determine your skill level drill.

Okay, I just finished up the test. I was sorta frustrated by the balls leaving me with tough patterns on several racks. My scores for the 10 racks (9-ball, with the nine ball counting as one point)were: 2,7,3,3,9,3,3,4,9,and 9 for a total of 52. I dogged the eight ball in rack number two and should have gotten out (I should have used the mechanical bridge). For the OP's rating system I would be a B player, for Joe Tucker's system I would be a B+, and for Dr. Dave's system I would be a C+ player (I would have had 55 points using his system).

I have always considered myself to be a C player on a good day.

Maniac
 
Maniac said:
Okay, I just finished up the test. I was sorta frustrated by the balls leaving me with tough patterns on several racks. My scores for the 10 racks (9-ball, with the nine ball counting as one point)were: 2,7,3,3,9,3,3,4,9,and 9 for a total of 52. I dogged the eight ball in rack number two and should have gotten out (I should have used the mechanical bridge). For the OP's rating system I would be a B player, for Joe Tucker's system I would be a B+, and for Dr. Dave's system I would be a C+ player (I would have had 55 points using his system).

I have always considered myself to be a C player on a good day.

Maniac
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Most people get upset when the system underrates them.

You think this is gonna knock your action?:grin-square:
 
I miss alot said:
This is a nine ball drill that can give you feedback on your skill level based off your runout potential. I was told about this drill by a strong player named mr. Stevens out of va. The results are estimates I determined based off some different players skill levels participating in this drill.

Instructions.

Your going to do 10 racks of nine ball. Every ball you pocket is worth 1 point, including balls pocketed on the break.

After you break. Start with ball in hand. Run the balls out until you miss. Once you miss, the rack is over. If you pocket a ball and scratch then that ball does not count. Determine how many balls you pocketed and note that amount for that rack.

Continue that format for all 10 racks and add up your points for each rack to get your total combined score after all 10 racks.

Results. Are as follows and only give a general estimate on your skill level based off your runout power.

Out of a possible 90 points possible.

If you pocket 90 to 80 your a pro. 80 to 70 your a double a player. 70 to 55 your a single a player. 55 to 40 B Player. 40 to 30 C Player. 30 to 15 D player. 15 to 0 your easy money.

This is simply a fun drill to do and results are just estimates. Kinda like the ghost but with a twist.
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Olympic 9-ball possibly by Allen Hopkins. Except you get 10 for a runout, IIRC for the bonus.

Freddie <~~~ nothing new in this world, but still a good idea
 
tomnan24 said:
Are there any skill level estimators when you're trying to make the last three, or four, or 5 balls in 9 ball as opposed to starting at the one and not necessarily making the money ball?
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Aha! Good question.
 
pfduser said:
This is Joe Tucker's version.

Rack up some 10 ball. Break from anywhere. After the break, take ball in hand and run out, in rotation (1, 2, 3, etc...) All balls made on the break count. Any balls made on a scratch are spotted. Once you miss, the rack is over. You should shoot 10 racks and count the total balls made for each rack. After 10 racks, take your total and compare it to this chart:

30-35 D+
36-40 C
41-45 C+
46-50 B
51-55 B+
56-60 A
61-65 A+
66-70 A++
71-up Pro
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Wow, that's tough..10 ball rack! I've always considered myself B-, but under that system I think I'd be closer to c,c+. Shooting 10 balls randomly would counteract bad rolls with all those balls on the table. One extra ball makes a subtle difference.
 
My results

I just came back from doing this drill. i went 10 racks 9bal,l BIH after break counted balls during break. However i re-spotted the nine if it went in off the break, i gave my self one chance no safes, if i missed the ball game over, if i made a ball and scratched i did not count that ball and that rack was over.

My first set i went 41 balls, second set 48, third set 46, and fourth set 37. I gave my self one point for each ball and the nine made was one point.

So i guess for today i was playing High C low to mid B ? what do you guys think??????
 
Ok everyone, I wrote this thread and I can't believe all the questions that came up. First off, I wasn't aware of another rating system out there. I like using my grading system because I believe it is very accurate. There is no way you can consider yourself a pro level if you run 71 balls. 71-90 is to wide of a range to be considered a pro. I'm a mid range A player and the test proves that over and over again. I have had skill level 5's in the apa do this test and they usually are C players and sometimes a low B which is also correct. Also everyone must understand this is just a drill that is meant to keep you focused and to enjoy. I like to do two sets a day. I usually get in the mid 50's. I did this drill yesterday and got a 56 and a 58. The best I have ever done is a 62 twice. I do the drill on a 9ft table with simonis 860. Based on my scores, and ranking system that puts me at an A player status. Which is what all the regional tours rank me as. You can use my grading system or the other guys, doesn't matter. The main goal of this is not to find out how good of a player you are for bragging right etc... The goal is to help you focus during your practice session which in turn will make you mentally stronger in tournament and league play. It seems people like to alter the way the drill is used and that is fine, make up your own method that suits you etc... like I said the main goal here is to help everyone's practice sessions more productive.

Also, not sure if anyone is interested in this, but many of you have your own pool tables at home and may be interested in my other post about how to make a pool ball buffer easily and cheap. Check out the youtube link here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EjQ0pBjtYE
 
pfduser said:
This is Joe Tucker's version.

Rack up some 10 ball. Break from anywhere. After the break, take ball in hand and run out, in rotation (1, 2, 3, etc...) All balls made on the break count. Any balls made on a scratch are spotted. Once you miss, the rack is over. You should shoot 10 racks and count the total balls made for each rack. After 10 racks, take your total and compare it to this chart:

30-35 D+
36-40 C
41-45 C+
46-50 B
51-55 B+
56-60 A
61-65 A+
66-70 A++
71-up Pro
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i have joe tuckers guaranteed improvemnt book and dvd
in the book balls made on the break are spotted they do NOT count
combos ok
if you combo the 10 you keep going to clear the table
scratch on the break is minus 2
any scratch or miss ends that inning


pro=70+
short stop 60-69
A's 50-59
B's 40-49
C's 30-39
D's 20-29

below 20 try bowling:grin:(my 2 cents LOL just kidding)
 
Thanks for the information and it was a fun practice.
quick question here, if I score between 40~50, what's the APA skill level equivalent?:grin:



I miss alot said:
This is a nine ball drill that can give you feedback on your skill level based off your runout potential. I was told about this drill by a strong player named mr. Stevens out of va. The results are estimates I determined based off some different players skill levels participating in this drill.

Instructions.

Your going to do 10 racks of nine ball. Every ball you pocket is worth 1 point, including balls pocketed on the break.

After you break. Start with ball in hand. Run the balls out until you miss. Once you miss, the rack is over. If you pocket a ball and scratch then that ball does not count. Determine how many balls you pocketed and note that amount for that rack.

Continue that format for all 10 racks and add up your points for each rack to get your total combined score after all 10 racks.

Results. Are as follows and only give a general estimate on your skill level based off your runout power.

Out of a possible 90 points possible.

If you pocket 90 to 80 your a pro. 80 to 70 your a double a player. 70 to 55 your a single a player. 55 to 40 B Player. 40 to 30 C Player. 30 to 15 D player. 15 to 0 your easy money.

This is simply a fun drill to do and results are just estimates. Kinda like the ghost but with a twist.
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KoolKiller said:
Thanks for the information and it was a fun practice.
quick question here, if I score between 40~50, what's the APA skill level equivalent?:grin:
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For 9? I'd guess around 7, but I'd be willing to rate you as an 8 in a race. ;) I'm somewhere between a B and an Open, so I think that's about fair. I believe that those scores/ratings are as done on 9 ft'ers. If I place the same, we can go heads up. :thumbup:
 
wow, I checked out the rating comparison for APA and it states a B equals to APA sl 7. I'm currently rated as a sl5 in APA and I know myself for sure I'm no where even close to the sl7s I play with.

I'm guessing, #1, maybe I did the drill on an 8 ft table with 4.5in pocket so it was much easier to pocket balls; #2, i'm a good shot maker but weak on defensive plays and this drill is for offensive rating only.

anyway, very good information and I will do this again in a couple of months.

enjoy!



Banks said:
For 9? I'd guess around 7, but I'd be willing to rate you as an 8 in a race. ;) I'm somewhere between a B and an Open, so I think that's about fair. I believe that those scores/ratings are as done on 9 ft'ers. If I place the same, we can go heads up. :thumbup:
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How does 9 ball combo count? 1 point? or 9?
I did the drill and had 2 9-ball combos, but I respotted the 9 ball and continued to run the balls, but didn't count the 9 ball as a point.

My score was 64: 2,7,4,8,9,8,9,5,9,3.

Should have run out on rack 2, but had a freakish scratch on the side pocket with easy position.

The balls spread ok for the most part. Rack 1 and 10 was really tricky with balls tied up.
 
The way I was taught the 9 is worth 2 points. Even if you make it on a combo it counts as 2 points, and it stays down while you continue trying to run the rest in order.
 
Maniac said:
These rating tests frustrate the hell out of me. But then, I must be the unluckiest poolplayer in the world (one of the many reasons I won't gamble). I can't tell you how many times I've broke the balls and the lowest numbered ball on the table is tied-up with another ball (or two) and has no pocket in which to shoot at. Happens wa-a-a-ay to often for me to get an accurate rating. Screw it, I'll just call myself a D player and leave it at that.

Maniac (knows full well the damage a zero or a one score from a rack can do to ones rating)
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All of these also say to break, then take ball in hand and go from there..so having no shot after the break should not matter...
 
I think it should now be Olympic ten Ball with one point per ball.

Ball in hand after the break and one point per called shot (and anything that follows).

A standard match is a race to ten (frames).

It is easy to calculate handicaps.

Short matches (race to five) can also be used to calculate a handicap.

Handicaps are based on mid 80% of games played.

Handicap = (Number of points earned / total games played)/10

Handicaps based on one month of play would be stable.

While there is no defense I suspect that handicaps would be accurate in a "regular" ten ball match for people with at least a five handicap
 
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