A practice stroke at the table when it's your shot would presumably be part of your match. I'm assuming the rule is about actually hitting balls, not just sliding the cue through your fingers.
Dennis Orcollo Fouled for practicing a Jump shot on next table
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A practice stroke at the table when it's your shot would presumably be part of your match. I'm assuming the rule is about actually hitting balls, not just sliding the cue through your fingers.
Sheesh.. Ken is the only one that was mic'd. He said many times that John immediately called it.
ok.. you are right
If Dennis knew about this rule, do you really believe he'll risk losing the game or possibly the match by doing a practice shot? He was ignorant of the rules, it happens. Even the best golfer in the world is guilty of this. Most of you anti-Dennis are trying to put him in a bad light, heck, even his opponent doesn't know about this particular rule...
That SHOULD be a foul doing something that stupid.If you leave me a tough bank, can
I go and practice it on the table next to me first?Just a dopey thing to do and rightfully deserved it.
He wasn't at his table. He was at the table beside his table.
The sequence was like this, per the photo:
Dennis pushes out to a long shot on the one ball in the near corner.
Wu passes the shot back and Dennis misses.
Wu makes the one ball and gets on the blue ball, the 2-ball on the rail. It must lay funny because Wu misses the shot, but leaves Dennis a jump shot behind the lime ball, the 6-ball.
Dennis gets his jump cue off the table behind him and proceeds to jack up and spear at the purple 4-ball on the adjacent table.
You hear Kenny immediately, "yes that's a foul," and John comes right into the screen. Presumably John who has been watching the entire match and is a seasoned national referee called it immediately as well. I have no doubt.
Kenny goes on to explain that this is a foul due to an illegal practice shot.
Dennis pushes out to a long shot on the one ball in the near corner.
Wu passes the shot back and Dennis misses.
Wu makes the one ball and gets on the blue ball, the 2-ball on the rail. It must lay funny because Wu misses the shot, but leaves Dennis a jump shot behind the lime ball, the 6-ball.
Dennis gets his jump cue off the table behind him and proceeds to jack up and spear at the purple 4-ball on the adjacent table.
You hear Kenny immediately, "yes that's a foul," and John comes right into the screen. Presumably John who has been watching the entire match and is a seasoned national referee called it immediately as well. I have no doubt.
Kenny goes on to explain that this is a foul due to an illegal practice shot.
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Ok Thats what I was figuring. At times I will stroke beside a ball trying to get a feel for how hard to hit it to get the cue ball to end up in a certain location... usually thinner cuts down a rial sending the Cb across and back a time or two. The wording about stroking not hitting or shooting seemed odd.
Here's another write up on it. And yes, same photographer....
http://www.nycgrind.com/the-latest/...tch-open-10-ball-orcollo-corteza-paired-semi/
http://www.nycgrind.com/the-latest/...tch-open-10-ball-orcollo-corteza-paired-semi/
Anyone can be a perfect gentlemen when they are winning, its how people act when losing that means the most!
Yeah, I'd always thought it was just so your movement and noise wouldn't mess with the other player.
But thinking about it, what if he plays a safe and you can see where the cue ball's gonna roll to.
You quickly place your cue ball at the same spot on the next table and take a free practice kick.
It's like getting 2 tries at the kick, which isn't fair to the opponent. So for a lot of reasons,
the practice ban makes sense. Dennis won't make that mistake again.
As you said people phone in infractions in golf all the time and the tournament officials actually review and make a judgement on each call and they play for millions of dollars.
I was answering another post about whether taking a practice stroke at your table would be a foul. I know Dennis wasn't at his table, I was watching it when it happened.
Really?dennis really have to cheat to win a match?is that how bad dennis is or that's how much you hate him.don't tell me sometimes your ignorance leads you to a mistake.sometimes you are arguing about something stupid but truth is you don't know what shite you talking about.i don't think dennis would do that if he encountered that before.....and please,to some people out there whose tryng to pretend they know al the shite about rules stop talking non sense.one mistake should not wipe out what he has done in the pool history.
Just to be clear on this subject as this forum has a way of making odd falsehoods... there was a tournament director presiding over the match that was seen throughout the match stream. He called the foul immedtiatelly.
I think viewers got the impression that Ken Shuman called the foul because he was the only person we could hear. What you hear is Ken saying it's a foul just like anyone (especially a National referee) who knows the rules would say. He was mic'd after all. Then you hear him say, yes that's a foul. He was acknowledging John calling it a foul. He doesn't need to tell a veteran referee that was presiding over the match that it was a foul.
Not only is this pretty logical, but Ken said that's what happened. No need for anyone to make it something that it wasn't. We just happen to only hear one guy talking.
CreeDo has a point. There is another dimension also. We are probably all familiar with the phenomenon of trying a difficult shot and missing, in either golf or pool, and then repeating the shot and hitting it exactly right. That second try is powerful.
Yup ... ASS-U-ME
No practice during a match.
The rule is not intended just for sharking. Practice time is before and between matches, not during. It's a common rule in leagues and tournaments, though not always enforced.
The OB referred to here is "object ball".
Dennis has been playing in the US and all over the world for a while now. He knows the rules, but likes to bend them a bit, I'm afraid.
The rule is not intended just for sharking. Practice time is before and between matches, not during. It's a common rule in leagues and tournaments, though not always enforced.
The OB referred to here is "object ball".
Dennis has been playing in the US and all over the world for a while now. He knows the rules, but likes to bend them a bit, I'm afraid.