for my chits and giggles.
Say I bought a cue for $1,000 one year ago and want to ask $2,000 for it today. If a buyer can look at the post that I bought it in last year, they could use that as a sticking point to say that the cue is not worth $2,000.
I personally would prefer to see prices remain though. The seller could leave the price and just add "SOLD" after it. It is cool to see the fluctuations in the market. Can't get a sense of what it was like a few years ago because I wasn't checking this site on a daily basis then.
Even now, I will sometimes miss a thread with a nice used cue by a cue maker I'm interested in and it had already been sold. No way to tell what the asking price was. I doubt that the seller would appreciate me sending a PM to find out just for my chits and giggles.
I have been off the forum for a while and have seen the price of cues actually go up for many makers over the past year.
New cue makers are a prime example, look at a few here on AZ....what they were asking for cues for a year or two ago and what they are asking for now (and there waiting lists)....
As for asking prices being left in threads, no harm there. I believe selling prices however are between the two people making the deal. This is for many reasons, some already stated in this thread. One other is your flexability as a seller, some people go through many cues, make money, lose money, break even, allow a partial trade...whatever the flavor that day may be and your what you may be planning to do with the proceeds of the sale.
....the deal is between the two people....if a dealer/maker decides to move a cue in inventory for less than the asking/going rate does that mean everyone should know.......not in my book.....especially when there is no "book" (Blue book or whatever book) to refer to on many cues for sale on the forum. Two factors, supply and demand and what your willing to pay dictate what a cue will sell for, it's true value to the buyer.
I think this may belong in the Main Forum.....there is nothing for sale here....
New cue makers are a prime example, look at a few here on AZ....what they were asking for cues for a year or two ago and what they are asking for now (and there waiting lists)....
As for asking prices being left in threads, no harm there. I believe selling prices however are between the two people making the deal. This is for many reasons, some already stated in this thread. One other is your flexability as a seller, some people go through many cues, make money, lose money, break even, allow a partial trade...whatever the flavor that day may be and your what you may be planning to do with the proceeds of the sale.
....the deal is between the two people....if a dealer/maker decides to move a cue in inventory for less than the asking/going rate does that mean everyone should know.......not in my book.....especially when there is no "book" (Blue book or whatever book) to refer to on many cues for sale on the forum. Two factors, supply and demand and what your willing to pay dictate what a cue will sell for, it's true value to the buyer.
I think this may belong in the Main Forum.....there is nothing for sale here....
the listing price should be left up. the final selling price isnt anyone's business. but since this is a free forum for the sellers, and they rely on the buyers looking and keeping their interest in the forum, the listing price shouldnt be removed.
it benefits the sellers also as then the buyers learn about what things are worth and can make informed decisons.
it benefits the sellers also as then the buyers learn about what things are worth and can make informed decisons.
No, I meant, "why do they delete the asking price?" I can understand leaving up info and pics about sold cues. So just add "SOLD" to the listing. Why do these dealer sites delete the asking price? Many of the same reasons as stated in this thread I guess.
Fatz
I asked this question because I'd like to see what things are worth. But without knowing the final selling price, maybe it's pretty much pointless. There seems to be a consensus that the final selling price is personal info. So now the question is, does knowing the initial asking price actually help people determine the value of cues? And then the next question is, would it actually be possible to effect a change in the standard operating procedure around here?
Fatz
I think the asking price is a good barometer. My guess is that not too often a cue will sell over the asking price.
Doubt that things will change as far as how things are done though.
I delete prices and pics of every item (or at least try to) I sell or trade out of respect for the buyer or person I traded with. Once a deal is done, it's no one's business other than the parties involved as to what was bought/sold/traded or the prices attached to the items.
That's just my preference...I dont need to know what someone bought or sold an item for, all I need to know is what it's worth to me.
That's just my preference...I dont need to know what someone bought or sold an item for, all I need to know is what it's worth to me.
The big difference between cars and cues is they are more readily available. BUT even they are removed once they are sold. There is NO advantage to the seller to leave the price on the vehicle once it is gone. Besides you can go to the KBB doe a 2003 camry. But what if you have a 1966 Impala SS with a 396? Prices aren't readily available.. you may choose to get an appraisal.
Anyone selling anything should list an asking price, which is really just a place to start negotiations. Nothing is more irritating than having a seller not know what he wants to sell his cue for. BUT if his cue is so unique, such as a high end Bushka, should he be able to get a "free" appraisal? I do not believe he should.
Sorry if you think I tried to make you look like a nit, that wasn't the intent. But there are multiple ways to approach this scenario.
Same here...we had a thread about this a LONG time ago. The consenus of opinion way back then was that the price of an item was a private matter between the buyer and seller. Granted, cues were bringing much higher prices back then, but I still do it that way. It is up to the buyer as to whether or not he reveals the price (or transaction, since most deals involve trades of some kind).
Joe
buyer safety
If someone gets a good deal they usually don't pass the savings on to others. For the buyers. As a seller I don't think they want someone to see what the last guy paid if he got a good deal.
If someone gets a good deal they usually don't pass the savings on to others. For the buyers. As a seller I don't think they want someone to see what the last guy paid if he got a good deal.
I would like to see the pictures remain posted the price I don't care as it is sold and if it was really cheap I would be kicking myself in the ass for not getting it! Why would you care what a sold cue sold for? It must have been too cheap or it would still be for sale...LOL
Guys, we are talking about the listed asking price, not the price paid for the cue. I've yet to see even one listing that EVER disclosed the final sales price. No one is disputing that is a private matter so you're just agreeing with everyone. :grin:
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TheThaiger
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Sorry, but I think the price of cues is bonkers, no matter what price they were in the past.
Oh, yea. I have had guy's PM/email me asking what did I sell this or that cue to Mr. John Doe for. First thing that comes to my mind, is they are complitating buying the same cue from the new owner but want his price information as a haggling tool. Rest assured, I kindly tell them that is a private matter and not up for disclosure. Most get the point and move on. Others have to be told in a different way before they get it.....