Developing Expertise In Pool

[boogieman]

The greatest players in the world all play subconsciously using what they would call instinct, feel and/or touch. They understand the physics at such a high level it surpasses normal physics and geometry into a level that would be better described as Quantum Physics, and Cosmic/Sacred Geometry. This doesn't mean any regular laws are broken, after all, physics is the science of objects in motion. However, understanding the game at that level won't allow you to perform better, in many cases it will keep you at the same level your entire life.

The game of pocketbilliards at the highest level is perfect because the physical geometry is perfect, you have two squares that make a rectangular surface, the shots are angles, usually triangles and the balls are perfect spheres, the cue is a straight line. Understanding how to unlock this perfection is the challenge we all have if we want to attempt to master the game. This can't be done with "normal/logical" thinking, it's much too complex to "figure out," because the subconscious is much like a quantum computer, able to defy normal guidelines.

The way we all experience this at times is when we go "into the zone" and play by feel and instinct, allowing the perfection of the game flow through us......we have the experience of being connected to the game, like an artist or musician connect to their area of self expression.

I only have to create 8 angles to play pocket billiards at the highest level, this won't sound like enough when looking from a pure geometrical perspective, however, it's like sophisticated classical music which may have one theme and several variations on that theme.

Like I mentioned earlier, the human mind is incredibly sophisticated, so when I consciously align to any shot "center to center," or "center to edge" I am giving my subconscious a referential index to create the angle I need to create to make the shot. So, to answer your question, I do evaluate the angle, from the starting alignment position, then allow my instinct, to create the angle, and one more important factor is I FEEL the shot hit the pocket and watch what specific part it contacts Every Time. This completes the shot in your mind which is the reward your subconscious needs, if you don't do this it's like shooting a gun or bow and never seeing where the bullet or arrow lands.....this should be boring and unfruitful for your subconscious, yet many pool players do this routinely without ever realizing they are making a fatal error!

The Game is the Teacher

Very interesting read. Consistency comes from the limited alignments, yet we are to allow our subconscious to “riff” or bend the notes a little to make the music come alive.

I’m not going to attempt an elegant paragraph, but by playing only by feel and a pinpoint
aim on the OB, your subconscious has “infinite” aim points and strokes to deal with. By limiting yourself to say 4 aim points, you can focus on 1 aim and let the other 3 slip from your mind. Essentially you’ve eliminated 75% of “infinity on the OB” so good ol’ subconscious can do what it does best, without filtering through bad info along with the good. It really does make sense. There are infinite notes but some don’t sound good.

I’m sure once your onto the system, you can also eliminate many CB positions for many shots or leaves, so again you’re letting your subconscious do what it does best without having to sort through the muck.

Currently I’m the aim at a pinpoint guy then let my subconscious adapt to spin, throw, deflection, cloth speed, etc. I can see that going to a system that at first glance feels like it’s limiting my aim, is actually going to allow me to fine tune and get more out of my game. Dang it feels bad to not let my mind run undisciplined over infinity and back. I guess any bad habits feel that way. It feels bad to not go for that extra slice of pie, that extra hour of sleep, that extra day off from working out, that extra drink, etc. Running roughshod over infinity is a waste of focus. I can focus on essentially much less consciously and then subconsciously really nail it since the bandwidth is going towards the correct and not the everything.

 

[boogieman]

Related to which, I was told that one of the top 10 players from the late 60s-70s played quite well on acid.

And about peyote.... Lophophora williamsii is a very slow-growing species. Leave it alone. Echinopsis pachanoi, pictured here
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is obviously not a slow-growing species. It is forbidden to grow it as other than an ornamental plant, however, at least in the US.

A metaphor in here somewhere. Wonders of the universe protected by pricks.

 

[Imac007]

Now I know why your writing style stood out to me, you are well studied on linguistic patterns and how modalities influence our experiences, in this case pocket billiards.

I was 23 when I first read 'Frogs into Princes,' and 'The Stucture of Magic' by Bandler/Grinder. My main teacher was Jan Marszalek in Dallas, she was an amazing teacher, with skills at the time I considered magical. We spent a lot of time together, she definitely taught outside the box of regular NLP. She had spent a lot of time with Bandler, who was also an interesting, and eccentric character. I flew to Orlando Florida and studied hypnosis with him, which started to open up a world that I hadn't been aware enough to know existed!

My best friend, John Emerick, who wrote 'Be the Person you want to Be' introduced me to NLP, he has mental skills that are beyond incredible!

One day I told him I had read 'Patterns of the Hypnotic Techniques of Milton H Erickson, MD' which had two parts, and confessed the second book was over my head (I was still 23 at the time) - He laughed and said "you know those two books are actually taken from four, 600 page volumes?!?"

"you gotta be kidding me, who in their right mind would read 2400 pages on therapeutic hypnosis?"

He responded "I did!" - he explained he'd read them sitting under a palm tree in Hawaii where he had lived a number of years.

The rest is history - he now has a 8500 ft house in Honolulu and sold his last company for over 100 million.....he one he's operating now is worth even more......it's true, what the mind can conceive, our lives can achieve!

The Game is the Teacher

Just curious what you think of the Markova developments built on the early findings of Bandler/Grinder. It explains why and how the zone is different from one player to the next, yet find the commonality in the process, not the content. Addition is a process. It works the same way, independent of the numbers, a cornerstone of NLP modeling.

 

[CJ Wiley]

Just curious what you think of the Markova developments built on the early findings of Bandler/Grinder. It explains why and how the zone is different from one player to the next, yet find the commonality in the process, not the content. Addition is a process. It works the same way, independent of the numbers, a cornerstone of NLP modeling.

It's been awhile since I thought about NLP, although it's great memories of a turning point in my life - Bandler/Grinder were the perfect team since Bandler was a computer programmer/mathematician and Grinder was the master linguist. Anchoring the sensory processes to heighten my Feel/Touch was a wake up call for me, especially when I started using the Visual/Kinesthetic/Auditory in my pre-shot routine.

The natural way a human can enhance one sense or modality is to diminish one of the others.....obviously blind people will feel, hear, and even taste and smell at a higher level than a person with sight......same with deaf people, they will have enhanced eyesight, and of course their feel is exceptional to read braille.

Basically what I'm referring to with the pre-shot routine is to SEE the shot above the ball, so all the aiming, and cue ball planning is accomplished, then when my left hand contacts the table it's anchored to transition into the kinesthetic mode (feel and touch)......then when I look at the object ball, I pull the cue back, hesitate (like a pendulum) and feel the hit, the contact of the object ball, and see/hear/feel the ball hit the pocket. This completes the shot in my mind and the feedback alerts me to any calibration I may need to make on the next shot (only if I don't hit the precise part of the pocket that's intended).

Milton Erickson's wife actually created one of the most powerful self hypnotic techniques that I used and taught to students that needed a quick way to get in to "The Zone" and stop the inner chatter/diologue as much and as quickly as possible.....Pool teaches a lot for "just a game"!

The Game is the Teacher

 

[Imac007]

Milton Erickson's wife actually created one of the most powerful self hypnotic techniques that I used and taught to students that needed a quick way to get in to "The Zone" and stop the inner chatter/diologue as much and as quickly as possible.....Pool teaches a lot for "just a game"!

One of the areas I’ve consulted is communication. Those in sales wanted to know how you talk clients into buying. My answer was that you don’t, persuasion is an inside job. It’s what you tell yourself about what is going on that determines what you decide. We create our own context which gives things meaning. Stephen Wolinsky, a hypnotherapist, wrote a book Trances People Live. He became sensitized to when clients were in trance. One day a client showed up for an appointment and he noticed the client was already in trance. That was a pivotal day as he started noticing that most people were in trance states during the day. They simply transition between trance states.

Sometimes people get stuck in a dysfunctional state. Wolinsky discovered he didn’t need to help people get into trance to help them. The solution was helping get them unstuck from the ones that caused problems. The point is that all hypnosis is self hypnosis, in light of what Wolinsky found.

Creating contexts is how we get specific behaviors naturally. Each context is its own trance. Trances tend to play out subconsciously. The problem with dialogue involving your self, is it draws attention inward and away from the outward focus needed to perform. A context that generates a sharp yet quiet external focus is needed.

 

[Imac007]

I think the idea of extended self is great because it offers us a different perspective on what might be going on when we visit the zone. In another sense I think it is the flip side with “While it was true I usually played with one of a few sticks in my usual hall, I could adapt to any stick instantly.” being your version of becoming one with the cue, not having it become part of you. This is about you becoming one with the cue, not the cue becoming as one with you. The subtle difference is that you are adjusting to the cue line, the connected cue runs the show, utilizing what you bring to the party. It might seem that it’s just semantics but my personal experience is that there is a difference. When the self is in charge other factors emerge. The self has baggage. Past results, emotions, wanting to will the ball in the hole, and other control issues. Keep it simple is easier when experienced from the world of the cue and cue ball, than from the self.

I mentioned in another post about how I experienced that flat sense of my contact. This likely results from the only true instruction I ever received. I asked an older player how to aim. He took a pack of paper matches and placed them around the rails at 90° to the edge. Then he showed me the contact point on the object ball, that he said was the target. Then he had me try to hit the end of the paper match just peaking out over the rail edge. If I contacted the end, the match would be driven at the 90° angle off the rail. If I hit just in front of it the compressed cushion would let me hit the match but it would be turned by the sliding contact. The table was a snooker table and the edge of the cushion is flat, a squared target. The match ends represented the contact point on the object ball.

In math the way to calculate the area under a curve involves taking an infinite number of triangle areas and summing them. Despite the curve when the base Is tiny its a right angle triangle. The same with a rounded surface. Put two balls frozen to each other and look closely. The areas touching are basically infinitely small. The Freddy the Beard carbon paper test shows a flattening of the impacted contact point. The driven path is 90° to the rounded peak, a small virtually flat surface pushing into an increasingly flat contact are creating a 90° launch pad from which the object ball is propelled. That flat pad merges with and is part of the tangent line. For me these two perceptions combine to enhance a feeling of a somewhat flat contact being experienced from above enough to sense the ball front.

Of course the contact point is not usually dead in line with the cue. That is the first step in developing a 3D game connecting the front of the ball to various impact points. The front of the ball is never blocked by the rail. When the cue becomes one with the cue ball, conscious awareness moves to the front knowing what part needs to contact the object ball to send it on a particular path.

Beyond that consciousness expands in a linear fashion to include the object ball contact point. In full flow the ball seems to almost draw closer with a cognitive sense of being bigger. Spaces evaporate as the distance between the cue hand and the cue ball, then the space from cue ball to object ball and finally distance from the object ball to pocket, seem to shrink as the balls and pocket all grow bigger. Of course all this is part of a cognitive construction, a personal reality. It happens when we create an attention spotlight that fills with the bigness and finding small details that emerge when things become closer. Those spaces and other surroundings get pushed into peripheral awareness.

Welcome to the party CJ. Just wondering if any of what I’ve written here is resonating on your end?

Neuroscience has been looking at extended self especially useful with prosthetics. https://www.academia.edu/16722168/B...es_and_the_concept_of_a_cortical_body_matrix_
The fact that self is called a cortical body matrix here fits with the reality of it being a cognitive construction.

 

[boogieman]

Creating contexts is how we get specific behaviors naturally. Each context is its own trance. Trances tend to play out subconsciously. The problem with dialogue involving your self, is it draws attention inward and away from the outward focus needed to perform. A context that generates a sharp yet quiet external focus is needed.

How do you personally do this? What's the trick to getting this to happen? I've noticed if I get focused on inner dialog or trying to quiet it during a match, sometimes it works, but other times my playing ability suffers. Sometimes I'm successful at getting in a "zone" but other times I just lose interest in the game and my shot making suffers.

 

[straightline]

I struggle - actually I can't be bothered struggling but my biggest nemesis is apathy.

 

[Imac007]

How do you personally do this? What's the trick to getting this to happen? I've noticed if I get focused on inner dialog or trying to quiet it during a match, sometimes it works, but other times my playing ability suffers. Sometimes I'm successful at getting in a "zone" but other times I just lose interest in the game and my shot making suffers.

Every situation has the 6 W’s, who, what, when, where, why and hoW. The who, when and where are the context. The what, why and how, get you inside your head. The context constantly changes because history is part of when and constantly evolving. But history relates to the past and gets you into your head too. During execution your attention needs to be in the now, the present. This is what this whole set of posts has been about. Finding out what needs to be your consciousness to immerse you into a performance trance.

Take the Markova quiz and find out in what sense each of your levels of consciousness is dominant. Then find the sensory details that take you into the trance state. I’m AVK. Meaning my conscious level is auditory, my subconscious is visual and my kinesthetic (feeling) realm is the unconscious. While standing back from the shot I sense my straight stroke grip and body alignment. I start by aiming with my body in relation to the cue ball and target. With both hands together, on my cue, near my right hip I step forward moving my cue onto the aim line and my bridge slides forward under the in place aim/cue line. I sense a connection through the cue ball to the impact area. The visuals and feel of the front of the cue ball extend outwards to the object ball. As I focus on the object ball I need to become still so that the size of the ball seems to expand and details on the surface become clear.

If they don’t I get up and get close enough to the object ball so that the closeness makes the ball bigger and I now see the details including the contact point/pocket line. Then holding my gaze on the ball and details I get down, letting my body find the aim line again. The cue finds the line and the cue ball joins the cue as in a sense I become one with it, the cue ball and the gaze picture of the object ball. The visuals dominate my mind space while my unconscious feel now connects me to the reality of cue in a more liminal sense. Liminal meaning on the threshold of awareness. It’s sort of there, not peripheral and not really background but noticed if it wasn’t there. I would lose connection to the cue and shot line, if it wasn’t there.

The problem with this description process is that it breaks things into parts and it pulls each front and center into consciousness. The subconscious needs to assemble these parts into the chunk of the whole shot. As long as the aim line, cue, cue ball and target feel connected visually and/or physically.

If you need to have something auditory going on replace the dialogue. Adding a soundtrack conducive to the right tempo to occupy the auditory component will do it. The best type of music to use will have a section with a lull, where you need to pause. According to Thomas Blakeslee, in his book, The Right Brain, music is more right brained and so is physical activity like the stroke. The subconscious operates more at the alpha brain wave level and the right tempo music can help get you there.

Despite the fact that dialogue, external and internal are my normall everyday consciousness dominant mode, not everything operates on that level. You don’t feel hot or cold with sound. Dialogue doesn’t do the deed. Letting the rest of you operate without the interference of useless instruction or input requires simple respect for the body’s ability to organize and execute. Sometimes it just needs to pay attention, to watch and listen, to focus, in the present.

Fix your perspective, your context and the natural decisions will fix the rest.

Hope this helps answer your question.

 

[Imac007]

The natural way a human can enhance one sense or modality is to diminish one of the others.....obviously blind people will feel, hear, and even taste and smell at a higher level than a person with sight......same with deaf people, they will have enhanced eyesight, and of course their feel is exceptional to read braille.

This reminds me of an exercise I used to train players. My view at the time was that pool was a hand/eye skill. The idea of a dominant sensory mode from NLP meant it was likely that either the visual or the feel element was more developed. Usually players had a more developed visual sense than feel. My solution was to get the player in touch with the shot by lining up visually then closing their eyes after a preliminary stroke or two. Heightened sense of feel happens naturally when the visuals were gone.

I worked at a school for the deaf for a short time. I can attest to the fact that the students were very good at pool. The school provide two tables in a break area. The standard of play was quite high compared to a like group of similar aged students dropping into the local hall for a night of pool.

 

[boogieman]

Food for thought:

Remember the feeling you had when you first thought you were unbeatable in pool, yet someone stomped you as if you had never held a stick?
How does some one who is GOOD or a pro chase this feeling?

 

[Imac007]

Food for thought:

Remember the feeling you had when you first thought you were unbeatable in pool, yet someone stomped you as if you had never held a stick?
How does some one who is GOOD or a pro chase this feeling?

First, you are not a result. The mindset that Timothy Gallwey talks about in his inner tennis/golf etc books is that it is what it is, pure feedback, neither good nor bad. This applies regardless of skill level. The idea of being unbeatable is about making a judgement and assigning a feeling labeled as good or bad to that. But labels come with meanings attached. For example, arousal before a match might be judged as nervousness or anxiety. If instead you call it excitement and a necessary part of your body sharpening focus through adrenaline, your mindset changes. Assign a useful meaning, is the coping lesson. Asking questions like what do you need to do to improve your outcome, are appropriate?

 

[CJ Wiley]

First, you are not a result. The mindset that Timothy Gallwey talks about in his inner tennis/golf etc books is that it is what it is, pure feedback, neither good nor bad. This applies regardless of skill level. The idea of being unbeatable is about making a judgement and assigning a feeling labeled as good or bad to that. But labels come with meanings attached. For example, arousal before a match might be judged as nervousness or anxiety. If instead you call it excitement and a necessary part of your body sharpening focus through adrenaline, your mindset changes. Assign a useful meaning, is the coping lesson. Asking questions like what do you need to do to improve your outcome, are appropriate?

This, in Neuro Linguistic Programming would be called a Reframe. I've used this countless times, in many areas of my life.

A useful way to do this is with Anchoring, which can be used to take a situation that usually brings nervousness or anxiety and Reframe it to a state of confidence, good will and competitiveness - I've done this process and it definitely works because it forced me to do consciously and deliberately what would normally have to happen through regular life experiences (which could take years, and may never happen without a strong will to succeed).

 

[boogieman]

First, you are not a result. The mindset that Timothy Gallwey talks about in his inner tennis/golf etc books is that it is what it is, pure feedback, neither good nor bad. This applies regardless of skill level. The idea of being unbeatable is about making a judgement and assigning a feeling labeled as good or bad to that. But labels come with meanings attached. For example, arousal before a match might be judged as nervousness or anxiety. If instead you call it excitement and a necessary part of your body sharpening focus through adrenaline, your mindset changes. Assign a useful meaning, is the coping lesson. Asking questions like what do you need to do to improve your outcome, are appropriate?

That would be a more appropriate question. The feeling was that you knew you had to really buckle down and the feeling of excitement that you had a clear goal. Someone showed you the next level and you just had to get to that level. I guess I should work on making this feeling internal, especially now that I am a bit more seasoned than during my first winning streak. It wasn't the feeling of losing that was desirable, but the intense focus and desire to improve. Situations like the one I was talking about did indeed give me a huge desire to improve. Similarly, when you got to a level to provide that person with a real challenge, and eventually beating them gives a similar feeling. I guess you would call it chasing a new peak after being on a plateau for a bit.

I think part of it is just playing people who are better than you. I was more curious how someone who gets to a great level of playing stokes that level of desire. I know for most people the desire to play better is innate, but can this desire be stoked more? How do we condition or train ourselves to amp up this level of desire to win and improve even after we are a star in the local bar? I almost feel as if thinking about this instead of just doing it little by little is counterproductive, a mental block. If you have to dig a ditch, it's easy to sit and examine how we can get ourselves motivated to dig the ditch. It's better to remove that first scoop of dirt and get busy, the ditch isn't going to dig itself.

I know many people use gambling to do this, or want to be pissed off at their opponent, have to be the underdog, etc. To me, those methods work, but I'd like to be able to more easily strip off needing such outside scenarios/influences to have a burning desire to improve, and a burning desire to win. I'm going to look into NLP a bit more.

This, in Neuro Linguistic Programming would be called a Reframe. I've used this countless times, in many areas of my life.

A useful way to do this is with Anchoring, which can be used to take a situation that usually brings nervousness or anxiety and Reframe it to a state of confidence, good will and competitiveness - I've done this process and it definitely works because it forced me to do consciously and deliberately what would normally have to happen through regular life experiences (which could take years, and may never happen without a strong will to succeed).

I think you guys have sold me, I'm going to look more into this NLP thing. That is indeed what I desire, to get that state of confidence, good will and competitiveness.

I feel I'm at a point in my game where I can slowly keep improving, but I'm missing something. I'd like for this "something" to be internal and not have to be an outside crutch. It seems as if all the outside scenarios like winning the dough, can be internalized to some extent. Perhaps improving and developing expertise is the goal and sometimes you need multiple tools to do so. Doing so through pure will is one way, but the other outside scenarios can also be good tools. NLP seems like it will also be a useful tool. I'm going to look through the last few pages of the thread and check out some of the resources you guys are talking about.

 

[Imac007]

That would be a more appropriate question. The feeling was that you knew you had to really buckle down and the feeling of excitement that you had a clear goal. Someone showed you the next level and you just had to get to that level. I guess I should work on making this feeling internal, especially now that I am a bit more seasoned than during my first winning streak. It wasn't the feeling of losing that was desirable, but the intense focus and desire to improve. Situations like the one I was talking about did indeed give me a huge desire to improve. Similarly, when you got to a level to provide that person with a real challenge, and eventually beating them gives a similar feeling. I guess you would call it chasing a new peak after being on a plateau for a bit.

I think part of it is just playing people who are better than you. I was more curious how someone who gets to a great level of playing stokes that level of desire. I know for most people the desire to play better is innate, but can this desire be stoked more? How do we condition or train ourselves to amp up this level of desire to win and improve even after we are a star in the local bar? I almost feel as if thinking about this instead of just doing it little by little is counterproductive, a mental block. If you have to dig a ditch, it's easy to sit and examine how we can get ourselves motivated to dig the ditch. It's better to remove that first scoop of dirt and get busy, the ditch isn't going to dig itself.

I know many people use gambling to do this, or want to be pissed off at their opponent, have to be the underdog, etc. To me, those methods work, but I'd like to be able to more easily strip off needing such outside scenarios/influences to have a burning desire to improve, and a burning desire to win. I'm going to look into NLP a bit more.



I think you guys have sold me, I'm going to look more into this NLP thing. That is indeed what I desire, to get that state of confidence, good will and competitiveness.

I feel I'm at a point in my game where I can slowly keep improving, but I'm missing something. I'd like for this "something" to be internal and not have to be an outside crutch. It seems as if all the outside scenarios like winning the dough, can be internalized to some extent. Perhaps improving and developing expertise is the goal and sometimes you need multiple tools to do so. Doing so through pure will is one way, but the other outside scenarios can also be good tools. NLP seems like it will also be a useful tool. I'm going to look through the last few pages of the thread and check out some of the resources you guys are talking about.

Since NLP modeling can be applied to any area of performance, it’s best to narrow your search. Here are search results for sports. https://www.google.ca/search?q=neur...orts&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari

Addendum https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/...0F3B52E50F5C582B43B717C720EE99B7A23815B78E798

 

[Imac007]

That would be a more appropriate question. The feeling was that you knew you had to really buckle down and the feeling of excitement that you had a clear goal. Someone showed you the next level and you just had to get to that level. I guess I should work on making this feeling internal, especially now that I am a bit more seasoned than during my first winning streak. It wasn't the feeling of losing that was desirable, but the intense focus and desire to improve. Situations like the one I was talking about did indeed give me a huge desire to improve. Similarly, when you got to a level to provide that person with a real challenge, and eventually beating them gives a similar feeling. I guess you would call it chasing a new peak after being on a plateau for a bit.

I think part of it is just playing people who are better than you. I was more curious how someone who gets to a great level of playing stokes that level of desire. I know for most people the desire to play better is innate, but can this desire be stoked more? How do we condition or train ourselves to amp up this level of desire to win and improve even after we are a star in the local bar? I almost feel as if thinking about this instead of just doing it little by little is counterproductive, a mental block. If you have to dig a ditch, it's easy to sit and examine how we can get ourselves motivated to dig the ditch. It's better to remove that first scoop of dirt and get busy, the ditch isn't going to dig itself.

I know many people use gambling to do this, or want to be pissed off at their opponent, have to be the underdog, etc. To me, those methods work, but I'd like to be able to more easily strip off needing such outside scenarios/influences to have a burning desire to improve, and a burning desire to win. I'm going to look into NLP a bit more.



I think you guys have sold me, I'm going to look more into this NLP thing. That is indeed what I desire, to get that state of confidence, good will and competitiveness.

I feel I'm at a point in my game where I can slowly keep improving, but I'm missing something. I'd like for this "something" to be internal and not have to be an outside crutch. It seems as if all the outside scenarios like winning the dough, can be internalized to some extent. Perhaps improving and developing expertise is the goal and sometimes you need multiple tools to do so. Doing so through pure will is one way, but the other outside scenarios can also be good tools. NLP seems like it will also be a useful tool. I'm going to look through the last few pages of the thread and check out some of the resources you guys are talking about.

Go to page 10 of this thread. There is stuff there about the experience of NLP modeling describing the process of duplicating success in pool. Reading NLP books gives you access to the toolbox available. Which tools to use and in what order is what modeling is about. Much of that groundwork has been done for you and can be found in the pages of this thread. Taking those and fitting them to you allows you built on them not start over from the ground up. Reading the books will never be a wasted education. Simply reading the descriptions here has its own benefit if you feel that you understood what was written. We often know more than we think we know. Identifying with what is written means you accessed that experience in yourself, you lived it.

 

[ShootingArts]

I would appreciate it if you never read anything I write again and I'll definitely lead the way, this is the last post I'll ever read of yours and you are officially dead to me.

Apparently you are totally blinded to what I am writing anyway. Friends and people I don't know but have interesting posts write in your threads. Some of your posts are entertaining too. As long as these things are true I will give them at least a glance. One of the things about public forums, we can't dictate who reads what.

A busy week last week, no time to speak of for AZB. Rain and cold forecast for next week, I'll be here more if the satellite lets me be. I'll read and post as I please. You may reply or not, it makes little difference to me! I do have to say that while I have received a handful of death threats over my years on the Net, you are the first to proclaim me already dead. I predict I will rise from the dead or have a very busy afterlife.(grin)

Hu

 

[CJ Wiley]

Since NLP modeling can be applied to any area of performance, it’s best to narrow your search. Here are search results for sports. https://www.google.ca/search?q=neur...orts&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari

Addendum https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/...0F3B52E50F5C582B43B717C720EE99B7A23815B78E798

Go to page 10 of this thread. There is stuff there about the experience of NLP modeling describing the process of duplicating success in pool. Reading NLP books gives you access to the toolbox available. Which tools to use and in what order is what modeling is about. Much of that groundwork has been done for you and can be found in the pages of this thread. Taking those and fitting them to you allows you built on them not start over from the ground up. Reading the books will never be a wasted education. Simply reading the descriptions here has its own benefit if you feel that you understood what was written. We often know more than we think we know. Identifying with what is written means you accessed that experience in yourself, you lived it.

One of the best NLP anchoring I did was the "Stuck to Clear" process for solving any problem. Everyone goes through these steps at the unconscious level, first they are stuck, then they are confused, then missing something, then curious, then clear. Just being aware of this phenomenon is useful, just like going into the zone playing pool, few players seek to identify the process so it can be repeated consistently.

We did this anchoring process over and over one day in the classroom and from that point on not only could I identify what step I was on, it was obvious what step others were processing. This has been so beneficial, and taught me to stay in the curiosity mode in life as much as possible, one step away from clear, and although there are still things in life that are confusing, it's easy to shift gears and identify what's missing and focus until the answer is revealed.......it always is!

Another NLP teacher I spent a lot of time with is Tad James from Hawaii, he hosted an 8 day intensive course on the Kahuna natives in Hawaii. (Tad was known for his time line therapy expertise). We learned many of the mental techniques they used, some I'd classify as super natural.
I went to a mystical place with one of the locals called "jump rock," where I mixed some powerful NLP techniques with this rock where "all your wishes come true"(if you jump from the towering rock into the ocean).

Treating it like a game, I set goals that were impossible at the time, then, one thing led to another opening up the opportunity to achieve All the goals within a couple months. The potential of our minds is far greater than we've been led to believe, it's obvious that there's a great deal of roadblocks set up by "the powers that should not be" to keep the majority from ever realizing their maximum potential! NLP can be the key to unlock many doors of perception, recognition and utilization locked deep in the vault of the subconscious mind!

Another impressive study was put together by Jose Silva, a parapsychologist who developed the "Silva UltraMind ESP system" - I have stories that happened to me I rarely tell because it's outside the normal comprehension using forces that are unknown to modern science.

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[Imac007]

One of the best NLP anchoring I did was the "Stuck to Clear" process for solving any problem. Everyone goes through these steps at the unconscious level, first they are stuck, then they are confused, then missing something, then curious, then clear. Just being aware of this phenomenon is useful, just like going into the zone playing pool, few players seek to identify the process so it can be repeated consistently.

We did this anchoring process over and over one day in the classroom and from that point on not only could I identify what step I was on, it was obvious what step others were processing. This has been so beneficial, and taught me to stay in the curiosity mode in life as much as possible, one step away from clear, and although there are still things in life that are confusing, it's easy to shift gears and identify what's missing and focus until the answer is revealed.......it always is!

Another NLP teacher I spent a lot of time with is Tad James from Hawaii, he hosted an 8 day intensive course on the Kahuna natives in Hawaii. (Tad was known for his time line therapy expertise). We learned many of the mental techniques they used, some I'd classify as super natural.
I went to a mystical place with one of the locals called "jump rock," where I mixed some powerful NLP techniques with this rock where "all your wishes come true"(if you jump from the towering rock into the ocean).

Treating it like a game, I set goals that were impossible at the time, then, one thing led to another opening up the opportunity to achieve All the goals within a couple months. The potential of our minds is far greater than we've been led to believe, it's obvious that there's a great deal of roadblocks set up by "the powers that should not be" to keep the majority from ever realizing their maximum potential! NLP can be the key to unlock many doors of perception, recognition and utilization locked deep in the vault of the subconscious mind!

Another impressive study was put together by Jose Silva, a parapsychologist who developed the "Silva UltraMind ESP system" - I have stories that happened to me I rarely tell because it's outside the normal comprehension using forces that are unknown to modern science.

The Game is the Teacher

The Tad James insights are interesting. Of course time frame when shooting works best in the present. Being able to put mistakes aside or behind us helps keep us there. Andrew T. Austin with his metaphors of movement takes things to a new level. It seems more in line with modern embodied thought research.

I have the original Jose Silva Mind Contol Method book. I see the newer version has a psychiatrist addition where it was used as a hypnotherapy tool. I still use his use of the 15° eye lift to adjust alpha waves and the wavelength of the subconscious.

 

[CJ Wiley]

The Tad James insights are interesting. Of course time frame when shooting works best in the present. Being able to put mistakes aside or behind us helps keep us there. Andrew T. Austin with his metaphors of movement takes things to a new level. It seems more in line with modern embodied thought research.

I have the original Jose Silva Mind Contol Method book. I see the newer version has a psychiatrist addition where it was used as a hypnotherapy tool. I still use his use of the 15° eye lift to adjust alpha waves and the wavelength of the subconscious.

I went through the Silva Mind Control classes, being from Texas I was lucky, as a matter of fact Richard Bandler lived 8 houses down from the Naturalistic doctor that did Cell Therapy to me one summer (27 injections) - what made it even more "coincidental" is that Richard and the Doctor had a relationship with the same lady (I'm not sure if they were both married to her or not).

The Silva Mind Control was very helpful in my pool career AND restaurant/nighclub/billiard club businesses in many ways.

A funny story.......one day I was going to the Dallas/Ft Worth Airport with 10 minutes to spare and could NOT find my car keys. I looked everywhere I could think of and no keys.....now I had 3 minutes or would probably miss my flight and it was very important at the time.

I stopped by my pool table and did one of the Silva Mind Control visualizations to find missing things.....it seemed silly, finding my key was more important than doing .......suddenly I saw a small fuzz ball on the carpet, bent down, picked it up, went in the kitchen, stepped on the devise that raised the trash can lid and through the piece of fuzz in the trash.......then walked back towards the pool table.

I STOPPED dead in my tracks "why in the world did I just do that!?!".....then it hit me, I went back in the kitchen looked down at the bottom of the trash and there were my Keys! I had come in earlier, with groceries in my hand, and had put the keys in my dress shirt pocket.....then, multitasking had opened the trash, bent down and the keys had fallen out of my pocket into the trash without me noticing.

I'd still be looking for those keys lol - after that I started giving the Silva techniques I'd learned more respect and they helped me out of several tough situations......talking about NLP and Silva Mind Control is making me want to do a current review, it's been too long!!

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