.Dennis Hatch V. Earl Strickland 5x10?..I think Dennis could handle Earl just fine..

the77club said:
I am surprised there are not more people that think Dennis can win this game.
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Don't worry about it - AZ's prediction skills are not quite accurate these days.

I think that there are lots of players who could hang with Earl on that table. What happened to Shane won't necessarily happen to another world beater.

Each match would be it's own dynamic and not related to any other match.
 
Im not one to usually post too much, but all these post-match Shane/Earl threads have gotten too me.
Did anyone see the gear Earl reached on THAT table?
Granted, it wasnt the entire three days but for long stretches he was UNBEATABLE. PERIOD. any table. A shot dead center of the pocket is dead center and perfect position is perfect.
Im beginning to feel, and let me apologize in advance, that many here dont know as much about pool as they thought, or are a buncha Shane d-riders. Or Earl haters.
idk
 
I agree that earl played excellent but don't forget that Shane didn't hit them like he use to do. Don't know about Hatch, it could be closer than you think but I'm pretty sure Alex would beat him. Also the typical "Earl routine" would not have anny impact on their game and it would only work against him. Sure looking forward to the Earl/Alex game.
 
I think Hatch might get into the 70s..... If it were to come off I am with Cuesmith on this.... You've got ACTION!
 
Salty said:
I agree that earl played excellent but don't forget that Shane didn't hit them like he use to do. Don't know about Hatch, it could be closer than you think but I'm pretty sure Alex would beat him. Also the typical "Earl routine" would not have anny impact on their game and it would only work against him. Sure looking forward to the Earl/Alex game.
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Theres a reason Shane didnt hit them like youre used to seeing him hit it. Actually many reasons.
Heres one.
It wasnt a nine footer.
 
I don't think any of the other Americans are going to like it against Earl on this table. To beat him, you are probably going to have to bring out the top tier Filipinos or Taiwanese players and get them a few hard weeks of practice time on a 10 footer.
 
Masayoshi said:
I don't think any of the other Americans are going to like it against Earl on this table. To beat him, you are probably going to have to bring out the top tier Filipinos or Taiwanese players and get them a few hard weeks of practice time on a 10 footer.
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Sorry to hijack the thread, Japan stuff here, where are you now, Masayoshi? I'm guessing you relocated to Tokyo?
MULLY
 
Experience is required on ten footers and I think it's mainly because the pros shoot using "shot pictures". The view they see when they are lined up correctly for a shot is a "picture" that they have seen countless times and it's memorized as being the correct shot picture.

The ten footer makes all shot pictures look different. That is my humble opinion.
 
mullyman said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, Japan stuff here, where are you now, Masayoshi? I'm guessing you relocated to Tokyo?
MULLY
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Nope, still in Miyagi. Doing okay. My city is more inland than the Tsunami hit areas. We have plenty of food too. Probably better off here than Tokyo.
 
What??

8ball said:
I think most of the top Phillipinos would beat Earl on the 10ft table.
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First you say Hatch would BBQ Earl on a 10 footer, now MOST of the top Filipinos? I don't know how well the top Filipino players could move the cue ball around with those tight pockets, but saying "MOST" could is ridiculous.
 
I'm not sure anyone's really qualified to say for sure who beats who on the 10 foot table. It's a different game. Or at least different enough that you can't say someone "barbecues" someone or this guy has "no chance". People are basing their judgments on seing Dennis or their favorite pinoy play for hours on a 9 footer. They have no experience sweating these guys on a different table. And no, alex playing an even MORE different game (snooker) doesn't count either. The difference between 9 foot and 10 foot can be the difference between 100-63 vs 83-100.

If I had to predict, I'd try to watch which players rely on getting the right angle and shooting at a good medium pace vs. excessive spinners and guys who blast their way out of trouble. It's not really about accuracy, there isn't some race of top pros who can shoot into a 3 inch pocket while other top pros are only able to handle four. They all have similar aiming ability. In fact I can't help but laugh at guys who talk about how one pro is really "accurate" compared to other pros. Like they carefully tracked the stats necessary to judge that Pro A makes 96.96% of his shots, but pro B is only 95.12%. Everyone at that level makes almost everything.

A lot of the missed shots were no further away than shots on a 9 footer. But the player had to hit the CB so much harder to move it 15 feet across the table. So it's more about planning than aim. The smart player leaves enough angle so he can shoot the OB in at a regular pace vs. too straight and being forced to crush it.
 
I think when you take into consideration the gear a player is capable of hitting, again, the reach (seems huge to me), the power of their stroke, and their table presence and the amount of "fight in the dog" I like Dennis' chances..
Yes, Earl played phenomenal. I watched it all and enjoyed it. It was amazing to watch. But I gotta see him in the box again for me to say nobody could beat him at this game. And I just got a feeling that Dennis could come with it.
 
Earl is the undisputed champion on the 5x10,until proven other wise!we can say this one can win,this one has no chance,btw if earl does play anybody he will be the betting favorite,unlike the first time.
 
Luxury said:
Experience is required on ten footers and I think it's mainly because the pros shoot using "shot pictures". The view they see when they are lined up correctly for a shot is a "picture" that they have seen countless times and it's memorized as being the correct shot picture.

The ten footer makes all shot pictures look different. That is my humble opinion.
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I think you're right--perceptual memory is a very big part of the pro game, and also muscle memory from having played enough on a 10 footer. It was obvious that Shane was not comfortable on that table. He didn't know how to run out because he just didn't have the muscle memory and Earl did.

I can't say whether there are other players who would be a favorite against Earl on the 10 footer (Bustamante, Alcano, Corteza, and Alex definitely come to mind), but I'm pretty sure no one would be a favorite to barbecue him. If he plays like he did against Shane he doesn't have to lose to anyone.
 
CreeDo said:
I'm not sure anyone's really qualified to say for sure who beats who on the 10 foot table. It's a different game. Or at least different enough that you can't say someone "barbecues" someone or this guy has "no chance". People are basing their judgments on seing Dennis or their favorite pinoy play for hours on a 9 footer. They have no experience sweating these guys on a different table. And no, alex playing an even MORE different game (snooker) doesn't count either. The difference between 9 foot and 10 foot can be the difference between 100-63 vs 83-100.

If I had to predict, I'd try to watch which players rely on getting the right angle and shooting at a good medium pace vs. excessive spinners and guys who blast their way out of trouble. It's not really about accuracy, there isn't some race of top pros who can shoot into a 3 inch pocket while other top pros are only able to handle four. They all have similar aiming ability. In fact I can't help but laugh at guys who talk about how one pro is really "accurate" compared to other pros. Like they carefully tracked the stats necessary to judge that Pro A makes 96.96% of his shots, but pro B is only 95.12%. Everyone at that level makes almost everything.

A lot of the missed shots were no further away than shots on a 9 footer. But the player had to hit the CB so much harder to move it 15 feet across the table. So it's more about planning than aim. The smart player leaves enough angle so he can shoot the OB in at a regular pace vs. too straight and being forced to crush it.
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Well said and very true!:)
 
JAM said:
Dennis and Earl have quite a bit in common when it comes to emotional pool.

I don't think Dennis, though, has the experience on the 10-footer that Earl does. Dennis does, however, have the capability to shoot shots that others wouldn't even attempt and do so successfully.

As long as Team Dennis is happy, then Dennis will shoot phenomenally well. :)
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I couldn't have put it better......when Dennis is on he's almost unbeatable, but tackling Earl on a 10' table may be a tall mountain to climb!

James
 
Everybody is talking about all of the experience Earl has on a 10 footer, but how often does he really play on it? I mean, he doesn't have one at his house or pool room at which he regularly practices, correct? So, perhaps he just adjusted more readily to the conditions
 
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