i just got home today your right...its amazing how many players top ones at that got the casino bug bad and not a few.i was splitting with a buddy in a higher limit poker game so i did random check ins all hours...the furniture never changed...
Derby Action
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Players were flipping their brolls at the casino?
The circumstances are just what I wrote. The casino told us we couldn't do the Award, and we couldn't showcase the winners specifically after the ESPN-backed Grantland article was published. Last I knew, the benefits continue.
i haven't seen anything bad from them this time. not much sharking and they don't even crowd the table. maybe travelling with a skeleton crew?
pity filler and lunda didn't happen. don't know why it fell through but the history is kinda cool, last year filler beat lunda in the tournament, 3-0 under 15 minutes, and this year lunda beat filler in one of the best matches streamed. would be cool to see them duke it out in a race to 8
i take this back. reyito was pretty insufferable in a 1p match against shane winters. walking to stand in the line of sight all the time, contested an obvious foul in his usual belligerent flappy way (despite being shown the video) etc. i think he lost.
He will keep doing that until someone "corrects" him.
Great idea if he and his crew didn't infringe on every table around them, and the show moves from table to table. They know what they are doing.
i heard some of them were thrown out last year, which explains the skeleton crew. reyito is a lesser player without the posse.
good match now, wolford is playing lucas fv, 1p race to 7, 80k
Because everyone pushed to clean up pool, demonize gambling and promote league mentality. Diamond even stopped the Louie Robert's award.
There was still action. Mr Bohm and Dumbskis Dungeon played some big sets with Dominic's crew of 50 guys betting his side. Lot of 5 and 10k matches streamed with a few players. Sure there's alot of small action between players in the practice room and on the floor late night as well.
Too bad Diamond's plan to have 4 or 5 Derby style events died in Tunica MS, hosted in July 2012. In the right venues, these events would all be a hit.
Getting the space for NO MONEY
Derby must bring in a boatload of cash from gambling, food/drink and room sales.
Diamond probably gets a cut of at least room sales too.
Nothing nefarious, just how business is done.
Small by comparison...Super Billiards action has sucked for over the past 10 years. Might see 2 or 3 good high money matches over 4 days.
Practice room is full of guys playing king of the hill for $10 on a 8 plus player table.
I been playing the same guy 500 to 1000 a set for years at SBE because he's the only reliable action I can get. For me why am I leaving the comfort of home to stand around a place with no action and zero creature comforts? I'll grind it out, but the action needs to be there.
I think this Derby had a pretty good amount of action and alot was streamed. I went to Derby in 2012 and 2014...it's something I have to do again someday.
Practice room is full of guys playing king of the hill for $10 on a 8 plus player table.
I been playing the same guy 500 to 1000 a set for years at SBE because he's the only reliable action I can get. For me why am I leaving the comfort of home to stand around a place with no action and zero creature comforts? I'll grind it out, but the action needs to be there.
I think this Derby had a pretty good amount of action and alot was streamed. I went to Derby in 2012 and 2014...it's something I have to do again someday.
200k?Yep, I'm not losing my job over not getting paid. Make em post and if they refuse to pay the last set and grab the $$$ off the lightI'm not losing a 200k/job over it
Dam I was gonna bet W2s....
You just got me without the pool hall jelly.
I agree with the sentiment. Locally I've had situations that I let pass for the same reasons. People with nothing to lose get mighty brave.
Dunn is obnoxious and hyper as a jack rabbit. He is playing better and still trying to act like he is a B player. Carl will lose every dollar he has if he doesn't get serious weight, but now he's just a mark.
It died because Caesar's is terrible as a pool destination. DCC is held at a bad time of year, in a bad location, with bad food, and bad hotel room prices, AND you don't even get wifi for the price of that hotel room. People go anyway, because it is a spectacle, all the disadvantages aside. But it ain't a spectacle good enough to subject yourself to multiple times a year, at $3,000+ a pop...
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Diamond had to know that "ACTION" was DCC's middle name -- the damn thing was modeled on Johnston City. In the EW days, it damn near succeeded.
Whoever picked Tunica for expansion did not do their homework. Grady could have told them everything they needed to know from his experience in Gulfport in 2005. Poor Grady was so consumed with killing pool action and stopping simple games of gin that he never had time to enjoy a shrimp po-boy and a Barqs. All of the pool players went directly to the craps and 21 tables as soon as their matches ended. Mississippi's gaming commission is as tight as they come.
I would love to hear the history of how the side-action lived and died in Indiana. Tales of whoa owing to weather, food, distance between rooms and pool tables, inadequate transportation (both on-site and to the site), seating, food, etc., were enough to keep me at home. My conclusion from afar was that the deal was not to provide a good experience for players and spectators but rather to simply line the pockets of others. Frankly, I was surprised, because the usual casino model is to provide the mark with a good time while robbing him. But when you get it locked up like a vise, I guess anything goes. Nope, I never lost nothing in Indiana.
DCC soldiered on and faded all of these issues. It may continue on as a great pool tournament in the sanitized manner of today, but without the old hair on fire, after hours action, it can never be what it set out to be.
Whoever picked Tunica for expansion did not do their homework. Grady could have told them everything they needed to know from his experience in Gulfport in 2005. Poor Grady was so consumed with killing pool action and stopping simple games of gin that he never had time to enjoy a shrimp po-boy and a Barqs. All of the pool players went directly to the craps and 21 tables as soon as their matches ended. Mississippi's gaming commission is as tight as they come.
I would love to hear the history of how the side-action lived and died in Indiana. Tales of whoa owing to weather, food, distance between rooms and pool tables, inadequate transportation (both on-site and to the site), seating, food, etc., were enough to keep me at home. My conclusion from afar was that the deal was not to provide a good experience for players and spectators but rather to simply line the pockets of others. Frankly, I was surprised, because the usual casino model is to provide the mark with a good time while robbing him. But when you get it locked up like a vise, I guess anything goes. Nope, I never lost nothing in Indiana.
DCC soldiered on and faded all of these issues. It may continue on as a great pool tournament in the sanitized manner of today, but without the old hair on fire, after hours action, it can never be what it set out to be.
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Here's my conclusion, listening to ya'll.
I think the time of year is good, and to keep COSTS down, But venue needs to move NORTH.
Playing pool in the dead of winter is the best, like golf in June.
We need to find a place that can accommodate our demographic Wallet.
A thought..... to pause about.
Have it close to the Rock and Roll HOF.
Some can take planes, trains or busses to the venue.
This is an example, but compared to Na$h/Cashville TN, I think the players and the venue would improve allot.
No $50 meals, all the time.
Stay out of the Casinos.
They don't know about ''good will'' anymore.
FL has the same feeling to me.
I think the time of year is good, and to keep COSTS down, But venue needs to move NORTH.
Playing pool in the dead of winter is the best, like golf in June.
We need to find a place that can accommodate our demographic Wallet.
A thought..... to pause about.
Have it close to the Rock and Roll HOF.
Some can take planes, trains or busses to the venue.
This is an example, but compared to Na$h/Cashville TN, I think the players and the venue would improve allot.
No $50 meals, all the time.
Stay out of the Casinos.
They don't know about ''good will'' anymore.
FL has the same feeling to me.
There's enough people in each region, plus the pros and regular hustlers you see at every event. Tuninca was a bad location and in July was even worse.
New Orleans, Atlantic City even Vegas....
Just didn't pan out.