Projections based on fear.
If you want to really know, come to npr and we can discuss some of that there. This is about Dennis' plight.
I've made my case here.
Jeff Livingston
Dennis Orcullo banned from USA for five years
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Projections based on fear.
If you want to really know, come to npr and we can discuss some of that there. This is about Dennis' plight.
I've made my case here.
Jeff Livingston
Apologies, Jay. What's the straight dope?
Very disrespectful and also INCORRECT!
A group of us has been formed to assist Dennis in this situation. We are in the process of chosing an attorney to represent him now.
Who has been talking about lawful vs legal and why that distinction is vital to justice?
Me, not anyone else here.
Jeff Livingston
on a philosophical level you make some good points, but history has shown the need for laws that infringe on personal freedoms. someone can drive drunk on that same road rexus mentioned and do no harm as well, yet most people agree that it would be good if the police stopped him before the road turns into a populated area.
You were told wrong and are now repeating it here. I've seen the papers from the Dept. of Homeland Security and that is NOT why he has been banned! Dennis was tracked for the last four years by HS and he spent over 75% of this time in this country (this is where he makes his living), and they will flag you if you stay here over 65% of the time. He would get a six month visa and then go home and return two to three months later. How many of you know this is a violation? I sure didn't. In the view of HS they now believe that Dennis was living here and not in the Philippines, which is totally untrue. He owns no property here and does not even have a bank account. He does own a home in the Philippines and has a family there. He has never tried to bring any of his family here as well.
He used regular tourist visas (six month limit) and was never warned about using them. What he needs is either a P-1 visa for participating in athletic events or even better a O-1 visa which is for Exceptional people in their country, that could be for exceptional athletes or entertainers. The latter is the better visa with fewer restrictions. With that visa he can stay as long as he likes, up to five years. We now believe that he can obtain such a visa (lot of paperwork and beauracracy to go through with accompanying costs), but the real problem is that Dennis will then have to go to the U.S. Embassy in Manila to get a waiver on his five year ban. He needs to prove to them that he is an exceptional athlete. This is the path we are on to bring him back here.
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You didn't tell anyone that he overstayed by a few days? And that he got fined? And that this was his second time? Really?
Guess they got it wrong too. I'd reveal my source but I have some tact and ethics. You on the other hand...
Technically he did "overstay" his visas, by using them to spend too much time in the U.S. I was told wrong at first and so were others. But we did set this straight in post #304 from two days ago. I referenced it again in my post #323. I guess some people missed that one as well.
Must have missed it. Post deleted.
Well Jay maybe you mughy start a go fund me, so the man fans can help with pricy legal expenses.
We have organized on FB - "Free Dennis!! He is America's pool." You can find more info there. We are not actively soliciting money from anyone. The core group of four or five have agreed to share the costs of Dennis' legal fees. If anyone wants to contribute they can.
The P-1 athlete visa is good for 5yrs with a 5yr extension. Looks like a lot less hassle than a plain tourist visa.
kanzzo
hobby player
I think the point was:
laws don't always make sense. Sometimes people, who made the laws just made mistakes, because they were just people. Its the right and duty of people in a democratic society to spot such unfair laws and try to change the legislation.
A law is not correct, right or fair, just because it's happens to be a law.
Fines for making a mistake can be fair or overly harsh. And knowing the situation of Denis lots of people think, the fine is too harsh.
CanadianGuy
Well-known member
Well I do not even look at Facebook but at least Dennis has friends willing to step up, and try & help.
Hope he appreciates those folks as legal help is not cheap.